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Rumor: Half Life 3 still not in full development
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magnumpy
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since when does a cartoon where all the characters have four fingers on each hand represent real life in any way.
Professor Renegade
Banned
And not a single Gaffer was surprised
Coffee Dog
Banned
You're exactly the reason I'm not playing HL3 right now, lol.
Read this: http://deadhomersociety.com/zombiesimpsons/
tl;dr Simspons went from being a pretty clever satirical take on American life and culture to "just" a wacky cartoon sitcom.
Confusion Illusion
Banned
Nope. It's mostly just racketeering now. The whole video games thing is just a front.
lensoftruth
Member
Steam the service isn't Valve the Developer, it'll come when it's ready.
Whether or not this specific rumor is a reliable source doesn't matter...I really don't expect Half-Life 3 to ever get made at this point. It's simply been too long, and unlike other games like Shenmue 3, this isn't the result of a massive bomb...it sold very well back then, probably would have continued to do so...but if the people who own it don't want to make it, it's never coming...
Oh well...maybe someday Valve will throw us a bone and let another team make it.
Oh well...maybe someday Valve will throw us a bone and let another team make it.
Theanine3D
Member
It's kind of sad that I actually see this as an improvement.
I thought the game was completely dead. Better to be in development in a minor fashion than not at all I guess.
I honestly want a L4D3 more than HL3 at this point anyway.
I thought the game was completely dead. Better to be in development in a minor fashion than not at all I guess.
I honestly want a L4D3 more than HL3 at this point anyway.
I love how they completely ignore The Witcher 3 and Metal Gear Solid.
LMAO
RumblingRosco
Member
At this point, I'd settle for a 20 minute in-game cinematic that wraps up the story.
Doesn't surprise me. Valve isn't financially pressured at all to release it, and while it would certainly make a lot of money it could potentially hurt their reputation if it ended up being a flop given the insane expectations. I can only imagine the ridiculous backlash if it didn't live up to expectations. As much as I hate to say it, it may be safer for them to avoid it at this point.
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Deleted member 80556
Unconfirmed Member
I love how you changed Arkham Knight for MGS. I wasn't really happy with AK. MGS is a better example.
But anyway, people only focus on the negative.
wipeout364
Member
When they hired Clint Hocking a few years back I thought they were going to ramp up production on half life, but then he left shortly there after. I always wondered if he got there and the place was a mess. I mean that nothing is getting done except small projects and I winder if they no longer have the ability to pull off something like Half life in 2015. It seems like all they do is micro transaction stuff. Except Portal everything has just been micro transactions and copying templates other developers already did : Team Fortress, Left for dead 2, counter strike Go, DOTA.
They are building steam OS but they have been too slow they needed to strike when windows 8 hate was at its max. Windows 10 will turn that around likely and gamers are starting to think of valve like apple, microsoft and sony and I believe the micro transaction fetish they have is the cause people no longer feel valve has their back. Just my opinion and I considered myself a big valve fan a few years ago.
They are building steam OS but they have been too slow they needed to strike when windows 8 hate was at its max. Windows 10 will turn that around likely and gamers are starting to think of valve like apple, microsoft and sony and I believe the micro transaction fetish they have is the cause people no longer feel valve has their back. Just my opinion and I considered myself a big valve fan a few years ago.
LEFT 4 DEAD 3 will likely be Valve's next game. The company's personnel are spread throughout a panoply of projects and have no pressure except from the avid community to release HALF-LIFE 3.
A Valve employee's salary is based on coworker evaluations and releasing products boasts bonuses for the participatory staff. There's little reward in chipping away on a project that has an enormous amount of pressure attached to it.
There's far more satisfaction in working on a game such as DOTA 2 because of the "instant" gratification and tangible incentives.
A Valve employee's salary is based on coworker evaluations and releasing products boasts bonuses for the participatory staff. There's little reward in chipping away on a project that has an enormous amount of pressure attached to it.
There's far more satisfaction in working on a game such as DOTA 2 because of the "instant" gratification and tangible incentives.
Elfforkusu
Member
In other words... they do do exclusives.
In any case, if they need market share for SteamOS and/or VR, it would make sense roll out Half Life 3 as an exclusive. If they don't, it (probably) doesn't make much business sense to do it at all.
