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Shin Megami Tensei appreciation thread
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Green Biker Dude
Banned
I expected more, I can tell you that. It was just too short and almost nothing happened in it, there were other cutscenes with much more going on than the ending itself. When I beat a game I expect to have fancy cutscenes that make me feel like I accomplished something. With DDS1, it was basically "you beat the last boss, now buy our next game".Error2k4 said:
I'm liking it so far, I'm about to start theAvalon said:
Powerplant.
StorablePrawn
Banned
Just got DDS2. Finally. I'm going to restart DDS1 as soon as I finish playing through Devil Summoner for a review!
By the way: Devil Summoner = AMAZING. Battle system isn't incredible, but everything else about the game shows how a lower budget RPG can have so much more heart and charm than anything Squenix has ever released.
By the way: Devil Summoner = AMAZING. Battle system isn't incredible, but everything else about the game shows how a lower budget RPG can have so much more heart and charm than anything Squenix has ever released.
AgentOtaku
Member
shinokou said:
****ing awesome!
when is the expected US release again???
AgentOtaku
Member
Error2k4 said:October 10
dunno if Himuro is going to make the official thread but if he does... I hope he lets me do the P3 official thread
reading that Himuro?
wow, so soon?
fvcking day one purchases my biotches!
AgentOtaku
Member
Error2k4 said:
I've been really busy, so progress has been slow. But right now, I'm heading into the main tower since I just finished off Varin
....this game has me by the testies all the way
, I adore the story oh so muchwait till you play DDS2AgentOtaku said:I've been really busy, so progress has been slow. But right now, I'm heading into the main tower since I just finished off Varin
....this game has me by the testies all the way
imo DDS2>>>>>>>DDS1 in everything.
AgentOtaku
Member
never thought to ask, but since the release date for Raidou is coming up, is there anyword if the localization has a english dub ala DDS???
StorablePrawn
Banned
Error2k4 said:
So many people think just the opposite in this thread, and just as many agree with you. Which, for some reason, makes me so much more hyped for this game.
About Devil Summoner: using demons to manipulate NPCs into helping you get clues is such a damned good idea. Even though the battles aren't too difficult -- at least, not yet, as I haven't finished the game -- you still need to at least focus on having a diverse crew of demons to make the episodes go by smoothly.
whoever say DDS1 is better is just wrong, DDS1 feels like half a game imo of course while DDS2 feels more complete.
also the mantra system in DDS2 allows for far more freedom than the linear mantra system of DDS1.
dont get me wrong DDS1 rox, but DDS2 is much better imo.
also the mantra system in DDS2 allows for far more freedom than the linear mantra system of DDS1.
dont get me wrong DDS1 rox, but DDS2 is much better imo.
StorablePrawn
Banned
About the original Megami Tensei games (Famicom?)... are those worth giving a try? I'm a little leery...
nelsonroyale
Member
what is the song in this trailer to nocturne...really like it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFJnjH_pPVg
peace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFJnjH_pPVg
peace
StorablePrawn
Banned
The SNES games are awesome. I guess I'll go ahead and take the plunge into the NES series.
sorry for bumping this thread so much
some new Devil Summoner previews
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=37315&mode=thread&order=0
http://ps2.gamezone.com/gzreviews/p29764_2.htm
and looks like this is the final boxart
some new Devil Summoner previews
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=37315&mode=thread&order=0
http://ps2.gamezone.com/gzreviews/p29764_2.htm
and looks like this is the final boxart
DarknessTear
Banned
Why make a thread so early unless it's an anticipation thread
AgentOtaku
Member
Its been pretty much confirmed that there won't be any sorta extras with the Devil Summoner release huh?
....kinda dissapointing, but still a day 1 purchase
....kinda dissapointing, but still a day 1 purchase
AgentOtaku
Member
Ok, finished DDS1 this morning during my lunchbreak (..which made me late). I had ran into some difficutly and had to use a faq twice for the last two bosses, but other than that, the title was sure cocentrated awesome!
