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Media Create Sales: Week 50, 2010: {13/12/10 - 19/12/10}

duckroll

Member
Kojima's name is worthless. I think he should have realized this after ZoE and Boktai totally bombed. The only reason MGS sells is because people are interested in what MGS is, and Kojima is a good enough designer and director to create a high quality product with that theme. MGS would still sell without Kojima if someone else could maintain the high quality of the games.
 

Fularu

Banned
cvxfreak said:
They did it once. They can do it again.
I have no doubts that it's already in the works

I mean, Nintendo prety much took care of MH3 overseas and pushed it prety heavily. It is, to date, the most successfull MH game outside of Japan.
 

test_account

XP-39C²
Does anyone think that Level 5 might drop the physical book on Ni No Kuni PS3 and make it digital only (included in the game, as being accessed through a menu) if they have problems selling the DS version's first shipment?
 

Shirokun

Member
Bebpo said:
Yeah umineko is a huge huge bomb. Higurashi did like 70k and they were expecting more out of umineko. I guess umineko just isn't that popular like higurashi was.

Plus maybe higurashi didn't release in one of the most crowded Japanese sales months in fore er.

This isn't completely unexpected. Higurashi also released on the PS2, which definitely had a more established fanbase for VN(If I'm not mistaken, you can count the number of VN for the PS3 on two hands). Still it's disappointing. I wonder if this means no Chiru in the future?
 

Takao

Banned
test_account said:
Does anyone think that Level 5 might drop the physical book on Ni No Kuni PS3 and make it digital only (included in the game, as being accessed through a menu) if they have problems selling the DS version's first shipment?

Not really, the DS's issue is that it's a portable game, and lugging both a book and the DS around isn't exactly portable. The PS3 version is a home version, thus having a book wouldn't cause problems.
 

duckroll

Member
test_account said:
Does anyone think that Level 5 might drop the physical book on Ni No Kuni PS3 and make it digital only (included in the game, as being accessed through a menu) if they have problems selling the DS version's first shipment?

Depends on how stubborn Hino is. The book idea is his pet project and something he has been pushing hard. He wants it to be a true premium physical role playing experience where the player gets to use the book just like the character in the game, in real life. He is also the CEO of his private company. If he changes his mind, sure it could happen. If he doesn't, then no one has the authority to overwrite him.

Takao said:
Not really, the DS's issue is that it's a portable game, and lugging both a book and the DS around isn't exactly portable. The PS3 version is a home version, thus having a book wouldn't cause problems.

That's not the problem he's talking about. The book makes the package huge and expensive, and retailers will be wary of stocking another product like that from the same publisher if this goes very badly.
 

Fularu

Banned
duckroll said:
Depends on how stubborn Hino is. The book idea is his pet project and something he has been pushing hard. He wants it to be a true premium physical role playing experience where the player gets to use the book just like the character in the game, in real life. He is also the CEO of his private company. If he changes his mind, sure it could happen. If he doesn't, then no one has the authority to overwrite him.
It makes more sense to play the game with a book on a console though. You're at home, you're confortable and you can play and peek in the book at the same time.

On a handheld? Not so much
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
duckroll said:
Kojima's name is worthless. I think he should have realized this after ZoE and Boktai totally bombed. The only reason MGS sells is because people are interested in what MGS is, and Kojima is a good enough designer and director to create a high quality product with that theme. MGS would still sell without Kojima if someone else could maintain the high quality of the games.
You could say that with almost any game. Black Ops is a good example.
 

Busaiku

Member
Looks like PS3 will be down YoY.
Wii had a almost caught up to last year, but it should be down too.

Also, it's great to see Kirby's Epic Yarn have some fight left in it.
Donkey Kong Country Returns also seems to going strong too.
 

jeremy1456

Junior Member
Busaiku said:
Looks like PS3 will be down YoY.
Wii had a almost caught up to last year, but it should be down too.

Also, it's great to see Kirby's Epic Yarn have some fight left in it.
Donkey Kong Country Returns also seems to going strong too.

Isn't there another week left? I think both will be up YoY.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Busaiku said:
Looks like PS3 will be down YoY.
Wii had a almost caught up to last year, but it should be down too.

Also, it's great to see Kirby's Epic Yarn have some fight left in it.
Donkey Kong Country Returns also seems to going strong too.
2009 had 53 weeks, 2010 has 52.
 

test_account

XP-39C²
Takao said:
Not really, the DS's issue is that it's a portable game, and lugging both a book and the DS around isn't exactly portable. The PS3 version is a home version, thus having a book wouldn't cause problems.
Ye, in that way it probably is less of a problem with a standalone console compared to a handheld indeed :) But as duckroll said, i was thinking about the financial concern of bundling a book like this with every copy of the game.


duckroll said:
Depends on how stubborn Hino is. The book idea is his pet project and something he has been pushing hard. He wants it to be a true premium physical role playing experience where the player gets to use the book just like the character in the game, in real life. He is also the CEO of his private company. If he changes his mind, sure it could happen. If he doesn't, then no one has the authority to overwrite him.
Ah ok, i see. Maybe the physical book on the PS3 will be more of a limited edition while the standard edition will have the book on the disc, but we'll see what happends :)
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
You could say that with almost any game. Black Ops is a good example.

