Rellik
Member
Thanks for the answer.
I didn't want to risk my account or anything like that incase I was to buy a future Xbox like Scorpio.
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Xbox One Summer Update Preview (Cortana, new Game Library, Win10 app, more)
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Thanks for the answer.
I didn't want to risk my account or anything like that incase I was to buy a future Xbox like Scorpio.
Steelyuhas
Member
So, I assume the navigation/control UX simply isn't implemented for the new store yet...
Banderdash
Member
Cortana isn't available in Australia.
Went to file a feedback about it.
Feedback app crashes.
Went to file a feedback about it.
Feedback app crashes.
CoolZombie360
Member
How log does it take to change from pending to enrolled? I got the email a few days ago and changed to the latest Xbox one experience in the app but still no update :-(
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Cortana needs a bit of work. It's a coin flip if she thinks it's an Xbox command or if she thinks I want her to search the internet. I'm leaving feedback of course, but I'm starting to get annoyed every time she snaps Edge and shows me bing search results.
Thursday War
Banned
download speeds are ridiculously slow with this new update
and ea access doesn't work either which is annoying with the free play days going on right now even though in the patch notes it's allegedly fixed
and ea access doesn't work either which is annoying with the free play days going on right now even though in the patch notes it's allegedly fixed
infinit777
Member
Streaming to pc doesn't seem to be working for me anymore 
I may have to opt out for the sake of my livestreams...
I may have to opt out for the sake of my livestreams...
CoolZombie360
Member
This is exactly the same issue I have, strange :-(
PapaEmeritus
Member
So I just got an Xbox One again and I am in the preview program, have app downloaded, when is this update supposed to roll out for us?
link1201
Member
Were you able to "select Preview Latest Xbox One Experience."? If so see post above yours. If not it'll probably be a bit longer.
SlipperyMoose
Member
I actually don't like Cortana as much as the previous Xbox feature. It is longer to say 'Hey Cortana turn volume up" vs. "Xbox, volume up". It also takes longer to load because I believe it takes what I say, sends it to a server and then responds on my Xbox? Perhaps some basic commands could be local and others not? I have no idea how these type of things work but I just don't like the new setup despite Cortana being more versatile.
PapaEmeritus
Member
Oh I'll have to check, honestly I don't know. Is that in the preview app?
link1201
Member
Yes, under the registration tile.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
The store is wonky as fuck right now. The buy button can take quite a while to appear, or not appear at all for me. DLC frequently won't appear for me as well. :\
Fleshfeast
Member
You're right. Saying "hey Cortana" takes twice as long as saying "Xbox". This may not matter if you're doing something like inviting someone to a party, or launching a game, but when you're trying to pause video or take a screenshot, it's really noticeable. Cortana is also apparently taking longer for most commands than she should, but I have my doubts about how fast she'll be once it's fixed. I've too been wondering if these commands are being send out across the internet. If this is being done with basic system commands, then... wow.
Old setup:
"Xbox, take a screenshot" and the popup displays less than a second after I finish the last word.
Current setup:
"Hey Cortana, take a screenshot" and after a second or two you see her going through each word you just said, one at a time. After 5 seconds (I timed it, multiple times), the popup confirming the screenshot shows up. This is of course after a she gives me a Bing search for "Taken" a couple times.
The biggest issue I have with all of this is that I don't understand what the net gain is. Even if they get Cortana to work as fast as the old commands, you're still using a longer phrase for the same things. There were already commands in for a lot of the common things you might want Cortana for. If there was a need for more commands, why not just add more commands? Of course, I know what the answer probably is. People like the voice commands, but won't buy a Kinect. Cortana allows them to use their microphone. I feel like a built in microphone in the Xbox One S and Scorpio would have been a better solution though.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
The biggest gain is a reduction in false positives. It's way harder for the Xbox to mistakenly hear "Hey Cortana ..." than it is "Xbox". That said, I think the ideal situation is to support both trigger phrases, with an internal toggle. i.e. a setting like
Voice Command Key Phrase
"Hey Cortana"
"Xbox" (warning: false positives may be more common)
ValeYard
Member
The store is super broken for me now. It is related to the language settings. I now don't have language and region matching, as the update allows. However, when set like this, the Store app can't find games.
Other than that, Cortana is an absolute nightmare. So much slower than the old Kinect commands. I tried changing TV channels with her, and she kept on snapping a window with internet searches.
