Fortunately for us, those reasons (yes, there's more than one actually) have nothing to do with it being Shenmue.
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Yu Suzuki and Mark Cerny talk Shenmue III strategy?!
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Fortunately for us, those reasons (yes, there's more than one actually) have nothing to do with it being Shenmue.
startyourengine
Member
whats Cerny's position at sony again? i don't think he would be the guy in position to talk to anybody about game deals anyway, am i right in that assumption?
Here's a dream scenario.
Cerny: Hey I'm a huge fan of your games, especially Shenmue.
Suzuki: What game?...ah yes Shenmue, now I remember.
Cerny: Umm.....well I just want to say that I have a lot of connections with Sony, and if you wanted to, we could help make Shenmue 3 happen!
Suzuki: Hmm I don't know, I'm not really a fan of your work on Gear Of War.
Cerny: Ummm...that was Cliffy B, I'm Mark, didn't I tell you?
Suzuki: Oh sorry, you all look the same to me. Well OK then, it's a deal!
Cerny: FUCK YEAH! Now GAF will WORSHIP ME!! Muahahhahahhaaa MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Suzuki: .....What's a gaf?
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Yes please!!! I still have Shenmue at the back of my mind every time I watch an E3 conference live.
Can Crusher
Banned
If sony did this...
Ugh, do you have shares on Sony or something? Just enjoy the ride man. Who cares if it would "help Sony", it would help Shenmue fans and that's what matters.
Ugh, do you have shares on Sony or something? Just enjoy the ride man. Who cares if it would "help Sony", it would help Shenmue fans and that's what matters.
He's done a bit of everything, and I think in particular he's skilled at working with Japanese developers and has done so in the past. He worked with Sega in the past on Sonic the Hedgehog 2, so he probably already knows Suzuki.
"He is a diversely accomplished game designer, producer, programmer and technologist, fluent in Japanese and one of the foremost Western experts on the Japanese game market."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cerny
Acquiescence
Member
Cerny doesn't care about Gaf adoration - he's bigger than that.
I have Shenmue the back of my mind EVERY E3. Never give up the hope.
I actually believe that Shenmue III will eventually happen, one way or another.
Whether it's going to be an expensive, Hollywood-like, blockbuster or a lower-budget production, it's irrelevant to me.
And, yes, the Guilin part of Shenmue II was amazing
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
WHATS GOING ON IN HERE?!?!
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It depends, Shenmue had widespread acceptance from DC users back when it was released. Shenmue sold over 1 million copies (1.7, was it?), 10.6 million DCs were sold during it's lifetime. That's a pretty impressive ratio. The sequel didn't fare so well, but there's a bunch of reasons for that too. None of them have to do with the quality of the game or no interest from users either.
When or how people came up with this notion that Shenmue doesn't generate interest or is a niche title is beyond me. Yakuza is far more niche than Shenmue ever was.
eso76
Member
avatar quote.
But wait, what's going on in here ?
I didn't pay attention to any of this thinking it was the usual monthly Shenmue 3 rumor, but is there some truth to this ?
WHAT IS GOING ON.
"FOR REALS" ???
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Same. I've always said it will happen, it's just a matter of when. I'm sticking to that.
ArisenDragon
Member
Mark Cerny is the man hope he gets it done somehow.
immortal-joe
Member
Thread should have been locked out of mercy, God DAMN you guys love to hurt yourselves.
indigo-cyclops
Member
I guess I forgot that niche titles were a thing and can be successful. You advocate traditionalism and the downfall of the modern game industry yet are disingenuous to some projects that could possibly stray away from that model. Yes, Sony should invest in an exclusive GTA port; I wonder how much that would run them? Rockstar makes good money on multiplatform GTA. Who's to say Sony hasn't tried?
The Shenmue naysayers are a funny bunch. However I'm not delusional, and will only believe it when I "see it".
Do not underestimate the power of sheltered internet boards, I mean do you remember that KAZ GIF thread?
If he were to do a kickstarter I'm sure NeoGAF and other places could spread the hype and get people backing it, some people will probably back it twice haha.
AstroNut325
Member
Please Sony, Cerny do NOT do this. The games are terrible and they will sell like sh!t. If you must moneyhat a project look to your first and second party studios or Rockstar.