Many of us do say that quite frequently about "any game." There is a subset of people who insist that certain directors like Kojima are an exception to this rule, but reality seems to disagree. :lol
 

Meier

Member
European date format isn't appropriate for this thread.

MHP numbers are of course amazing but kudos to Kirby and Black Ops as well. With subbed and dubbed versions, it seems like CoD will be one of the most successful Western releases of the last decade.
 

Busaiku

Member
Chris1964 said:
2009 had 53 weeks, 2010 has 52.
This is going off week 52 of 2010.

In week 51, Final Fantasy XIII was released, and PS3 got over 200k.
That's definitely not happening this year.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
miladesn said:
if by that you mean something like a theater mode then nope. They said easy mode is there so people that are stuck in the game get to see the story, that was it.

and oh Monster Hunter, Nintendo better money hat it as much as they possibly can :lol .

Hmm, thought they added unlockable theater mode. Maybe not.
 

duckroll

Member
test_account said:
Ah ok, i see. Maybe the physical book on the PS3 will be more of a limited edition while the standard edition will have the book on the disc, but we'll see what happends :)

The next ridiculous Level 5 package is actually Cardboard Senki in March. The PSP game will ship in a box with a special plastic model kit of the prototype robot in the game. It is not a limited edition, it's a freebie. Every single package is supposed to have that, and while there will be actual retail model kits sold based on the various robots in the game, the prototype one (before customization) is only available if you buy the game.

We'll see how that sells. It should tell us a few things:
a) Are retailers turned off by the large L5 packages regardless of game?
b) Do consumers avoid buying packages which look large and potentially perceived as more expensive compared to a normal game package?
 

test_account

XP-39C²
zero_suit said:
If they do, and they easily can, it's all over for the PSP2.
I think that it is too early to say too much about the PSP2 since we dont know it's features or pricetag. Systems does sometimes follow their predecessor's success, but not always. A good example of this is the PS3 and the Wii. Back in the days before we knew the PS3's and Wii's functions and pricetags it was commonly belived that the PS3 would be the most popular system due to the popularity of the PS1 and the PS2. But as we all know, this didnt happend.


duckroll said:
The next ridiculous Level 5 package is actually Cardboard Senki in March. The PSP game will ship in a box with a special plastic model kit of the prototype robot in the game. It is not a limited edition, it's a freebie. Every single package is supposed to have that, and while there will be actual retail model kits sold based on the various robots in the game, the prototype one (before customization) is only available if you buy the game.

We'll see how that sells. It should tell us a few things:
a) Are retailers turned off by the large L5 packages regardless of game?
b) Do consumers avoid buying packages which look large and potentially perceived as more expensive compared to a normal game package?
Oh, i didnt know about this game. It should be interesting to see how it sells and it could tell us something about future release of Level 5 games indeed when it comes to have big packages :)
 

Kujo

Member
cvxfreak said:
I don't think using a European date format is a wise idea.

This is a thread about Japanese sales, where YY/MM/DD is used. NeoGAF is technically an American forum, where MM/DD/YY is used.
Pfft, DD/MM/YY makes the most sense. I'm more weirded out about the usage of periods instead of commas in the numbers :p
 
Congratulations to Kurosaki Ichigo in the rankings by units and onken in the points one!

Note: Took out Umineko as mentioned beforehand because it didn't make top20.
Code:
Results	By Units			By Points	
1	 46000	Kurosaki Ichigo		 73,09%	onken
2	 64000	onken			 75,79%	Spiegel
3	 72000	Spiegel			 86,35%	Kurosaki Ichigo
4	 92000	cw_sasuke		125,51%	Chris1964
5	100000	Road			133,55%	cw_sasuke
6	115121	Chris1964		154,19%	Road
7	119678	duckroll		166,51%	Orgen
8	122000	Orgen			270,50%	duckroll
9	275000	The_lascar		481,74%	The_lascar

12/13-12/19	Sales	Chris	Orgen	cw_sa	duckr	The_l	Kuro	Spieg	onken	Road
NDS IE3 Ogre	176000	234567	256000	198000	165325	250000	187000	190000	200000	222000
PSP Shining H.	107000	123456	112000	76000	122451	90000	127000	145000	110000	99000
PS3 Gundam M3	186000	210987	197000	166000	225678	280000	187000	200000	160000	166000
PS3 CODBODub	23000	34567	45000	40000	68224	85000	37000	27000	20000	44000
PS3 Castlevania	27000	23456	31000	25000	35650	55000	27000	25000	35000	22000					
										