Ottoni_Bastos
Banned
From this i can only take that Valve was planning to do some non-fanbase-friendly changes
on the game(casualization,multiplayer focus,f2p,microtransactions,etc...) 'cause otherwise why would people get mad with them making a game people actually want them to make?
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Deleted member 80556
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The way they organize their staff has been proved to not be efficient and well, when people have the opportunity to choose what they work on, they'll go for the one with the least resistance. And also, when your salary is determined by peer review and whether or not what you do is viable also impacts how much money you'll do, you probably wouldn't select Half Life 3, a project that is unlikely to come out any time soon, as your main project, right?
The problem is that is virtually impossible for this to change in Valve, which will leave them in that perpetual problem, which they seem to be happy in. I mean Gabe has always said that they make more money per employee than Apple and Google (or something along those lines), so I doubt they'll fix what isn't broken for them.
EDIT: Ha, B33 said it better than I did.
apparently they aren't making dota 2 updates either. there's ostensibly like 5 people still working on dota 2.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Employees are busy counting money, making CS Go skins, and TF2 hats, than developing games.
Cameron122
Member
I'm tired of this goose chase 
Prototype Viktor
Member
100 million stretch goal is to put if on a steam sale for 33% off
It doesn't even need to be a fuckup.
Just a minor miscomm or design niggle (e.g. Freeman gets a diff beard) will get amplified to biblical proportions.
nephilimdj
Member
I wouldn't be surprised that the Portal 2 Coop cosmetic DLC was a test for Half-Life3, I doubt anyone bought it except whales since a tiny pixel flag is not worth $2.50
visiblemode
Member
Said it before but man, Valve really disgusts me on this subject.
I feel, as a former Valve superfan, that by not bothering to finish a story they left us on a cliffhanger with, they have zero respect for us.
In turn, I have no respect for Valve.
I do think Steam and some of their other products are impressive but I have no direct affection for a company that I once adored.
I feel, as a former Valve superfan, that by not bothering to finish a story they left us on a cliffhanger with, they have zero respect for us.
In turn, I have no respect for Valve.
I do think Steam and some of their other products are impressive but I have no direct affection for a company that I once adored.
Fuck how many hats and skins do they even make?
abercrombie
Member
It's been so long I can say I am no longer surprised. On the other hand I just don't understand Valve's perceived indifference to the franchise. Which is unfortunate, right now I'm slowly going through Black Mesa and really liking it, my hopes of a HL3 are coming back as a consequence.
Have terrorists replaced space aliens as the video game enemy du jour? Boring if so...
Have terrorists replaced space aliens as the video game enemy du jour? Boring if so...
But is he talking about within valve, or gaming consumers & the media?
Big Green Anus
Member
I would prefer Valve making Half-Life 3 a higher priority compared to F2P games, but I understand their decision. It makes sense for them financially.
funkystudent
Member
Valve seems like a real bad company to work at if you want shipped games on your CV.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
I'm not sure why you'd save HL3 until the hypothetical point where you are desperate for cash. That sounds like a way to produce a horrible video game as opposed to releasing it when you are making a lot of money and everyone is happy.
And then there are those who are too far gone...
You get to put "worked at Valve" though.
7DollarHagane
Banned
well, i guess it would be nice but i honestly feel like i've moved on.
It's all of our collective faults for paying for all these damn skins and cases.
That said I don't really understand why they're content to sit on DOTA, TF2, and CSGO?
releasing the next generation engine with a must have game to demonstrate it like HL3 helps the next generation of moneymakers come along.
As popular as they are DOTA2, TF2, and CSGO won't last forever. The virtual item economy is very fragile and if everyone just decides to stop paying for shiny knives as it's not that important it can disappear very quickly.
Having quality content instead of just desirable status symbol items for sale is important.
It's all of our collective faults for paying for all these damn skins and cases.
That said I don't really understand why they're content to sit on DOTA, TF2, and CSGO?
releasing the next generation engine with a must have game to demonstrate it like HL3 helps the next generation of moneymakers come along.
As popular as they are DOTA2, TF2, and CSGO won't last forever. The virtual item economy is very fragile and if everyone just decides to stop paying for shiny knives as it's not that important it can disappear very quickly.
Having quality content instead of just desirable status symbol items for sale is important.