I mean, I played it for over 30 hours and still was getting the hang of the battle system, which kinda hurt me in the end fight because didn't have some essential mantras learned as well as I didn't feast as much as I should have early on in the game. Still, Look forward to applying everything I've learned to DDS2 and eventually...Nocturne!
Might take a quicky break and try Radiata Stories....
I mean, I played it for over 30 hours and still was getting the hang of the battle system, which kinda hurt me in the end fight because didn't have some essential mantras learned as well as I didn't feast as much as I should have early on in the game. Still, Look forward to applying everything I've learned to DDS2 and eventually...Nocturne!
Might take a quicky break and try Radiata Stories....
Egh...
DDS1 had something going for it. I mean, I was really addicted to the simplistic battle system for some reason. I think I just loved the leveling system. I loved the whole gang thing too, but all of a sudden the game ended and I didn't get any story.
I finished the first one so I had to give DDS2 a chance. The story greatly improved and had it's really high points. Then, out of no where, Japanese insanity reared it's ugly head and did the unthinkable. I know that you know what I'm talking about...
DDS1 = 6
DDS2 = 6.5
Those are decent scores for a harsh grader like myself. So cheer up, you DDS lovin' emos.
DDS1 had something going for it. I mean, I was really addicted to the simplistic battle system for some reason. I think I just loved the leveling system. I loved the whole gang thing too, but all of a sudden the game ended and I didn't get any story.
I finished the first one so I had to give DDS2 a chance. The story greatly improved and had it's really high points. Then, out of no where, Japanese insanity reared it's ugly head and did the unthinkable. I know that you know what I'm talking about...
DDS1 = 6
DDS2 = 6.5
Those are decent scores for a harsh grader like myself. So cheer up, you DDS lovin' emos.
AgentOtaku
Member
what hell, according to wikipedia, there's a Digital Devil Saga that has never been released in the US!?
....now I don't read Manga, but I sure would like to catch a peek of that...
....now I don't read Manga, but I sure would like to catch a peek of that...
hm some people wanted to see the true demon ending iirc.
some dude in Youtube posted it, but I prefered if he posted the whole fight the scene that goes before the fight, anyway here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEFeIJiPrwQ
some dude in Youtube posted it, but I prefered if he posted the whole fight the scene that goes before the fight, anyway here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEFeIJiPrwQ
so... I found this sweet ass site with lots of ****ing jawsome megaten art.
SMT1
SMT2
SMT3
I want a kaneko art book ;_;
here is the site
http://www.beyourtruemind.net/scans/
SMT1
SMT2
SMT3
I want a kaneko art book ;_;
here is the site
http://www.beyourtruemind.net/scans/
AgentOtaku
Member
awesome link, thanks
RedNumberFive
Banned
I picked up a copy of Shin Megami Tensei 1 & 2 for the Super Famicom a couple of months ago in Japan (as well as a crap-ton of ShinMegaTen figures). Can anyone point me to a site that sells a Super Famicom - to - SNES adapter? I haven't been able to find a site with one in stock, and the ones on eBay are few and far between.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Error2k4 said:
I suppose that would work as the pin sets are exactly the same and only the cartridge sizes are different. I'll give that a try. Thanks!
I visit the official Atlus USA board everyone once in a while. Mostly to dig up official upcoming release information and ask stupid question
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Recent, I walked into a topic I thought was pretty interesting. Basically, it was about some people feeling Megaten has stayed a bit too far from it's original path. Thing like demon conversation, extreme difficulty and overall dark atmosphere have been almost completely stripped out of of all the sub-series and in a lot of ways Nocturne only held onto very few traditional Megaten elements.
Essentially, they were saying after Cozy Okada left, Atlus R&D1 basically lost it's soul and is now only doing it for the money. All the new aspects are merely there to entice the casual gamers and now the series has basically become part of the giant wave of generic JRPGs.
I just wanted to see what the resident Megaten fans thought about the hole thing.
