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Of course. 2 is the better game.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
You can't fool me. You posted it on purpose, knowing perfectly well Monkey's imminent reaction.
Thunder Monkey
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*waves excitedly*
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Here's a topic:
How do you think Pikmin 3 will control on the Gamepad? Miyamoto said the game's director has recently started to exclusively use e gamepad controls and NOA-Krista mentioned in that video interview posted yesterday that the gamepad controls are still being worked on, so wiimote controls won't be the only way to play the game.
Will they use the digital clicks? How will the cursor be controlled? With the same left-stick used for movement like the originals? Or will it be mapped to the right stick? Which would mean the throw and whistle commands would need to be mapped to the trigger buttons as the face buttons would be inaccessible with dual controls. And what about swarming? It's not in the wiimote scheme but would Nintendo program in swarming just for the pad controls?
Yes. Gyro. Yes. Right stick is camera. Yes. Swarming: yes.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Hey look, actual hard data!Gahiggidy I'm sorry but I won't post any photos of the power brick, it's nothing interesting though. It's bigger than Wii's I think, the input is 230V, 50 Hz, 0.9 A and the output is 15V, 5.0A. Obviously
So output is 75W, versus 44.4W for the Wii (12V * 3.7A). Interesting.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Gahiggidy I'm sorry but I won't post any photos of the power brick, it's nothing interesting though. It's bigger than Wii's I think, the input is 230V, 50 Hz, 0.9 A and the output is 15V, 5.0A. Obviously
For reals?
DeviousAngel
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You know, I never really thought about the possibility of using the right stick to control the cursor... but using the triggers to throw sounds weird. Maybe I'm just too used to the gamecube controls
For reals.
Thunder Monkey
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No built in fan, hard to say relatively speaking, but maybe slightly shorter than the 360's, maybe a bit bulkier? It's pretty much a souped up Wii brick.
EDIT: Maybe slightly more than half a Wii U in length.
wii used about 15-19 watts BTW. link to wii power usage
Interesting... This fit in line with what I would expect. I think the wiiu will use around 35-50 watts. That is what I been saying all along.
You missed the "I believe.." part? You said "said that nitendo." He was guessing...
stupidvillager
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". I believe Nintendo indended the GPU compute support to make up the difference for their weak CPU choice, however the CPU performance is so bad that devs would be required to refactor their entire engines to get stuff working on the GPU instead, and for many dev that would be impossible on their current project schedules." This is what he says. Not that it just has compute support. With the info that he has, this what he thinks nintendo is doing. And this from alberto http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39227871&postcount=4047. Now whether he is talking gpgpu or something im not sure.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
For reference, the power brick for the TurboGrafx-CD was rated at 16.83 watts (11V * 1.53A), which was state of the art for its time:
As a project, someone should out together a chart of the watts usage from all the consoles going back to the Atari days.
As a project, someone should out together a chart of the watts usage from all the consoles going back to the Atari days.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Can you run games like 1313 and Watch Dogs on 35-50 watts?
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
A 50W nominal load sounds reasonable for this rating of the power supply.
Watch_Dogs, yes. 1313? I have no clue.
My reasoning for Watch_Dogs is this: It was revealed to be a PS360 game (maybe Wii U, maybe not). Wii U is more powerful than PS360. Wii U should be able to handle Watch_Dogs. It just seems to be a very efficient machine, power-usage-wise. PS2 uses what--50 watts on load? And Wii is clearly more powerful than a PS2, but uses a fraction of its power. Nintendo seriously knows how to make efficient machines.
Maybe at sub hd levels with some features turned off and 2d only the second screen.
But this is how most AAA games have been on the ps360. COD/ bf3 for example run at sub HD res I believe and some features turn off.
The wiiu will run these games better than the ps360 if that means anything.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
All my monitors at home are technically TVs ; )
Tell me about it. Just spent money on a new power supply and a new case for my PC. So much for "This money will be going straight for the Wii U!" :/
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
No harm, I say, as long as your wife would not mind ; )
nordique
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Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
I don't like cradles. I'd rather have a robotic snake-cable that crawls out from under the tv stand and hooks up your gamepad to charge while you are out of the room.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Well, you can tell her you've got a young cuttie in the back seat of the car, then preempt with a 'Honey, I'm kidding, it's just a 47" TV' ;p
DeviousAngel
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This is strangely... arousing... not to mention expensive
But seriously, I too would welcome some innovation in this department. I remember someone in the gaming section wondering why some sort of universal inductive charging station doesn't exist. I'm sure there are issues, but I would not hesitate to purchase something like a coffee table that charged my devices. Would be perfect for all types of controllers, including the gamepad.
bgassassin
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A console that is at worst 5 times weaker is really going to get poor looking versions and as time goes on in the generation and we reach the second half of it (2017 - 2020) i fear Wii U might get separate versions using different engines like the original Wii and eventually none at all.[/quote]
First where are you getting 5x weaker from even as an extreme? Second Wii U's successor will be out during the time you are mentioning.
That would still depend on where it would be ported from.
