Well they have always been selling a console that won't let you play multiplayer without a yearly subscription so this doesn't really seem particularly more heinous.
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Halo 4 - mandatory 8GB install for MP
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Well they have always been selling a console that won't let you play multiplayer without a yearly subscription so this doesn't really seem particularly more heinous.
It's not, as they're both shady bullshit.
Yeah, but that's a service. This is an actual entire part of the game. You don't need Gold to use the entire featureset of Halo 3, ODST, or Reach.
AstroNut325
Member
Ditto... I thought the most popular SKU was the arcade pack?
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Again, the Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask would even boot unless the user bought extra hardware. Not seeing how this is a new issue unique to just the 360. In fact it is mostly first party developers who break the rules first.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Good, more outrage from Xbox360 arcade owners.
Yeah, and that decision demonstrated to Nintendo how stupid it was and they never tried making people upgrade their console again.
bigtroyjon
Member
You need Gold to use the exact same part of the game as the install. There is no difference.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
I guess all three are prone to such "bullshit" from time to time. Who knew. Let's stop buying all consoles, and while we're at it, let's stop buying PCs as well cause you'll need to upgrade sooner or later.
Or let's accept the fact that if you want to keep seeing better experiences years after the launch, you may need to make additional investments, especially if you were stingy when buying the console. Or you can just ignore those few games.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Plus $6 for shipping lol
No you don't. Local splitscreen and LAN.
Quicksilver4648
Member
This doesn't really bother me as I have a 120GB HDD but I can see how this could be annoying to those with just a 20GB HDD. However, if you don't even have ANY hard drive then I don't feel too bad because most likely you weren't a 'core' gamer in the sense that you ever intended to buy Halo 4.
Also, I am okay with Microsoft having this hardware requirement. This will be the 7th. holiday season for the Xbox 360 and if this is what they need to do to keep ensuring the games get better (better textures/more content) then I am okay with it. The 9GB limit on disks is certainly an issue. My only question is: do I need to have a separate 8GB install if I always intended to just install the entire game to my hard drive regardless?
Also, I am okay with Microsoft having this hardware requirement. This will be the 7th. holiday season for the Xbox 360 and if this is what they need to do to keep ensuring the games get better (better textures/more content) then I am okay with it. The 9GB limit on disks is certainly an issue. My only question is: do I need to have a separate 8GB install if I always intended to just install the entire game to my hard drive regardless?
bigtroyjon
Member
Well, you need an extra controller to use splitscreen and extra 360's to use LAN so yeah, you have to pay extra to play multiplayer no matter what type.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
You mean like the MotionPlus? Btw why was the decision stupid? Did Majora's Mask not sell well? Did it get bad reviews?
BlackGhost
Banned
My 4gig is sad
Version 3.0
Member
Whoa, too bad for the 20GB HDD people - especially since the 20GB is really 13GB of usable space. I'd still have a 20 if my friend hadn't hacked in a 120 for me 'way back.
WickedLaharl
Member
Fine with me.
Even if I didn't have an HDD usb sticks are dirt fucking cheap nowadays.
Even if I didn't have an HDD usb sticks are dirt fucking cheap nowadays.
The time has come for me to upgrade for an Xbox 360 slim with the 250GB HDD. I'm still on the old 20GB drive and I don't even have 1GB of space left. I deleted a lot of stuff, but I just can't keep up any longer. Can't install the New Vegas DLC or the new endings for ME3. The time has come to ditch the old 360 (which is still running after 6 years) .
Ehhh they've been straying. Wii Motion Plus and Circle Pad Pro remind me of that old expansion pack. Not as exclusive but certainly potentially significant upgrades.
LittleJohnny
Banned
Starting... after 7 years... not bad. I think Blu-ray will be a lot more crucial for the upcoming gen but was't really needed for the current.
It would be shady bullshit if they did not let the consumer know prior to purchasing the hardware/software.
Sorry but you're being just a bit dramatic over something that isn't a big deal.
LittleJohnny
Banned
If I'm reading that correctly, it works with flash drives as well, just need to find one of those usb drives lying around somewhere, or just get a used one for 5 bucks lol
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001T99ZTI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
It's not ideal, but the actual gameplay experience will be much smoother as a result and some of the things we're doing are only possible with this requirement. I am surprised to hear you don't have a HDD Fyre, the numbers would suggest you're a very rare edge case - a serious Forge/Map creator with XBL and no HDD.
CamHostage
Member
Actually, the USB stick option seems an incredibly viable option (or does Microsoft only allow Xbox-brand memory?) I too am constantly fighting to find space on my hard drive, but USB memory is insanely cheap these days, and if all it takes is a swap of a $5 Best Buy throw-away stick (sure would be nice if MS had a package that included one, actually...) and I'm good to go even for insanely large installs, I'd be cool with that. It's finding space on the disc drive, even a massive disc drive (if you can afford one,) when I have all these games on there that I don't trust to delete and re-download, that's where you run into the growing pains of current console gaming.
Absolutely both. We have been clear on this since day one. Spartan Ops in particular will be delivering content to your Xbox via Live.
Let me be 100% clear, this is not an attempt to get you to upgrade to an HDD. The numbers affected are quite small and we went to significant effort to ensure this worked on a (relatively) cheap 8 Gig USB stick (and to the point in the post above, ANY stick that meets the speed and reliability minimums, absolutely NOT just MS branded media) for the odd case where someone had XBL and no storage. This is entirely in service of a good experience in the game.
No, I have an HDD. I didn't realize I had to be something to talk about why I don't like it.
I am an rare edge case though. A player that actually bought all of Reach's DLC.
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh snap!
batman2million
Member
No. At least you have the option to keep your game saves on the 360.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
The 4GB console is not marketed towards the hardcore players. Isn't it still branded "arcade?" It is meant for people playing mostly XBLA games.
If you are a hardcore player and bought a 4GB Xbox, that's your deal. There are better options available.
If you are a hardcore player and bought a 4GB Xbox, that's your deal. There are better options available.
Yeah, anyone who bought an Arcade thinking 4GB would support any core gaming is kind of sad...
Or just buy a new one, it's long due for an upgrade.
Azure Phoenix
Member
Animal Crossing, Pokemon Colosseum and Pokemon Box on the Gamecube all came with a free memory card due to the size of their save files.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
that's one way to get people to buy new hard drives. microsoft is going to be making a lot more money from Halo 4 than just Halo 4 sales.
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
guess ill skip on halo 4 then i only have the launch 360 drive and its pretty much full
This is completely retarded if it's actually what you're going to do.
popsicle_sundays
Member
Sounds good to me 
Quicksilver4648
Member
Seeing people make a big deal over needing a ~$10 flash drive seems to strange to me. If you never cared about Halo before then I doubt you would have bought Halo 4 so those are just empty threats. But, if you are a fan of the Halo series and WERE going to buy the game till you discovered you first needed to buy a $10 flash drive then I start to be confused.
You're personally attacking someone for not buying a game? Really?!
Psychoward
Banned
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And I thought BF3 was bad.
And I thought BF3 was bad.
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