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FILTH (James McAvoy, from Trainspotting author Irvine Welsh)

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Agent Dormer

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That's a well-cut trailer for the film and a nice poster to boot. Making sure people see the "Red Band" version to entice them to see the flick will be their marketing challenge.
 
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daviyoung

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I fucking hate Jim Broadbent.

And the director/writer of this hasn't exactly had a great career so far.

Cautiously optimistic. Will probably turn out like Layer Cake.
 
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OfWhiteSkinOnRedLeather

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daviyoung said:
I fucking hate Jim Broadbent.

And the director/writer of this hasn't exactly had a great career so far.

Cautiously optimistic. Will probably turn out like Layer Cake.
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Jon S. Baird has written two other films, only one of which has become a completed film so far. Give dude a chance. Plus, according to Wikipedia, Irvine Welsh co-wrote the script, so if that's true, it'll probably turn out just fine.
 
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OverBlood 3

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Looks like they're trying way too hard just seems so forced I could see Limmy taking the piss out of the "Bingoo" part. Mind you most trailers are shite so it could actually be good.
 
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daviyoung

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eLZhi said:
Jon S. Baird has written two other films, only one of which has become a completed film so far. Give dude a chance. Plus, according to Wikipedia, Irvine Welsh co-wrote the script, so if that's true, it'll probably turn out just fine.
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Cass was ok but forgettable.
 
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Mr. Sam

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Napoleonthechimp

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I saw this today. I wasn't familiar with the book so
I was really hoping he'd live at the end... poor guy. There was obviously something terribly wrong with him - medically speaking - and I didn't want it to end that way
.
 
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noobasuar

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Is the book as difficult to read as trainspotting? I had some trouble knowing wtf was going on during some parts....
 
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Cerebral Assassin

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noobasuar said:
Is the book as difficult to read as trainspotting? I had some trouble knowing wtf was going on during some parts....
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This is much harder to read due to
the tapeworm "eating" bits of the book
, & if I remember correctly it is still written in Glaswegian so it's probably going to be tricky for you. You could try Porno (the Trainspotting "sequel" ) I think the accents aren't as strong in that.
 
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Messofanego

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Just came back from it. At points, the Scottish accents were getting a bit thick and wanted subtitles :p Was a tough, suffocating watch.

Yeah, it's kinda like a Scottish Bad Lieutenant as you can gather from trailers. He's a bipolar schizophrenic and fucked up hedonist. James McAvoy is a delight to watch with his extreme mood changes and winks to the audience. There are plenty of camera close-ups to give a claustrophobic feel. The rest of the cast are spot-on, especially Jim Broadbent as an all-knowing, creepy doctor. Although, the lens is placed not on his despicable actions but rather what's going on inside. The first half is a hilarious and rollicking good time of Bruce fucking over everyone to get his promotion. The second half is bringing his darkest desires and repressed issues to the light of day.

It's a masculine world being shattered, piece by racist/homophobic/misogynistic piece. It ends with a good message about how to become a good person (and a brilliant animated credits sequence), but I had to breathe a sigh of relief because I didn't want to be in that world any more.

That's just my take from it, now to see Kermode's opinion...and actually read the book.
 
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Messofanego said:
Just came back from it. At points, the Scottish accents were getting a bit thick and wanted subtitles :p Was a tough, suffocating watch.

Yeah, it's kinda like a Scottish Bad Lieutenant as you can gather from trailers. He's a bipolar schizophrenic and fucked up hedonist. James McAvoy is a delight to watch with his extreme mood changes and winks to the audience. There are plenty of camera close-ups to give a claustrophobic feel. The rest of the cast are spot-on, especially Jim Broadbent as an all-knowing, creepy doctor. Although, the lens is placed not on his despicable actions but rather what's going on inside. The first half is a hilarious and rollicking good time of Bruce fucking over everyone to get his promotion. The second half is bringing his darkest desires and repressed issues to the light of day.

