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The Eye of Judgment - The Official Thread
- Thread starter Wollan
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I fear I'm on a collision course to buy this game and then proceed to feel absolutely uncomfortable playing it when my wife wanders into the room. None of you guys should accept invitations to play online with me...I'm liable to sweep everything off the coffee table the moment I hear footsteps in the other room. :lol
Does the EU version come in a box or does it have the same plastic package? I'm guessing you can't say yet.
Anyways, the game is threading new ground and it's also smartly avoiding certain traps (cheating, animation on/off). From what you've described from the online it sounds really rich.
Anyways, the game is threading new ground and it's also smartly avoiding certain traps (cheating, animation on/off). From what you've described from the online it sounds really rich.
Wollan said:
But still... One fucking hundred euros. In comparison, the US version costs half that with taxes and all. I just dont get it. Does it came with two PlayStation Eye and 120 cards? WTH.
I'm pretty sure game is going to fail in EU sales wise. This CCG stuff is mostly for kids right? I mean, I see them playing cards all day. I just can't see any of them (or their parents) spending 100 Euros for this. And 399 on top of that if they dont have a PS3. Game is sent to die in Europe.
Yeah. A bit absurd.
There will be a small and very hardcore group of folks though that will find this to be a console seller all on it's own.
Higher then one point detracted for value seems too much (after all, one could call the US version underpriced, it's not like the EU version is 'bad value' if it only came out over here).
There will be a small and very hardcore group of folks though that will find this to be a console seller all on it's own.
Higher then one point detracted for value seems too much (after all, one could call the US version underpriced, it's not like the EU version is 'bad value' if it only came out over here).
TTP said:Yep. Should I detract a copule of points from the score conisdering the 100 price tag? I'm puzzled as to why this game costs so much here.
What the hell?
It should cost 10 more than a normal game like America.
If it's more than £60 I'm not buying it... till it gets cheaper.
TTP said:Yep. Should I detract a copule of points from the score conisdering the 100 price tag? I'm puzzled as to why this game costs so much here.
Cool, I'll go see if I can get my mitts on a reviewcopy then
And yes, I think the price is a point of consideration for the reviewscore.
Phife Dawg
Member
It's mostly kids but there seems to be a small adult fanbase. At least judging from my favourite book/comicstore - there's always lots of kids at the TCG tables and the odd adult trading cards and playing games - they might be child molesters though.TTP said:
But I agree, the pricing is strange, it's in-line though with the recent first party prices (71,95 RRP here in Germany).
Timmah said:
Waiting a reply about this.
Bundles are coming to Germany (as well as UK and AU) as far as I know. This might be an indication the game will be localized.
NOTE: This does NOT include the PS3. It's named bundle on the press disc, but it's actually the game package. I wonder if the high price tag depends on that. And the localization...
Phife Dawg
Member
I was never into card games. Don't know if they still play Magic or other card games. From the glimpses I saw there also seems to be popular manga-based TCGs. It definetly seems not like back in the days when I was still role-playing and Magic was the big rage. You may be right and the Magic fanbase is mostly adults but I guess they wouldn't hang out in a comic/bookstore to play and trade.Wollan said:
TTP said:Waiting a reply about this.
Bundles are coming to Germany (as well as UK and AU) as far as I know. This might be an indication the game will be localized.
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NOTE: This does NOT include the PS3. It's named bundle on the press disc, but it's actually the game package. I wonder if the high price tag depends on that. And the localization...
Compared to the cheap blister-pack the US is getting, I'd say, yeah, the high price is (partly) because of the packing.
And this in game localised in German will be hilarious. (I remember Drake's Schicksal :lol)
Valkyr Junkie
Member
Wollan said:
better
Phife Dawg
Member
I searched but couldn't find anything, sorry.Timmah said:
Did find the first magazine review score though:
play³ 11/07
Grafik 79% (gfx)
Sound 65%
Multiplayer 84%
Spielspass 80% (hard to translate, fun-factor or something along the lines, basically overall score)
Release date: 24.10.2007
It's 12 at both side, if I'm not mistaken... Hence the 2^24DrXym said:
I have a production card, and I've seen the actual game at TGS, this has not changed. The strange graphics have no meaning, the resolution of the camera is too low to do anything efficient on this (beside, if they used this, the contrast on it would be higher, it's low because they have to avoid it).
