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[AniHawk]

Ruling out kickstarter is unwise IMO. Hopefully he changes his mind.

i think kickstarter could work with a us localization team bearing some of the responsibility (and doing some of the marketing).

 

[Volcynika]

Why can't he get with a niche western publisher?

Niche western pubs can fund localizations (change text/files/etc), not straight up game development, as mentioned above.

 

[FlyingSaucer]

ZE3 exclusive for PS Vita, do it Sony !

 

[MavFan619]

This makes me sad, I hope it happens sooner than later by some miracle.

 

[Tucah]

You can't do this to me after the ending of VLR. I need a sequel. NEED.

 

[Isotope]

They should quick port 999 to 3DS and Vita too to raise capital. I thought VLR did well on both in the west?

They could easily port it to the 3DS, but for it to work with the Vita, they'd have to change something with how the game plays, as 999 relies on the two screens. The iOS port works since they got rid of the puzzles all together, as it's now strictly a Visual Novel.

Something like playing the game while holding the Vita vertically?

 

[SteveWinwood]

no

not like this

no

i cant

no

I'm not even the biggest fan of these things, but I still wanna know how it all ends.

 

[wrowa]

I think by "not persuasive enough," he doesn't mean that they can't convince anyone to give money. He says the game is really expensive to make earlier on, so I think he means they can't convince enough people to give enough money.

This is probably not a $300,000 or $900,000 project. This is probably over two million and very few kickstarters get there.

It doesn't even necessarily need to be that. If you cut fluff like voice acting and scale down the presentation, I'm sure that it's possible to make a third game with a resonably low budget. Visual Novels are normally made with a paper-think budget and I doubt that ZE would impossible to realize for a million. However, if they kickstart it, they need to work together with Aksys. After all, they need to provide an English version as a reward, since hardy anyone would back without the prospect of getting the game in a language he or she understands. That alone would raise the costs by quite a bit.

However, it wouldn't surprise me if this is first and foremost an opportunity cost thing. It's not like the team can't find new work, it's that the managers want them to pursue something different. This is not necessarily something a kickstarter would be able to change.

 

[cardinalmind]

I wouldn't even sell my copy of the game on the Internet to prevent cheap-asses to get it. I always say to them that they should buy the game. Sad the game will now end in a cliffhanger just like some game based in Hong Kong (You know what).

 

[The Silver]

ZE3 exclusive for PS Vita, do it Sony !

stop trying to force me to buy a Vita

 

[BlackLagoon]

I think the best way to handle it is a combination of a kickstarter for partial funding (let's say $100k) to show intent and for Aksys to invest in development of the game for a better publishing deal. Though this assumes Aksys has that kind of money and I am not sure they do.

Niche western pubs can fund localizations (change text/files/etc), not straight up game development, as mentioned above.

Aksys are actually already involved in original game development - they're co-producing a Japanese action RPG called Magus which is out for the PS3 later this month.

 

[Fey]

Nngnnnggnn I was hoping an announcement for ZE3 would happen at some point in 2014

VLR is literally just a set up for a 3rd game this makes me so sad aaaaaaarg

 

[Mookie1515]

Spoiler

Chunsoft has chosen to BETRAY.

 

[∀ Narayan]

Kickstart this shit ASAP. Boy needs to change his tune on this. I will throw money at it instantly.

 

[badgenome]

Devastated...

 

[RyoonZ]

Well at least he says he'll do his best to make it happen.
Unlike Suikoden VI, Wild Arms VI or Breath of Fire VI... oh wait never mind the last one.

 

[jkanownik]

If I was them I would switch it to a digital only episodic format. The risk profile and P&L would be much more appealing to management. I'm assuming the creative challenge created by that model isn't too difficult to overcome.

I'm not familiar with the exact mechanics of the games myself. Would they work with a controller? That would make console XBL/PSN version possible.

 

[eliza0224]

Fucking bullshit. I need this ;-;

 

[Burnburn]

I don't know how stuff like this usually goes, but I would figure SpikeChunsoft won't be happy with this btw. I also think this is some sort of last attempt to show to Spike that there is a very dedicated following to the game.

Edit: If you message him on facebook, does it appear on your wall? I kind off don't want my love of this man to be shown to all my friends :x

 

[Marcus]

this is quite possibly the worse gaming news ive heard in a few years.

if this game never gets released, i will commit sudoku

 

[Thores]

Nooooooooo!

I really, REALLY hope he reconsiders a Kickstarter. I would back that so quickly, heads would spin in the past and the future simultaneously.

 

[Lunar15]

God, thanks world.