Where are you getting UE4 from? They said Samaritan and Star Wars 1313 and those aren't UE4. They were talking about UE3 advancements that use DX11. And that from a raw power standpoint could be handled by weaker GPUs as long as they had the necessary DX11 features. And if you look at the full context of the sentence (which I underlined) they went back to the CPU being the issue, not the GPU to reach that potential.
And if Wii U supports DX11-level features, then of course it would support DX10.1 features.
IMO, a rushed attempt to have a first party title out at launch. NSMB should be one of the last things you judge the console's hardware by.
The lawsuits will be glorious.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
This is strangely... arousing... not to mention expensive
But seriously, I too would welcome some innovation in this department. I remember someone in the gaming section wondering why some sort of universal inductive charging station doesn't exist. I'm sure there are issues, but I would not hesitate to purchase something like a coffee table that charged my devices. Would be perfect for all types of controllers, including the gamepad.
Yeah, something as simple as the "break-away" magnetic power connectors Apple laptops use would be very convenient. I don't know why that isn't in wider use; perhaps the magnets interfere with cellphone electronics?
It sounds like SmartGlass works through HTML and JavaScript...so I expect the possibilities to be somewhat limited. Decently fancy stuff should be possible although I wonder how many devs will bother.
Patents...although that isn't to say that they couldn't be designed around in some way.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Here is another shot with the power brick visible...
This, according to "We Dadkodte", is from an event in Portugal:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150900799061272.410299.357582271271&type=1
Also, here is a shot of what looks like a hub-area of the Nintendoland Zelda attraction:
This, according to "We Dadkodte", is from an event in Portugal:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150900799061272.410299.357582271271&type=1
Also, here is a shot of what looks like a hub-area of the Nintendoland Zelda attraction:
gamergirly
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I know this is random but this music is just awesome
http://www.thejasoneffect.net/music/GoldenSunSoundtrack/83 Mysterious Caves.mp3
http://www.thejasoneffect.net/music/GoldenSunSoundtrack/83 Mysterious Caves.mp3
I know this is random but this music is just awesome
http://www.thejasoneffect.net/music/GoldenSunSoundtrack/83 Mysterious Caves.mp3
In my top five game soundtracks.
Yep this is where I was.
EDIT: The Power brick isn't that white thing though, that's an extension cord thingie
I can post a pic of it from afar, just not the close up. Gimme a few minutes.EDIT 2:
It's the grey thing on the bottom left. It's at an angle and in a mess of cables, but you can make it out.
EDIT3: And that isn't a hub, it's just the small presentation video flying over the level.
The same article. " Our Direct-X-comparing insider considers UE4 as requiring Direct X 11 performance and capabilities, a standard beyond Nintendo's new device."
stupidvillager
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Ok, so what in DX11 would the Wii U need that it doesnt have?
bgassassin
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But that part wasn't associated with the section we were discussing. That's what was throwing me off about you continually bringing up UE4. It wasn't relevant to what we were talking about.
As for the UE4 section, the problem is with the way the article is either wrote or how their source is explaining it.
According to them.
Wii U - DX9 performance/DX11 capabilities
PS4/Xbox 3 - DX11 performance/DX11 capabilities
(Most) Everyone knows DX11 is an API and talks about features. For some reason they are using it for performance as well which we know that makes no sense. The most likely explanation is that it's talking about the raw power of the GPU and that person is saying Nintendo doesn't have the raw power it believes is necessary for UE4. We already have Sweeney saying otherwise unless he misspoke in that interview.
lwilliams3
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It said "Direct X 11 performance and capabilities." It is awkward that the article is using Direct X as some rating on how powerful the system is, as it doesn't work that way (example: ipad vs 360/PS3). In either case, the article stated that the Wii U was apparently Direct X9 "performance", but Direct x11 "capabilities". Going by the author's way of phrasing this concept, it is basically saying that even though the Wii U is not very powerful, it has direct X11 features.
Edit: bgassassin was faster than me.
Greetings everyone, yet another junior here. I've been following the WUSTs since the very first one and I am excited that I finally get to join in. I promise to play nice with all the other kids.
Regarding the whole DX9 performance/DX11 features thing, what does that even mean? It seems to me like someone who didn't exactly know what he was talking about, but tried to sound like he did. I would think that someone with a technical background would have worded that quite a bit better.
But that's just me.
Regarding the whole DX9 performance/DX11 features thing, what does that even mean? It seems to me like someone who didn't exactly know what he was talking about, but tried to sound like he did. I would think that someone with a technical background would have worded that quite a bit better.
But that's just me.
I agree the article garage click bait.
Edit. Did you catch we got the power brick specs. It a 75w brick.
If they follow the wii it would be about 35-40w. At 66% which is about Max it would be 50watts power usage.
tkscz
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It kind of sounds like they are trying to say it supports OpenGL ES 2.0. GLES 2.0, IIRC , supports features from OpenGL 4.1 and up, at the same time, GLES 2.0 is what the PS3 uses. So GLES is like DX9 with DX11 features?
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