I hope they work the kinks out by Fall, but it seems there is still a lot of work to do.
Other than that, Cortana is an absolute nightmare. So much slower than the old Kinect commands. I tried changing TV channels with her, and she kept on snapping a window with internet searches.
I hope they work the kinks out by Fall, but it seems there is still a lot of work to do.
Ronzilla29
Member
Yes I couldnt buy or rent movies either or even watch that free Southbound movie that was free last weekend on X1 had to turn on the 360 to do so.
Some people weren't able to get 360 games I heard though but I was able to get Tekken Tag on the X1 just fine so it might just be hit or miss.
Alx
Member
It's not only about the number of commands or the reliability, but also user comfort. The point of Cortana is to support natural language, so that you feel more comfortable using regular sentences rather than key words. For example, I prefer by far saying "Hey Cortana, start my console" every morning than "Xbox on".
Of course it's mostly convenients for commands that don't need to be instantaneous, unlike "pause" or "take a snapshot". I think the best of both worlds would be to have both keyword-based commands for specific actions like those, and natural language for everything else (provided they fix the web search thing).
Fleshfeast
Member
Pegasus Actual
Member
"Hey Cortana" doesn't take twice as long to say as "Xbox", they're actually pretty close at least for me, in the 2/3 to 3/4 of a second range to get the trigger word/phrase out. The responsiveness right now though is pretty inconsistent at best. When the commands work though they work really well. "hey Cortana play rainbow six siege" is sooo much better than "Xbox, go to Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege" The party commands are also a ridiculous quality of life improvement.
Game DVR stuff needs a ton of work though. And I guess that goes for anything that needs to be decently responsive. I don't know if they have an answer there. If the Cortana servers are overwhelmed at times, and you can't trust it to record your clip within a second consistently, then you just can't use the command. It's so bad right now that I've actually learned and used the controller shortcut for "record that" for the first time ever.
Game DVR stuff needs a ton of work though. And I guess that goes for anything that needs to be decently responsive. I don't know if they have an answer there. If the Cortana servers are overwhelmed at times, and you can't trust it to record your clip within a second consistently, then you just can't use the command. It's so bad right now that I've actually learned and used the controller shortcut for "record that" for the first time ever.
velociraptor
Junior Member
The UI needs a complete overhaul. The current dashboard is so, so bad. The fact I can't get download speeds and an ETA on my downloads is also baffling. I'm kinda shocked at how bad the UI for the XBO is, especially after the 360 was ok.
Are you in the preview?
I wonder if there are running different builds because Cortana is working far better for me that the old system.
It was rocky (slow, sometimes opening browser instead of following commands) when I first tried, but I did a hard reboot, but false positives are non existent and it's much faster.
Speaking conversationally is much better than trying to remember commands.
One thing I wish they'd add is support for changing channels by saying the channel number...there are like 5 Disney channels, but only the main station gets positive hits.
Lol
It was rocky (slow, sometimes opening browser instead of following commands) when I first tried, but I did a hard reboot, but false positives are non existent and it's much faster.
Speaking conversationally is much better than trying to remember commands.
One thing I wish they'd add is support for changing channels by saying the channel number...there are like 5 Disney channels, but only the main station gets positive hits.
Lol
The Jackdog
Member
are...are you in preview?
velociraptor
Junior Member
No. How do I 'enter' the preview? Judging from the pics it doesn't appear to be any improvements in general navigation either.
rob305
Member
Google it. Just a heads up, the preview has exactly what youre asking for, download speeds and ETA. This was bugging me out so bad
Buying the Crew is Strange. It says I have multiple addresses on file and wants to update them. It shows my address twice, and a friend who logged in one, but deleted his gamertag, address twice as well.
Bought the Crew from app. Dashboard says owned but went download. And store page wants me to buy it again.
Bought the Crew from app. Dashboard says owned but went download. And store page wants me to buy it again.
SmokinGunZ1981
Member
Has anyone else had issues installing games from EA Access since the summer preview, I can play the games already installed but if I try to install a new one it just takes me to the store and the only option I seem to have is to purchase the game at full price?
Alx
Member
I don't know if it's because of the game or the OS update, but Xbox Fitness wouldn't let me access some programs I bought and even downloaded on my console (it did work yesterday). The P90x training appear as locked, and there's a message "marketplace unavailable" on the customization button. Bummer.