 

[wrowa]

If I was them I would switch it to a digital only episodic format. The risk profile and P&L would be much more appealing to management. I'm assuming the creative challenge created by that model isn't too difficult to overcome.

I'm not familiar with the exact mechanics of the games myself. Would they work with a controller? That would make console XBL/PSN version possible.

An episodic format wouldn't fit the structure of the series at all. The huge draw is the completely non-linear progression of the story and that wouldn't work if they had to force the game to fit in an episodic format.

 

[fardeenah]

let's kicstart this thing.sony would be wise to get an exclusive on this one

 

[Ninjimbo]

Yeah, it's unfortunate that one of the only games with a good story is pretty much ignored by the everyone. The curse of being on handhelds strikes again.

Meanwhile, clichéd dreck like Walking Dead and Last of Us get called the Citizen Kanes of video games. What a farce.

 

[The Silver]

But man I haven't been this legitimately upset about gaming news since the first DmC trailer.

 

[Volcynika]

Aksys are actually already involved in original game development - they're co-producing a Japanese action RPG called Magus which is out for the PS3 later this month.

Yeah I know, but I'm betting they probably don't have the ability to just drop money like that without lots of planning/budgeting/etc.

 

[Capell]

Oh boy, these are really sad news.

I wonder how much money they would actually need for this to get funded by kickstarter, especially since they could place money heavy tasks like voice acting as stretch goals.

 

[Shiina]

The first two games must have sold abysmally if they can't even get funding for an ADV game.

 

[Jisgsaw]

Given the """end""" of ZE2, I thought they already planned and funded the sequel, you can't just not finish this thing :-(

 

[Venfayth]

Given the """end""" of ZE2, I thought they already planned and funded the sequel, you can't just not finish this thing :-(

Planned, sure.

 

[CronoShot]

Kickstart that shit. ALL OF MY MONEY.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I say we push this guy for a Kickstarter anyway. I have pretty high expectations of this being a pretty successful project even with just Western support.

 

[enfieldvball]

Would they be able to do a kickstarter and if that KS goal was met show it to potential investors/publishers to show interest?

 

[Frolow]

Any rich GAFers want to fund this?

 

[SteveWinwood]

Would they be able to do a kickstarter and if that KS goal was met show it to potential investors/publishers to show interest?

Then everyone would complain about how it was a scam because they weren't kickstarting the game just some sort of interest campaign. People don't read that shit.

 

[SoulUnison]

This could be the worst unresolved gaming plotline since Megaman stayed trapped alone on the moon for eternity.

 

[The Silver]

It's time for devs to stop making huge cliffhangers if they aren't 100% sure they can make a sequel, this is too much for my heart.

 

[SteveWinwood]

It's time for devs to stop making huge cliffhangers if they aren't 100% sure they can make a sequel, this is too much for my heart.

No more cliffhangers ever I guess.

 

[AmethystEnd]

God....DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.

Of all the things to not be funded. Of all the niche titles to not be supported even in its HOME GODDAMN COUNTRY.

I had no sads today.

I have now found all the sads.

 

[Storm Chamber]

Yeah, it's unfortunate that one of the only games with a good story is pretty much ignored by the everyone. The curse of being on handhelds strikes again.

Meanwhile, clichéd dreck like Walking Dead and Last of Us get called the Citizen Kanes of video games. What a farce.

oh dear

 

[73V3N]

ZE3 exclusive for PS Vita, do it Sony !

why would anyone want that

 

[2+2=5]

The ending of VLR was beyond bad though.
I guess that in the meantime i have to "content" myself with Daganronpa games

 

[The Silver]

No more cliffhangers ever I guess.

i said huge cliffhangers, this entire game was literally a setup for a sequel

 

[Fey]

it's young justice all over again why does everything I like, except Madonna, flop fuck me

 

[hohoXD123]

It's time for devs to stop making huge cliffhangers if they aren't 100% sure they can make a sequel, this is too much for my heart.

Great idea, screw over the story due to the financial uncertainty which will be present for every game out there.

 

[sssstententen]

Would easily be the first kick starter I fund.

 

[Kaswa101]

let's kicstart this thing.sony would be wise to get an exclusive on this one

I loved VLR, but it actually wouldn't be that wise for Sony to fund this. Both games sold terribly, and if the sequel is Vita exclusive, it would sell even worse. Not exactly a smart move for Sony, especially since people are waiting on AAA Vita exclusives, not more Japanese games.

That being said, I hope they find a way to fund this. It's a good series that deserves a solid conclusion for the sake of its fans.

 

[Dragner]

 

[SteveWinwood]

People keep saying it sold terribly.

Anyone have any rough numbers from territories and (for the the sequel) platforms?

Edit: ^^^ Jesus christ that picture has been through hell.