Difference	0	115121	122000	92000	119678	275000	46000	72000	64000	100000							
Difference (%)	0,00%	125,51%	166,51%	133,55%	270,50%	481,74%	86,35%	75,79%	73,09%	154,19%
										
NDS IE3 Ogre	0	58567	80000	22000	-10675	74000	11000	14000	24000	46000
PSP Shining H.	0	16456	5000	-31000	15451	-17000	20000	38000	3000	-8000
PS3 Gundam M3	0	24987	11000	-20000	39678	94000	1000	14000	-26000	-20000
PS3 CODBODub	0	11567	22000	17000	45224	62000	14000	4000	-3000	21000
PS3 Castlevania	0	-3544	4000	-2000	8650	28000	0	-2000	8000	-5000
Past Predictions Results:
12/06-12/12 Predictions Results
11/29-12/05 Predictions Results
11/22-11/28 Predictions Results
 
All this talk about MHP3 got me thinking, before MHP3G on PSP2 or 3DS, we should get a home console MH3G right? Maybe by August/September of next year or so. Do people still think that will be Wii exclusive? Or, given how a lot of ex Wii exclusives (NMH, SW3, ToG, Rune Factory, etc) are now going PS3Wii, will MH3G be going that route as well? Or maybe even PS3 exclusive?

I'm kinda interested to see where it will go. I personally think it'll go PS3/Wii, maybe even PS3/Wii/360. When MHTri launched, the series was at an all time high popularity at the time, and it was the first home console MH to sell over a million, I believe MH is even more popular now than a couple of years ago and could maybe even outsell FFXIII as the best 3rd party home console game this generation in Japan.
 
The Antitype said:
So wait, Monster Hunter on the PSP is destroying the sales charts, what happened to that Wii game?
Eh... It was released long ago, did quite well and is now off the charts? I don't know what you're asking here.
 

fernoca

Member
As expected. No wonder why Nintendo always say that this months are their biggest selling ones.

Kinda weird too how a few months ago I was banned, because I was laughing at all those sites and the thread here about "PS3 outsells Wii in Japan" for the year, back then it was like a 20k difference; for which I made fun of the sites and the sensationalist titles like that because it was only after a week and I said that things may change before the end of the year.

Now Wii's back to outselling the PS3 for the year (and again wit ha 20k difference), probably incoming reports soon (and thread) so I won't say anything this time. :p
 

antonz

Member
AranhaHunter said:
All this talk about MHP3 got me thinking, before MHP3G on PSP2 or 3DS, we should get a home console MH3G right? Maybe by August/September of next year or so. Do people still think that will be Wii exclusive? Or, given how a lot of ex Wii exclusives (NMH, SW3, ToG, Rune Factory, etc) are now going PS3Wii, will MH3G be going that route as well? Or maybe even PS3 exclusive?

I'm kinda interested to see where it will go. I personally think it'll go PS3/Wii, maybe even PS3/Wii/360. When MHTri launched, the series was at an all time high popularity at the time, and it was the first home console MH to sell over a million, I believe MH is even more popular now than a couple of years ago and could maybe even outsell FFXIII as the best 3rd party home console game this generation in Japan.

Fairly certain Nintendo moneyhatted MH3. No way its gonna show on the HD twins. It was a PS3 game and announced as such then when it came time to actually talk about it boom Nintendo Wii Game.
 
antonz said:
Fairly certain Nintendo moneyhatted MH3. No way its gonna show on the HD twins. It was a PS3 game and announced as such then when it came time to actually talk about it boom Nintendo Wii Game.

The question is not whether they "moneyhatted" Tri - they almost certainly did in terms of advertising support, development assistance (the CCPro seems to have been mostly a response to the demands of Capcom and MH players), pushing it in the West etc. etc. - but whether or not that agreement extends to prevent Capcom from releasing a MH game on a competing home console (for the sake of this discussion, I'm ignoring Frontier, as it seems to just be a bit of an oddity and not on the level of, say, a hypothetical Tri G PS3/Wii crossplatform release).
 

rosjos44

Member
To be honest I think that Capcom knew they would have higher profit margins on Wii than the HD consoles. I mean it is cheaper to develop games on Wii than 360 or Ps3.
 
Ricker said:
Ouch at Castlevania....I thought this was still big in Japan but I guess not...27k?? really? wow...that surprises the hell out of me that it`s not more...
Castlevania was never big in Japan. The devs normally state the games are targeted towards a western audience since that's where it sells.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Spiegel said:
EDIT

Nvm, I was mixing Famitsu and M-C.