Link to the topic. -> http://p211.ezboard.com/fatlususadiscussionboardfrm22.showMessage?topicID=428.topic
(my replies are on the last page)
Does anyone know if Persona 3 has a widescreen option!?
Recent, I walked into a topic I thought was pretty interesting. Basically, it was about some people feeling Megaten has stayed a bit too far from it's original path. Thing like demon conversation, extreme difficulty and overall dark atmosphere have been almost completely stripped out of of all the sub-series and in a lot of ways Nocturne only held onto very few traditional Megaten elements.
Essentially, they were saying after Cozy Okada left, Atlus R&D1 basically lost it's soul and is now only doing it for the money. All the new aspects are merely there to entice the casual gamers and now the series has basically become part of the giant wave of generic JRPGs.
I just wanted to see what the resident Megaten fans thought about the hole thing.
Link to the topic. -> http://p211.ezboard.com/fatlususadiscussionboardfrm22.showMessage?topicID=428.topic
(my replies are on the last page)
It's funny you bring up the newer games enticing the more "casual" fans because five+ years ago, you were lucky to even find a place where you could find other fans of the Megami Tensei games and spinoffs. And not to mention that Atlus likes to market towards the type of gamers that will buy anything if it has "anime graphics" or something. But anyway.. well... this topic is proof of that "enticement" :lol but seriously, I agree that the games have lost something.
It's hard to describe, but like how the poster mentioned the dark feeling was missing a bit. Sure, you get that feeling with SMT III, but with DDS, Persona 3, and Devil Summoner 3, I didn't really get that feeling at all. I found it especially lacking in Persona 3. Even though the Persona games have always been a bit more "pop" like in terms of presentation and music, Persona 3 was even moreso. It was as if they tried too hard, and I didn't really care for it. I don't know.. I just miss the atmosphere of the earlier titles that focused on demon interaction and a modern setting.
I'm not saying I don't like the newer games, it's just that I always revisit where I thought R&D1 peaked with their designs. Back to the "roots" if you will. They just feel right and remind me of why I like the series.
It's hard to describe, but like how the poster mentioned the dark feeling was missing a bit. Sure, you get that feeling with SMT III, but with DDS, Persona 3, and Devil Summoner 3, I didn't really get that feeling at all. I found it especially lacking in Persona 3. Even though the Persona games have always been a bit more "pop" like in terms of presentation and music, Persona 3 was even moreso. It was as if they tried too hard, and I didn't really care for it. I don't know.. I just miss the atmosphere of the earlier titles that focused on demon interaction and a modern setting.
I'm not saying I don't like the newer games, it's just that I always revisit where I thought R&D1 peaked with their designs. Back to the "roots" if you will. They just feel right and remind me of why I like the series.
I really have no idea exactly how Atlus markets Megaten in Japan. I can certainly say that anime graphics was never a reason why I became interest in the series. All I knew when Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne was released was that it had ties to Persona series and had some killer gameplay and unique storytelling.
I played SMT I and II almost immediately after finishing Nocturne. I can agree that the games do not feel the same. There is a certain malicious quality that is only found in those two games. Right from the start (hell, at the very title screen) you are hit with so many dark undertones. It was really great.
I can't say I enjoyed SMT I/II more then the recent stuff or that the dark feeling was even a critical element. Persona being my first Megaten game probably played a role in that. For me, Megaten was always about great gameplay and that gritty mature storytelling.
Megaten was Japan's third largest RPG series at one point... Why were there lack of fans?
I played SMT I and II almost immediately after finishing Nocturne. I can agree that the games do not feel the same. There is a certain malicious quality that is only found in those two games. Right from the start (hell, at the very title screen) you are hit with so many dark undertones. It was really great.
I can't say I enjoyed SMT I/II more then the recent stuff or that the dark feeling was even a critical element. Persona being my first Megaten game probably played a role in that. For me, Megaten was always about great gameplay and that gritty mature storytelling.
MegaTen said:
Megaten was Japan's third largest RPG series at one point... Why were there lack of fans?