It's a masculine world being shattered, piece by racist/homophobic/misogynistic piece. It ends with a good message about how to become a good person (and a brilliant animated credits sequence), but I had to breathe a sigh of relief because I didn't want to be in that world any more.

That's just my take from it, now to see Kermode's opinion...and actually read the book.
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Thanks for the great review, you are telling me everything I want to hear about this movie. Will definitely see it now.
 
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Donos

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Saw it yesterday. Came up in a sneak preview (Berlin, Germany) so i had to watch it with the german dub. The moment i knew it would be Filth i cheered. The trailer got me really interested especially for McAvoy.Outstanding performance from McAvoy. His expressions and his fucked up look where just awesome to watch. Nice ending. The friend i watched it with didn't know what to say to the movie. She was a little put of by the tone.

Also i think the German Title is badly translated/choosen.German title is"Drecksau" like filthy swine / dirty skunk. Although i just saw that "the filth" it's used as a term for cops in britain and people also call cops pigs so it maybe fits.

Didn't know that there is a book. Maybe going to grab it although my book backlog is pretty big already.
 
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jimbor

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Messofanego said:
Just came back from it. At points, the Scottish accents were getting a bit thick and wanted subtitles :p Was a tough, suffocating watch.

Yeah, it's kinda like a Scottish Bad Lieutenant as you can gather from trailers. He's a bipolar schizophrenic and fucked up hedonist. James McAvoy is a delight to watch with his extreme mood changes and winks to the audience. There are plenty of camera close-ups to give a claustrophobic feel. The rest of the cast are spot-on, especially Jim Broadbent as an all-knowing, creepy doctor. Although, the lens is placed not on his despicable actions but rather what's going on inside. The first half is a hilarious and rollicking good time of Bruce fucking over everyone to get his promotion. The second half is bringing his darkest desires and repressed issues to the light of day.

It's a masculine world being shattered, piece by racist/homophobic/misogynistic piece. It ends with a good message about how to become a good person (and a brilliant animated credits sequence), but I had to breathe a sigh of relief because I didn't want to be in that world any more.

That's just my take from it, now to see Kermode's opinion...and actually read the book.
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Did the film have the Frank Sidebottom impersonations?
 
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Cindres

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This movie and thread needs more attention. Just went to see it last night and holy crap that was a lot to take in.
I haven't read the book so I was going in almost totally blind aside from the trailer and a little bit my mate told me, primarily he was also wondering how they'd pull of the
tapeworm
stuff.

Started off just plain funny and a bit fucked up, but descended into a total mindfuck and at times became very uncomfortable to watch (though I definitely don't mean this in a bad way, it was just a hard watch). It definitely felt like longer than an hour and a half, but man what a ride. I'm recommending it to just about everyone I know.
EDIT: Well, maybe not EVERYONE :p
 
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Busty

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I know people who worked on this so I really do have to make the effort to go and see it.

I've heard good things and I like McAvoy's work so I am confident it should be interesting at the very least.
 
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PumpkinPie

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I've just been to see Filth. I went in without expectations and was very pleasantly surprised at what turned out to be an excellent film. It was really funny but still managed to be tear-jerking at times too.
 
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haikira

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Saw this last night and it's one of my favourites of the year. Unlike some critics, I didn't find the oppresive nature of the film too overbearing, as there was still a lot of comedic relief. As everyone's already mentioned, McAvoy is amazing in this. Not only does he nail the unhinged and psychotic side of the character, I found myself nearly in tears any time you see under Bruce's shell. The rest of the cast were great too and I especially liked Eddie Marsan.

It's worth mentioning, I haven't read the book. Though I'm definitely going to fix that very soon.
 
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haikira

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Like I said, I haven't read the book, but I'll try my best to answer these.



Count Dookkake said:
Also wondering if they kept the photocopy scene and the
PSYCHO twist
.

Not entirely sure how they'd pull off the latter.
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Major Spoilers
If by psycho twist, you mean the scenes of his wife having actually been him dressed up as her, that's still in.

