Don't even joke about this.
I hope it's just a vocal dumb minority rather than the state of gamers have been acclimatized to learning how to play games.
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"y cant metroid crawl?" first time (Miiverse) players cry for help in Super Metroid
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Don't even joke about this.
I hope it's just a vocal dumb minority rather than the state of gamers have been acclimatized to learning how to play games.
Meh, I can't feel sad for this, is just videogames, I don't care if back then games were harder than today, people play them for fun. If I really wanted to do something that tested my skills I would had done tons of other things
At least that's why I will always hate people that mock others for needing help in videogames, if these were I don't know, an school or college exam I could understand, but anything else, it seems childish to point things out, well people had different priorities
Still, I'm glad to had played metroid in a younger age, it was cool to discover the puzzles, and the atmosphere of that game is superb, is really a game that will never be duplicated.
I found funny the questions, but in a good way, I actuall found awesome that in the future you can actually ask question within the console and that a community could help you
At least that's why I will always hate people that mock others for needing help in videogames, if these were I don't know, an school or college exam I could understand, but anything else, it seems childish to point things out, well people had different priorities
Still, I'm glad to had played metroid in a younger age, it was cool to discover the puzzles, and the atmosphere of that game is superb, is really a game that will never be duplicated.
I found funny the questions, but in a good way, I actuall found awesome that in the future you can actually ask question within the console and that a community could help you
EatChildren
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Master, I have detected an anomaly in the environment. Master, in front of you. I have calculated that the ceiling is too low, and you will not be able to progress further without the appropriate upgrade. I suggest heading back, and searching unexplored areas. Master.
Hot Coldman
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You are not authorised to use the morph ball!
...until you go through this 5 minute tutorial section teaching you how to use it, that is!
It's not about asking for help. It's about what they're asking for help on.
But Skyward Sword didn't have forced tutorials...
Isn't this exactly WHY Nintendo made MiiVerse in the first place?
Nintendo seems to think the best way for players to figure out how to get through a game's learning curve is community interaction. The first Zelda was designed around this back in the NES era, and friends probably shared tons of secrets for Mario and Super Metroid back in the day. Nintendo has basically just built their own online network for doing this accessible right on the console. This is just MiiVerse working as intended so that new players might even be able to beat difficult old school games. It'd be a miracle if this system actually influenced next-gen game design.
Nintendo seems to think the best way for players to figure out how to get through a game's learning curve is community interaction. The first Zelda was designed around this back in the NES era, and friends probably shared tons of secrets for Mario and Super Metroid back in the day. Nintendo has basically just built their own online network for doing this accessible right on the console. This is just MiiVerse working as intended so that new players might even be able to beat difficult old school games. It'd be a miracle if this system actually influenced next-gen game design.
thekonamicode
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I don't even know what to say about this ...
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Hot Coldman
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That wasn't a commentary on Skyward Sword. Probably should have quoted Salsa's post.
Pop-O-Matic
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I remember seeing some of the kids of my mom's relatives being unable to advance in Kirby levels because they didn't know to press up to enter the doorways. Said kids also weren't potty trained even though they were 8 or something and had to take a shit behind my car. Make of that what you will.
Jontron's last name is Jafari, so I have no idea where you got that A from.
Jontron's last name is Jafari, so I have no idea where you got that A from.
Super Metroid constantly tells you how to play, just not with text or long cutscenes. That's how good game design should work, that's all.
People are being dicks, though
Most people don't like to be led around by the nose.
Dark Ninja
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Wait till they get to the
glass tube you have to blow up with the power bomb
I always thought that the whole wiki online community for dark souls and demons souls went against the developers intentions of figuring out the game for yourself and using the multiplayer without voice chat to your advantage. So no, that sounds awful.
As for the thread, I am not surprised considering how I assume a lot of people just look up guides when they get stuck for more than ten seconds. At least that is what I have noticed with my younger family members and friends family members.
MrCookiepants
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Miiverse is honestly the only reason I'd want a Wii U right now.
Wishmaster92
Member
lmao welcome to classic gaming, no turtorials.
VeryGooster
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how do i shot ice beam
MisterHero
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Guys Super Street Fighter II is really hard and one grab kills half my life
guys
guys
VGChampion
Member
Besides the game pad it's my favorite thing. Other systems seriously need something like it.
