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Xbox Scorpio reveal on Thursday at 2pm UK / 6am Pacific by Eurogamer/DF
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boneyjangles
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Pretty apt pic, the performance difference between Xbone and PS4 is probably close to the performance difference between the Pro and Scorpio, but reversed. In the real world... yeah, it's not going to be massive - 'a bit sharper'.
rokkerkory
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Timely repsonse by a junior.
Steverulez
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It's really bizarre if they don't show one new thing.
We've not seen Crackdown in 18 months, state of decay yet to get gameplay unveiling, and forza motorsport 7 turn10 run a great franchise and a game launches every year, they should be showing something new with it, and comparing it to the XB1/PC versions
We've not seen Crackdown in 18 months, state of decay yet to get gameplay unveiling, and forza motorsport 7 turn10 run a great franchise and a game launches every year, they should be showing something new with it, and comparing it to the XB1/PC versions
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
No they don't.
They don't care to convince you to buy a console. They want you to buy their software, use XBL, basically use their platform regardless of hardware.
The console is there for those people who prefer that.
oh my god
HighResTomato
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This is catered to the hard core crowd. E3 isn't far enough away to not just wait for then for games.
Way different, this is analysis with public just announced info
Just remember what Phil Spencer said (Quote):
"I call it a premium console because I want people to be clear that the customer we're building that for is the premium gaming customer," Spencer said. "The person who buys the majority of the games, the person who's playing the most games, spending the most hours, spending the most dollars. It's like our Elite controller. I call that a premium controller."
"I'm not trying to scare anybody on the price. We're going to come out on a price that we think is fair for the product that we build and the customers will tell us as they always do. I call it premium because I don't want people to get confused that somehow Scorpio is the thing that is going to take over the Xbox line."
It's not going to be small upgrade. They try to go for the real hardcore group who are willing to invest a lot of money on it.
Don't forget that the Elite controller is more then double the price of the normal controllers. With this in mind plus that DF will do the reveal, i think we can easily say it will have some high end specifications.
Oh and this:
Spencer added that he fully expects that Xbox One S, with its lower relative price point, will sell far better than Project Scorpio.
So, they don't expect the Scorpio to sell that much. They just try to make a high end premium console for gamers with a lot of money and see how it goes.
"I call it a premium console because I want people to be clear that the customer we're building that for is the premium gaming customer," Spencer said. "The person who buys the majority of the games, the person who's playing the most games, spending the most hours, spending the most dollars. It's like our Elite controller. I call that a premium controller."
"I'm not trying to scare anybody on the price. We're going to come out on a price that we think is fair for the product that we build and the customers will tell us as they always do. I call it premium because I don't want people to get confused that somehow Scorpio is the thing that is going to take over the Xbox line."
It's not going to be small upgrade. They try to go for the real hardcore group who are willing to invest a lot of money on it.
Don't forget that the Elite controller is more then double the price of the normal controllers. With this in mind plus that DF will do the reveal, i think we can easily say it will have some high end specifications.
Oh and this:
Spencer added that he fully expects that Xbox One S, with its lower relative price point, will sell far better than Project Scorpio.
So, they don't expect the Scorpio to sell that much. They just try to make a high end premium console for gamers with a lot of money and see how it goes.
Captain Zyrain
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All of this is propaganda.
There would be have been serious discussions about how, when and to whom to reveal the machine and in turn how that information will be shared.
In this case DF is the outlet, but that's not for our benefit or theirs - it's because there's been a decision at MS that this is the best thing to do for the company.
Just because its being talked about from an outlet that people here (including me) trust, doesn't stop it being propaganda.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Steve. They won't be showing games here. E3 is for that.
Or perhaps they are confident in their specs and want to use Digital Foundry because they are great at technical analysis. Stop looking at everything through the console warrior goggles, friend.
link1201
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The plot thickens...
You're running Windows, you're already part of their ecosystem. congrats?
rokkerkory
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You'd better be confident with final specs if you're going to mass produce and ship this 6 months later, of course this is final spec.