Besides this, I agree...
I really hope so, but it's a complex task, especially since you can trade your cards. The only sure way to detect fraud is using unique ID on some cards and see two players using them online *at the same time*. And you'll only find which one is the cheater if it happens often.
(strange thing is I'm mostly interested in the game to fully understand how their protection/detection scheme works, I like CCG and play them online sometimes, but the whole "augmented reality" thing doesn't appeal to me, and slow down the gameplay a lot).
AranhaHunter
Banned
TTP said:
Not really what? You can or you cannot play without the PS3?
Phife Dawg
Member
"Prepare your Feuerdrachen!" Would be the correct grammatical use, although mixing english and german makes this kind of hard to judge.neorej said:
You could just import the UK version from Play or Blahdvd. If you're working I guess you have a CC. Takes some time for shipping (3 days usually) but should be cheaper as well.Timmah said:
For real? Man I should've started when the whole movement began :lol .MoxManiac said:
krypt0nian
Banned
AranhaHunter said:
You can. You'd just need health/mana counters since damage to monsters is cumulative.
krypt0nian said:
That's not only that. There are a shitload of variables to keep track of. Not just damage, but attributes relative to the field, creatures positioning and much more.
Add this
Partmole Flame Guard - add 2 to it's attacks if at least one target creature is on the water field
to this
Monk Elder of Okunda - All allied creatures on adiacent fields gain a dodge attempt
and this
Green lycanthrope - When summoned, half of the time add 3 to its HP and 2 to its Attack
and this
Verzar Elephant Brigade (desert creature) - Must use its secondary attack while on an Earth field. While on Earth field allied creatures on adiacient field add 2 to their Attack nad 1 to their Activation Cost
and this
Triceptaur Behemoth - When attacks 2 creatures, subtract 2 from it's Attack. When attacking 3 creatures, subtract 4 from his Attack
and this
Infernal Sciondar Dragon - Its attack is equal to 5 plus the number of fire creatures (friend or foe) on the board. While ISD is on the Fire filed, it's activation cost to attack is 3 less than listed.
and this
Great Tolicore Quake - Fieldquake (aka flip to change element) all fields of a chosen element
and this
Moving Isle of Kadena (water creature) - if summoned on non-water field steal mana from opponent equal to number of water fields.
and this
Leapfrog Bandit (wood creature) - if destroyed on a non-Wood fieldm ur opponent must discard 1 card
and you can see how it might get a little difficult to keep track of all this stuff without a CPU "watching" you.
crowphoenix
Banned
I am very, very interested in this.
No no no no no. Evaluate what the game offers to you. Mention and complain about the price if you think you have to (and you probably do have to, 100€ ouch!).TTP said:
Fun trivia: if a game drops to half its initial price after three months, do you change the score? Thought so.
Seems like November 2nd is the date.borghe said:
Ynos Yrros said:
You, sir or lady, are an idiot.
I've been called a PS3 fanboy and being accused of being bribed because I rated Resistance a 9 and MotorStorm an 8 on the site I write for. I rated Warhawk a 9 too. Super Stardust HD also.
What is your problem? Am I not allowed to also dislike PS3-games? I own a debug, I think it's a fantastic machine, I'm more fan of it than 360 and Wii combined. But I sometimes have a negative opinion too about PS3-games.
Ratchet & Clank is great btw. I'm amazed after the first 3 worlds.
Didn't play EoJ since my last post, too busy with LocoRoco Cocoreccho (great!), Folklore (mixed) and Ratchet & Clank (great!).
crazygambit
Member
On the whole copy protection issue I read that their aim was to make it hard enough for people to just xerox the cards, but probably with enough time and dedication the protection could be broken.