AlimNassor
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"Nothing I can do. The game is obviously bugged. Whatever dude, great game developers hahaha"!
You're doing it wrong, you're suppose beat the shit outta them, not whine.
nailbombxx
Member
This is adorable.
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
I remember getting stuck in Super Metroid too once you get the morph ball I didn't know wtf to do.
I was 6 at the time.
Yikes! Is this what gaming has come to? Such that mere concept of a game that leaves discovery to the player has no existence in the gaming experience of today's gamers? What will gaming be like when the last of the (currently) old-school gamer dies out? Will stories of such intimate and engaging game design be but myths, with no-one to adequately convey what gaming was like before hand-holding?
Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhh! What a horrible future!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhh! What a horrible future!
I think that how they did the questions was dumb.
It will look less stupid if for example they asked where you could find the bombs, or with which kind of weapon you could open a door.
Lord_Byron28
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But isn't this the point of the Miiverse? Post where you are stuck and have the community help you. Nintendo might think its an acceptable pass for tutorials.
Super Mario World was literally "My First Video Game" for thousands of people. So bizarre.
MisterHero
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I eventually beat the game from continuing, and have a high score of <3000000 points
All the experts don't have high scores like that.
Jawmuncher
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Ill admit I get stuck in plenty of old games. But geez o'man you'd never see me cave like that.
Have none of these people ever thought to look at a guide, watch a video, or you know just keep playing and find out what to do on their own?
Really does sum up why we have game design the way we do now. Not saying everything needs to be convoluted and not explained but a better balance definitely needs to be found.
Last bit Miiverse was technically maid so people could ask for help and the like so....you reap what you sow I guess.
Have none of these people ever thought to look at a guide, watch a video, or you know just keep playing and find out what to do on their own?
Really does sum up why we have game design the way we do now. Not saying everything needs to be convoluted and not explained but a better balance definitely needs to be found.
Last bit Miiverse was technically maid so people could ask for help and the like so....you reap what you sow I guess.
Why have I never before in my life played Super Metroid?
In fact, I've never even felt bad about having never played it until this thread. I even own the SNES cart.
I should do that, I haven't felt so ashamed in such a long time. Not sure why it took 9 years for me to suddenly realize "Oh, Super Metroid should probably be a video game that I can say I've completed", though. It's not like I didn't know many people consider it to be the best game of all time.
In fact, I've never even felt bad about having never played it until this thread. I even own the SNES cart.
I should do that, I haven't felt so ashamed in such a long time. Not sure why it took 9 years for me to suddenly realize "Oh, Super Metroid should probably be a video game that I can say I've completed", though. It's not like I didn't know many people consider it to be the best game of all time.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Many people here seem to have forgotten that when Super Metroid was originally released, Nintendo operated an actual telephone hint line for kids (and adults) who couldn't figure out how to proceed in a game.
So... there have always been people who have very basic trouble figuring things out. It was around the beginning of the SNES era that Nintendo began experimenting with various in-game tutorials too. In fact, they may have been one of the pioneers of it.
Don't get me wrong - these posts on Miiverse are hilarious. They're also proof of concept that people are using Miiverse for what Nintendo intended, lol.
Edit: plus I wonder how many of these people aren't reading the digital manuals to the game precisely because they've been conditioned to expect blatantly obvious in-game tutorials. Who reads manuals these days? In fact, games don't come WITH manuals anymore. Back in the day Nintendo manuals actually explained quite a lot about in-game mechanics and strategies.
So... there have always been people who have very basic trouble figuring things out. It was around the beginning of the SNES era that Nintendo began experimenting with various in-game tutorials too. In fact, they may have been one of the pioneers of it.
Don't get me wrong - these posts on Miiverse are hilarious. They're also proof of concept that people are using Miiverse for what Nintendo intended, lol.
Edit: plus I wonder how many of these people aren't reading the digital manuals to the game precisely because they've been conditioned to expect blatantly obvious in-game tutorials. Who reads manuals these days? In fact, games don't come WITH manuals anymore. Back in the day Nintendo manuals actually explained quite a lot about in-game mechanics and strategies.
Lol this thread.
Remember when all you got as help when gaming were just a few random tips on a monthly magazine and the game's manual?
and of course, ^^THIS^^
Remember when all you got as help when gaming were just a few random tips on a monthly magazine and the game's manual?
and of course, ^^THIS^^
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