This is still propaganda through a reputable site
VincentMatts
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Are you actually reading what you are writing?
Wait, on Thursday if DF don't praise Scorpio, they'll all be back stating how fair they were.
This Thursday is going to be epic.
1) Zen, 12GB GDDR5 RAM, all the CUs, all the RUs, water cooling system, $399, 6.5TF, internal power brick, slightly bigger than Xbox One S.
2) Xbox One S price reduced to $250 permanently
3) Microsoft announces the purchase of three new 1st parties
4) Microsoft announces the creation of three new in-house 1st parties
5) Turn10, Playground, 343, and The Coalition all announce that they are working on new IPs
6) Sunset Overdrive 2, Ryse 2, Quantum Break 2, Alan Wake 2 announced
Fingers crossed for the main event.
1) Zen, 12GB GDDR5 RAM, all the CUs, all the RUs, water cooling system, $399, 6.5TF, internal power brick, slightly bigger than Xbox One S.
2) Xbox One S price reduced to $250 permanently
3) Microsoft announces the purchase of three new 1st parties
4) Microsoft announces the creation of three new in-house 1st parties
5) Turn10, Playground, 343, and The Coalition all announce that they are working on new IPs
6) Sunset Overdrive 2, Ryse 2, Quantum Break 2, Alan Wake 2 announced
Fingers crossed for the main event.
Fucking weirdos in this thread, lol.
Can't wait for Thursday and I love how this is all being planned out. Get the hardware stuff out of the way so it's all about games at E3. Hopefully I can be convinced, otherwise I'll stick to my PS4 Pro for the big third party experiences.
Can't wait for Thursday and I love how this is all being planned out. Get the hardware stuff out of the way so it's all about games at E3. Hopefully I can be convinced, otherwise I'll stick to my PS4 Pro for the big third party experiences.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
If Crackdown winds up being 4K/60 somehow I'll shit a chicken.
Don't forget the Twins sweeping the Royals.
I have a high end PC and will also be getting the Scorpio. A lot of games I prefer playing on console on my 4k TV.
wesleyshark
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SmartWaffles
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Oh man I can see a sad night ahead of you.
You figure Scorpio has to probably launch with at least a 2TB drive. At least that's how I imagine it if they're going to market it as a premium device. An Xbox One S 2TB console is already $399. I can imagine Scropio being $399. My bet is $499 with the upgraded internals. A 1TB drive for 4K native textures would fill up ridiculously fast and there's nothing premium about that. Xbox One X 2TB - $499
Sure
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
GarthVaderUK
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It's not E3
Steverulez
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I don't require more than one, but it's a pretty shitty way to show it if they don't. It's not like forza is a surprise to anyone, some big unknown, the announcements are sporadic and DF did already play it?
Should be there as a visual showcase, they can save whatever else they got for e3
wesleyshark
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Shil Pencer
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Crackdown 3 has been a "joke" for so long if they show off Scorpio on thursday and it blows minds that alone is a huge turnaround for xbox
'Orchestrated propaganda', or as it's often referred to in the business world, 'marketing and PR'.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
If we see games, it'll be already released games with their improvements being shown. That's it.
Halo 5, Gears 4, FH3. That's it. This is purely a tech thing. Not games.
NoctisVsStar
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Pass the joint
Oh hey, that game.
Steverulez
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Then that's really really stupid
The more that I take everything into consideration, I'm expecting a $499 or $599 price point. Based on MS comments as well as them getting Digital Foundry involved to make their case for them.
Brings back memories of "FIVE HUNDRED NINETY NINE US DOLLARS."
SlipperyMoose
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Suddenly I don't feel like going to work on Thursday. I feel like bumming around, watching news on Scorpio and playing Crackdown 1.
SEGAvangelist
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We really don't know for sure what it is. We could see a trailer release and tech breakdown of Forza Motorsport 7 at the same time.
Thats a Greay Area
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Compsiox
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You're right! We're getting Crackdown news!
Complicated
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Would love it if FH3 was the showcase. I've still got so much to do in that game despite it being one of my favorites last year.
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