Spayro said:
So.. anyone who saw the movie AND read the book can tell us how they pull off the
tapeworm
?
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He has visions/nightmares of Dr. Rossi talking to him and berating him over his past. There's an allusion to it all being something to do with a tapeworm however, with paintings on the wall and illusions.
 
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Peco

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Should I read the book first?
I have the feeling that I'll enjoy the movie more if I go in completely 'blind'.
 
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SKINNER!

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Just got back from watching this and it kept me entertained. McAvoy gave a fantastic preformance. Worth checking out if you have the spare time to catch it in the cinema.
 
Mohonky

Mohonky

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This book is fucking unreal, loved it. I usually get bored of books and never finish them, read filth 3 times.
 
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Guerrillas in the Mist

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Having never read the book, I thoroughly enjoyed it. The final shot and the credits are probably among the best I've seen in a movie in the last couple of years.

Minor spoilers:
Bruce's hallucinogenic flashes scared the shit out of me at times.
 
Mohonky

Mohonky

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Man hearing what people are saying about the film sounds like they nailed the books tone, that being hard to watch, a world of a character so fucked up it's hard to stay in...any reports from people that have read the book before watching?
 
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ThoseDeafMutes

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Just saw this. Weird ass movie.

The film was most enjoyable when it was having fun, usually with McAvoy sabotaging his colleagues chances in various ways. I'd say it had moments of greatness even. But the psychological stuff dragged and the ending unraveled over too long a time. I don't mean that the runtime was too long or anything, I just mean that what was going on became very obvious very quickly, but they still played it and made it more explicit at a snails pace. The twist didn't have nearly as much impact as the author probably thought it would, although it was certainly succeeding in being supremely weird. My friend and I turned and shrugged our shoulders at several points in the movie. I don't know how I feel about it overall. It was ok, but not a classic, I suppose.
 
Mohonky

Mohonky

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ThoseDeafMutes said:
Just saw this. Weird ass movie.

The film was most enjoyable when it was having fun, usually with McAvoy sabotaging his colleagues chances in various ways. I'd say it had moments of greatness even. But the psychological stuff dragged and the ending unraveled over too long a time. I don't mean that the runtime was too long or anything, I just mean that what was going on became very obvious very quickly, but they still played it and made it more explicit at a snails pace. The twist didn't have nearly as much impact as the author probably thought it would, although it was certainly succeeding in being supremely weird. My friend and I turned and shrugged our shoulders at several points in the movie. I don't know how I feel about it overall. It was ok, but not a classic, I suppose.
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I just saw this film, I read the book many years ago so I maybe rusty on the details of all the things they changed but I have to say over all, so disappointed. One of the reasons being what you quoted.

Spoilers from movie AND BOOK

With them always showing Davey in his hallucinations it was just obvious there was some shit he had never dealt with from the past. Bringing that up early on in the movie ruined the revelation behind Bruces distrust and reluctance to accept or connect with anyone else. The front end of the book is basically the adventures of captain cunt and his non-stop efforts to fuck everyone around him. He was also a far bigger prick in the book. It wasn't until the end that the book went into the back story of how Bruce came to be the way he was; having it sort of thrown around throughout the movie from the start just took the impact of all that away. Even then, they skipped some really big ones there, the first love with the gummy leg and I think more importantly; the fact his Mum was raped and he was conceived of that crime and as such always being treated like a burden and the animosity and hatred of what happen to his mother was often channelled at him, especially after his little Brother dies.

Then of course there is the fact that at the start of the book it's him that commits the murder, and it's a random black guy he kills with a claw hammer to the head in a fit of rage at knowing his ex-wife is dating a black guy.

I know they had to make some changes but they sort of took the real 'kick' out of the book imo. There was too much 'oh you should feel sorry for him because some thing obviously isn't quite right with him' through out the whole movie, when the book doesn't really suggest anything other than he's a right cunt until the very end and because of that it makes you go back and really challenge how you feel about the character.

I don't know, I think the movie just didn't have the same impact as the book.
 
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