Mr Moose
Member
It was very "balanced"
If Ghosts is 720p and NOT 60fps on Xbox One, I would be very surprised. (Then again...)
I think NBA2K14 has been confirmed @ 60(?)
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Xboxone Resolutiongate (Eurogamer)
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It was very "balanced"
If Ghosts is 720p and NOT 60fps on Xbox One, I would be very surprised. (Then again...)
I think NBA2K14 has been confirmed @ 60(?)
lucius
Member
I could almost also, but really should be $50-100 less than PS4 not $100 more considering the power difference, should have never made Kinect a main part of the system, maybe make a version without kinect next year, get cheaper as soon as possible.
FranXico
Member
Here you go.
WTF? Why is the technical analyst writing so many blog posts positive towards the least powerful console lately? Did RL ever write such dedicated articles about the PS3 starting to win over gamers last gen? Somebody please provide me with such links to persuade me away from his perceived double standards.
Wow. Amazing stuff. The technical analyst who made a name for himself of such cold hard pixel and frame counting, now wants to remind us all that it's all about the games!
(edited out harsh language).
Unknown Soldier
Member
You can't be serious. The only reason he is backtracking now is probably because his bosses at EG are finally starting to notice how badly DF is making their whole organization look. He was probably called into a meeting and told to cut his shit out or else.
Your buddies all play games on Xbox One? The system isn't yet available. It sounds like they are attached to Xbox 360 rather than Xbox One.
Primedoughnut
Banned
You know what I was gonna suggest that it's time to eat crow for all those people saying the consoles were equal, and we'd never tell the difference..
but you know what, I don't wanna, because I genuinely feel for them, as gamers it does us no favors when one of our toys just can't cut it (as well as the competition)...
If there's anything of good that has come out of this, is you can be bloody sure next time round MS won't go within a million miles of some esoteric memory configuration, and will just do a big pool of unified ram...
but you know what, I don't wanna, because I genuinely feel for them, as gamers it does us no favors when one of our toys just can't cut it (as well as the competition)...
If there's anything of good that has come out of this, is you can be bloody sure next time round MS won't go within a million miles of some esoteric memory configuration, and will just do a big pool of unified ram...
freefornow
Gold Member
So, Leadbetter is good now? He had all sorts of descriptive terms used against him no more than a day or two ago. I can't keep up with the judgments.
InvaderZimmer
Member
Resolution is important but it doesn't make you miss a jump or dodge like when the fps drops too low.
Confirmed 1080p 60fps XB1 games are I BELIEVE Forza 5 and NBA2K14.
Confirmed 1080p 60fps PS4 games are CoD Ghosts, Blacklight Retribution, Resogun, Tiny Brains, Flower, NBA2K14, DC Universe Online, Injustice is VERY likely, and there are most likely more that just haven't been mentioned yet.
Also, why would we not count Killzone? It is 1080p 60fps in multiplayer. Why would that not count? Don't try to introduce some kind of caveat for your list.
Lordwindowlicker
Member
This is a multiplatform, launch game. Why don't people just see how development for the two systems evolves in the coming months and years?
iJudged
Banned
They should just remove the damn thing and sell it separately, someone at MS is stuck on selling this shit period day 1 bundled for whatever reason.
SolidSnakex
Member
They'll be fine as long as they do what the site was designed to do, which is compare games. It should have very little of the writers personal opinion filtered in. Just facts and leave it at that. They should also try to move away from speculation articles. I'm surprised that they're even still doing that after the FFXIII debacle that Richard went through.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Leadbetter is always bad.
iJudged
Banned
You know what I mean, they're getting the xbone, smartarse.
HawksWinStanley
Member
Pixelgate has a better ring to it.
No, he's not good. He still spread hardware misinformation about PS4 not having a hardware scaler and using software to upconvert resolutions. Inexcusable for a site that is dedicated to providing unbiased hardware and game analysis.
Aaaand there we have it...
The real reason the reviews are saying almost no difference. People are being pressured in to putting the XB1 in a better light. Whether this is a monetary bribe, or threat in some way it now makes sense why reviews don't seem to be saying what you'd expect of the resolution and effect differences.
This is why the controlled review environments, and certain peoples opposition to it being imposed on them. The publishers are trying to control what information is being presented to the public.
Don't let this go lightly folks, or you will never be able to trust a review again.
Most people are saying it's a start. Which it is.