Anyone has the list of the biggest 3rd and 4th weeks?
I missed this

Media Create biggest 3rd week
{13/12/10 - 19/12/10} 01. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (Capcom) {01/12/10} - 581.543 / 3.161.801
{14/12/09 - 20/12/09} 02. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) {03/12/09} - 567.890 / 1.933.827
{27/09/10 - 03/10/10} 01. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White (Pokemon Co.) {18/09/10} - 374.589 / 3.761.217
{19/12/05 - 25/12/05} 03. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {08/12/05} - 302.742 / 667.799
{20/07/09 - 26/07/09} 01. [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies (Square Enix) {11/07/09} - 270.305 / 3.201.908

Media Create biggest 4th week
{21/12/09 - 27/12/09} 01. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) {03/12/09} - 506.453 / 2.440.280
{28/09/09 - 04/10/09} 02. [NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold / Soul Silver (Pokemon Co.) {12/09/09} - 267.127 / 2.285.244
{04/10/10 - 10/10/10} 01. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White (Pokemon Co.) {18/09/10} - 231.638 / 3.992.855
{17/12/07 - 23/12/07} 03. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) {01/12/07} - 214.334 / 749.385
{12/06/06 - 18/06/06} 01. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {25/05/06} - 200.037 / 1.678.646


Famitsu biggest 3rd week
{14/12/09 - 20/12/09} 02. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) {03/12/09} - 570.512 / 1.972.070
{29/11/99 - 05/12/99} 01. [NGB] Pokemon Gold / Silver (Nintendo) {21/11/99} - 453.500 / 2.317.549
{27/09/10 - 03/10/10} 01. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White (Pokemon Co.) {18/09/10} - 372.619 / 3.782.076
{04/09/00 - 10/09/00} 01. [PS1] Dragon Quest VII: Fighters of Eden (Enix) {26/08/00} - 329.317 / 3.263.668
{02/12/02 - 08/12/02} 01. [GBA] Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire (Pokemon Co.) {21/11/02} - 321.408 / 2.037.949

Famitsu biggest 4th week
{21/12/09 - 27/12/09} 01. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) {03/12/09} - 513.080 / 2.485.150
{09/12/02 - 15/12/02} 01. [GBA] Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire (Pokemon Co.) {21/11/02} - 336.847 / 2.374.796
{06/12/99 - 12/12/99} 02. [NGB] Pokemon Gold / Silver (Nintendo) {21/11/99} - 301.003 / 2.618.551
{28/09/09 - 04/10/09} 03. [NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold / Soul Silver (Pokemon Co.) {12/09/09} - 269.978 / 2.337.587
{16/10/06 - 22/10/06} 01. [NDS] Pokemon Diamond / Pearl (Pokemon Co.) {28/09/06} - 231.627 / 2.542.958
 

donny2112

Member
Mojo said:
Pfft, DD/MM/YY makes the most sense. I'm more weirded out about the usage of periods instead of commas in the numbers :p

Avoid the ambiguity altogether and spell out the month.

Media Create Sales: Week 50, 2010: {13-19 December 2010}

It keeps the EU format and avoid confusion about what the dates cover.

Personally, I like YYYYMMDD, but then, I also use dates in programs a lot for ORDER BYs. :lol
 
Wow, I was right about MHP3 being the biggest selling 3rd week. Sucker is pounding away at the charts, lol. Maybe my prediction that it will outsell Pokemon will come to pass...no idea though.

Also it's sad to see the Wii sell so much again. Almost nothing has released for it, but that bump is massive. WTH!?

Oh well, another crappy prediciton by me(that PS3 would keep its lead). I am depressed.
 

jman2050

Member
BladeoftheImmortal said:
Also it's sad to see the Wii sell so much again. Almost nothing has released for it, but that bump is massive. WTH!?

Nintendo owns the holidays. I'm saying that now but it's inevitable that we'll go through this same song and dance again come NPD time.
 

cvxfreak

Member
donny2112 said:
Avoid the ambiguity altogether and spell out the month.

Media Create Sales: Week 50, 2010: {13-19 December 2010}

It keeps the EU format and avoid confusion about what the dates cover.

Personally, I like YYYYMMDD, but then, I also use dates in programs a lot for ORDER BYs. :lol

I don't think we need 2010 in the title twice either. In fact, I'm not even sure we really need the weeks, unless comparing with previous years is a big thing.
 

Gadfly

While flying into a tree he exclaimed "Egad!"
Celine said:
Programmers think alike :D
Actually as a programmer I prefer a "64-bit value representing the number of 100-nanosecond intervals since January 1, 1601 (UTC)".
 

onken

Member
And yeah, what's with the curly brackets and the date change? The old system was fine, this change displeases my A-type blood.
 
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