I disagree with most of you that it would ruin the game though. I honestly couldn't care less if my oponent has real cards or not. The game still won't let you make a valid deck with more repeats cards if they're fake (it was 4 in MTG don't know how many in this one) and really the only thing standing between you and your dream deck is money. Even if they have access to all the cards available they have to be ablle to build a competitive 30 card deck. I'm reasurred there should be no cheating while playing though since their solution while not very elegant pretty much assures you there's no funny business going on.
I saw there was a training option in online play, it'd be tremendously helpful if they let you play with placeholder cards in those modes. See when you're preparing for a tournament you wanna fine tune your deck playing against the decks you're likely to find there. But you don't want to MAKE those decks, so placeholder cards are used (those are obviously not allowed in a tournament). It would be really sweet if they let you do this in this game. So you can try a deck and see how it would work before you commit to making it for real online play.
Also we should make some GAF tournament once the game hits. They can be theme tournaments to add more fun or with certaing restrictions like an all common deck or one that has the same amount of rares and uncommons as the theme decks sold. It's fun that way because it's a more level field and the differentiating factor is skill and not as much the amount of cards you have.
I disagree with most of you that it would ruin the game though. I honestly couldn't care less if my oponent has real cards or not. The game still won't let you make a valid deck with more repeats cards if they're fake (it was 4 in MTG don't know how many in this one) and really the only thing standing between you and your dream deck is money. Even if they have access to all the cards available they have to be ablle to build a competitive 30 card deck. I'm reasurred there should be no cheating while playing though since their solution while not very elegant pretty much assures you there's no funny business going on.
I saw there was a training option in online play, it'd be tremendously helpful if they let you play with placeholder cards in those modes. See when you're preparing for a tournament you wanna fine tune your deck playing against the decks you're likely to find there. But you don't want to MAKE those decks, so placeholder cards are used (those are obviously not allowed in a tournament). It would be really sweet if they let you do this in this game. So you can try a deck and see how it would work before you commit to making it for real online play.
Also we should make some GAF tournament once the game hits. They can be theme tournaments to add more fun or with certaing restrictions like an all common deck or one that has the same amount of rares and uncommons as the theme decks sold. It's fun that way because it's a more level field and the differentiating factor is skill and not as much the amount of cards you have.
No big reason for clan support as you play 1 versus 1.
The game has a ton of online features though.
I already got the game pre-ordered (the only game I have pre-ordered).
The game has a ton of online features though.
I already got the game pre-ordered (the only game I have pre-ordered).
copy protection is really only a small part of "protecting" the game. a more important aspect is with the rules themselves. I mean sure it's cheating to go and copy the most powerful card in the game 5 times and load up your deck, but does that really suck any more than losing against some suburban kiddie whose mom bought him 5 of that card legit off of ebay? I mean you can build a really killer Yu-gi deck right now for under $100.
The key will be to keep the rules balanced. Star Wars by Decipher for example only allowed you to have one of any unique in your deck at a time. So you couldn't throw 5 Darth Vaders in there. Sure it would suck if an opponent had vader, tarkin, vaders saber, vaders tie, the executor and the death star all out at the same time, but again it really doesn't suck any more or less if they are legit, fake, found in packs or bought off of ebay.
o a slightly unrelated note.... the $400 PS3 pack rumored for $400 is making this very tempting. $400 plus 5 BRD movies and this seems like a pretty fair purchase......
The key will be to keep the rules balanced. Star Wars by Decipher for example only allowed you to have one of any unique in your deck at a time. So you couldn't throw 5 Darth Vaders in there. Sure it would suck if an opponent had vader, tarkin, vaders saber, vaders tie, the executor and the death star all out at the same time, but again it really doesn't suck any more or less if they are legit, fake, found in packs or bought off of ebay.
o a slightly unrelated note.... the $400 PS3 pack rumored for $400 is making this very tempting. $400 plus 5 BRD movies and this seems like a pretty fair purchase......
Lonesome_Raod
Member
I got lucky with this. A UK website had it up for £34.99 months back for preorder. So I did on the off chance it might go up. And whaddya know, it's now £59.99. So I lucked out.