Just because people said before he was completely bonkers over his PS4 v. XBO articles, doesn't mean we therefore cannot acknowledge when an article suggests a change and still be consistent with our thoughts on him.
N° 2 : PS4's GPU is the one with the most potential
eddfromtheriver
Banned
Good on them for making this article... at least they have remnants of the balls they once had... lets see if they keep growing or shrink back down again.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Ikr? A solid impartial article from Richard? I feel conflicted.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Time and again this forum reaches the right conclusions long before the press admits to the same thing.
So much for "fun scalers" and all that tripe we have endured. Maybe now we can move on and stop arguing about system power. Sony won that fight. Its done. Time to move on.
So much for "fun scalers" and all that tripe we have endured. Maybe now we can move on and stop arguing about system power. Sony won that fight. Its done. Time to move on.
FranXico
Member
I wonder if political pressure was this strong/bad coming from Sony in the PS2 days...
I think he is trying to salvage his reputation, which has clear taken a massive hit as of late.
The point is, they have not yet purchased it. There's still time to jump ship, so to speak.
How can all your buddies play sports games on it if it's not even out yet? If you're just going to play third party sports games wouldn't it be better to all get the better (and cheaper) system? :/
So what can we take from this? Arthur Gies is either lying to everybody, lying to himself, or has vision problems. If other than the latter, I'm not sure how anybody can take him seriously.
No, he's still specifically writing in favor of MS by ignoring, or outright lying, he just isn't doing it to such an obnoxious degree, because he knows it's no longer possible to bullshit to that same degree. Still, that's a step in the right direction.
Teletraan1
Banned
Too easy to quote your avatar and explain the non binary nature of the world we live in.
Andvary
Member
Exactly, which would be silly not to.. since he practically mentioned just multiplatform games.
iJudged
Banned
Tried and failed lol. Most of them started gaming with the Xbox and want to stay with it. No matter how hard I try, it doesn't matter, Xbox Xbox Xbox.... It's weird, it is the only system they ever owned really, all 3 of them.
Ps... All they play is sports games and some cod here and there.
Steve McQueen
Member
They still were imo but GAF went nuts.
Madness. Ryse is showing how pretty a gaming machine the xbone can be, albeit at 900 pixels. I don't expect the bone to ever match, but it's still going to be decent. Both machines aren't as advanced as they could be compared to PC, although the PS4 gives great bang for buck. Xbone should have been $100 cheaper, even with Kinect.
At the very least though, it shows how much easier the PS4 is to develop for out of the gate for multiplats - whatever the reason. Time to triangle and all that. I'm just hoping this gen is fairly short and the next gen sticks to the PC-like architecture.
We have the % confusion here.
PS4 = 18 CU's
XB1 = 12 CU's
XB1 = 66.6..% PS4 CU count
PS4 = 150% XB1 Cu count
PS4:CoD = ~2mpixels
XB1:CoD = ~1mpixels
XB1:CoD = 50% PS4:CoD
PS4:CoD = 200% XB1:CoD
So while there is a 50% CU difference there is a 100% more pixels being pushed suggesting reasons other than pure GPU count. I'd hazard a guess and say that the XB1 is bandwidth capped because usage of the eSRAM is subpar. ROP and TMU difference may also mean something.
LukasTaves
Member
This is a little alarming... They should be able to use more than 32MB on xbone with less impact on development and performance than on 360... Why are they not able to?
It's a sentence to bolster his other article where he was arguing that 900p is just as good as 1080p.
eSRAM is expensive.
Then tell them to stop being pathetic fanboys. Their ignorance shouldn't impact your enjoyment of gaming. If they want to pay more for inferior ports, let them.
Unintentionally or not, what occurred with their comparison videos was concerning. They convinced many people that XB1 has the better graphics, people who are going to be making a $500 purchase with faulty information. I'm glad they are trying to rectifying this by making it clear this isn't the case.
Edit: Or rather, I'm glad Richard Leadbetter is at any rate.
Being a ticker architecture, the X1 may have more room to grow as its launch titles will use the system less effectively. BF4 has more pixels, better effects and higher framerate on the PS4, but perhaps BF5 will "only" have a framerate and resolution advantage.
My current prediction is that the X1 will sell well to start with but have a sharp drop off next year. But if MS can get the price down enough it might become competitive.
A kinect-less x1 at $299,95 would be tempting.
And would massively increase the already huge die size.