Can Crusher
Banned
Derrick just likes to hate.
startyourengine
Member
so i think he was there to take the picture because of his past relation with Suzuki at SEGA. making a deal for Shenmue? unlikely.
Damon Bennet
Member
Night_Trekker
Member
People who never stop using this line to slam popular, older games they dislike need to be bitch-slapped.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
**grinds teeth** Get out!
I'm all for niche titles as important exclusives. Not for 70, 80, 90+ million dollars though. It would have to be 20 million or less to make sense for Sony to fund something that has extremely little chance of selling enough to justify it.
I think we all accept this as fact.
I swear, I'm gonna shoot my brains out if you people keep spreading this nonsense.
Have you even played Shenmue?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
ArisenDragon
Member
Refreshment.01
Member
So im buying a console? D@mn it...
Sony so far is making all the right moves or at least doing a good job faking it.
Sony so far is making all the right moves or at least doing a good job faking it.
You're right, he's not. There are dedicated people at SCE who handle that. This was probably just a friendly encounter since they know each other. However, SCE has been talking with Sega about exclusive games for over a year now. They have 2 games in the works currently for PS4.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
So...is this news going to simply come and pass and then we hear absolutely nothing of it? That can't happen! : /
Someone needs to get in touch with Cerny and interview him to see whats really up with all of this.
Someone needs to get in touch with Cerny and interview him to see whats really up with all of this.
Bucket-o-roadkill
Member
1st class trolling, impressive.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
The hype train just does not stop does it?
So he can tell you that he met Yu to catch up? Boy, someone is in a hurry to get heartbroken.
Why would Sony need to money-hat their own studios?
indigo-cyclops
Member
As mentioned it sold a good amount; even 70-90 million is nothing compared to what I imagine a money hat of GTA would cost them. No thanks, Rockstar does just fine for both systems. I could say with as much certainty as you that it would sell enough to justify the investment.
startyourengine
Member
I had no idea...
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Pfft, nothing to be excited about just yet buddy.
OMFG! CHOO MOTHER F'n CHOOOOOOOOOOO!
AstroNut325
Member
I'm not trolling. I really did not enjoy the Shenmue games. I own a dreamcast and the first Xbox. Neither game is fun nor interesting to me. The series just needs to get a book released for the story. The games were terrible.
Can Crusher
Banned
Dude Deus Ex 1 sold little over a million copies. Just like Shenmue.
What's the other? Yakuza 6 and what?
I tried replaying Shenmue fairly recently. It... has not aged well.
- The English VA is just terrible. Almost Chaos Wars bad.
- The translation is pretty bad, too. Awkward sentences, honorifics everywhere.
The good news is that the core gameplay, presentation, and setting still work really well.
My main point is that a basic "Crank up the output rendering resolution" HD remaster isn't going to address the game's biggest flaws. Re-recording the dialogue with competent voice staff and an overhauled script would go a long way, and that's deep into "remake" territory.
- The English VA is just terrible. Almost Chaos Wars bad.
- The translation is pretty bad, too. Awkward sentences, honorifics everywhere.
The good news is that the core gameplay, presentation, and setting still work really well.
My main point is that a basic "Crank up the output rendering resolution" HD remaster isn't going to address the game's biggest flaws. Re-recording the dialogue with competent voice staff and an overhauled script would go a long way, and that's deep into "remake" territory.
FullMetalx117
Member
I'd rather have them make a sequel to Valkyria Chronicles for PS4.
Why people still use 70-80 mln for Shenmue ?
@ GDC 2011 Yu Suzuki and Cerny did talk about that subject and Yu Suzuki said that it was actually 40mln not 70mln. Still a lot of money.
Right now creating Shenmue would be a lot cheaper since there is a lot of technology that would reduce cost. Even in Shenmue 1 they used house interior generators something back then super hightech,
Night_Trekker
Member
Once again...
People change as they age. Games don't. Your expectations change and your memory can betray you, but that's not the game's fault.
The voice acting and translation were laughable shit in the original games. It didn't stop people from loving the games back then or now.
And there's no way we're getting a re-recording of all the dialogue in the game or a re-translation. For fuck's sake, they won't even throw the games up for purchase on a DD service.