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DS4 thumb sticks might have a problem?
- Thread starter EightBitNate
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MarshMellow96
Member
I hadn't managed to find any photos of one. Dammit..
Outside of the stick rubber, I would suggest you get a thin towel, dampen the edge, and go to town of the base of the stick and the place where it and the casing of the controller meet. The DS4 is one of the most frictionless beast I've ever held and to keep it that way I do that procedure on both sticks once ever 2-3 days.Yeah, I imagine most of us having this problem push up on the stick like myself (told you I'm a nail biter)
HawksWinStanley
Member
Well, looks like my left stick is starting the surprisingly rapid deterioration process. No nachos here.
At $60 a pop this is unacceptable. I think the guy on the previous page was onto something with the thumb placement theory. We should get a poll going to see if there's a correlation.
cpp_is_king
Member
I hold my thumb right smack in the middle of the concave area, so no. I think it's a problem with specific fingers, not the way people are holding it.
Fried Food
Banned
Yeah, I imagine most of us having this problem push up on the stick like myself (told you I'm a nail biter)
That puts pressure right on the edge where most of the flaking is happening. I would guess it's also mostly on the left stick because aiming on the right stick is mostly left and right movement, and even then you're usually not pushing in one direction for long when aiming.
Thats how I end up using it. You pretty much have to use it that way. It feels bad to keep your finger on the center of the stick when pressing it forward
Duxxy3
Member
I think this is also why DS3 took longer to wear down.
With that controller, in that position, your thumb took up a lot of space, and pressure was more evenly spread out.
With the DS4 you're basically just pushing on the bottom left rim, and that's why it is consistently the bottom left that gets worn down before anything else.
I don't play like this at all, and it's happening to mine. It's a matter of friction on a poor choice of rubber, that's all it is. Nothing to really figure out, no theories to be made. It's not gross people, it's not sandpaper, it's not skin oils, it's friction.
cpp_is_king
Member
If your theory is correct, then I assume we should see it happening to basically everyone after a week or so?
Not necassarily, there are varying degrees of friction. so yeah playstyle does have an affect, but it's not where you hold it or w/e, it's just a matter of how much force you apply to the stick. There's no defect on the left stick, there's no reaction to skin oils, there's no conspiracy, it's as simple as the rubber being prone to friction. It'll need some sort of coat over it in future iterations.
AllBusinessJr
Member
So you're dispelling the 'bad batch theory' with what evidence again?
cpp_is_king
Member
Well I'm dispelling it on the grounds that it's happened with 2/2 of the controllers I've used. This isn't being reported on mainstream sites at all, and this NeoGAF thread is really the only mention I can find of it anywhere. So I don't think it's very common. For me to have 2 controllers from the same bad batch (especially considering that one of them came with the PS4 itself, and one was from a $60 boxed DS4, which were almost certainly not produced in the same batch or even remotely near the same time) is pretty damned unlikely.
It'd be nice if it were just a bad batch, but I don't think that's the case. I wouldn't be surprised if this starts cropping up more and more as time goes on. Kind of like Nintendo's reaction to Wii's remote slippage. They'll end up sending out new stick covers or something (like Nintendo did with grips and attachments).
Lol, that's not a solution. That is handicapping yourself on every game. Sony needs to fix this shizzle ASAP because it's not acceptable.
EightBitNate
Member
Forgot to add my pic.
FUCKING INBRED!!! CLEAN YOUR FUCKING SHIT!!!
I hope you mean not for me right? Cause that's just how I naturally play. For other people, yeah, that might be a problem. Sony will probably get on it when it comes to future iterations. Not the current ones though. I imagine the process of replacing the sticks isnt' too bad for them.
What? That's not that bad... Maybe he forgot to blow on it before he snapped a shot.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
This is definitely an issue and will pretty much affect everyone at some point, sooner rather than later considering it took all of 3 days for it to happen to me.
Hope Sony does something about it. Really unacceptable for this to have not been noticed given how long the controller has been finished.
Hope Sony does something about it. Really unacceptable for this to have not been noticed given how long the controller has been finished.
How did you deal with it?
oconnomiyaki
Member
Remind me to send you a PM with my Wii U controller.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
I mean, I've played it a lot since I've gotten it. At least 24 hours worth or so.
But I haven't handled it any differently than my DS3...it's not like I'm actively digging into it.
The material is just rubbing off over time. It's a problem with the stick's material.
I meant like did u send it back?
Pyramid head
Banned
The rubber used on the DS4 sticks definitely feels much softer than any other sticks I've ever used and although they do have a nice feeling grip, much like soft tires provide better grip, they will also wear down more quickly. That just seems like the trade off one would expect from the material. It probably wasn't a good idea to use this particular rubber for the controller.
Iced_Eagle
Member
2 hours with the controller and I noticed the material is flaking onto my thumb. Nothing visibly wrong on the controller, but I doubt its going to be long before it starts to show wear and tear. 
Knack on hard is a bitch btw.
Knack on hard is a bitch btw.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Seems like a similar issue to the razer pad. Maybe the soft squidgy thing can't handle normal thumb oozing.
Hmm. A lot of people seem to be having problems with all parts of the analog sticks. Both the outside parts and inside parts.
Others aren't reporting problems even after using their DS4s like animals with cheeto fingers and stuff.
It might be a quality control issue on the manufacturing side.
Others aren't reporting problems even after using their DS4s like animals with cheeto fingers and stuff.
It might be a quality control issue on the manufacturing side.
Scofield94941
Member
my R1 button is sticking. I havent played ps4 that much either. Battlefield 4 is not helping with R1 being tag the enemy. Anyone else have the sticking problem?
I've had this problem twice, and am returning the second controller for good--until they fix the issue. Dark Souls(PC version) is a bitch on the r1 button. These pads are weak as hell.
matty2Dfraud
Banned
Just played 2 hours of Resogun and my left analog stick is starting to fall apart. Probably 4 hours total playtime on the controller.
Good thing I haven't opened the extra controller I picked up. Think I'll return it and wait for Sony to sort out these issues.
Good thing I haven't opened the extra controller I picked up. Think I'll return it and wait for Sony to sort out these issues.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
This doesn't look very good, guys. I think this might be another reason for me to wait until next year before picking up a PS4 (I was already considering that, since I'm not all that interested in any of the launch games beyond Resogun and maybe Killzone).
Ouch. I was expecting it to take weeks before we started seeing stuff like this out in the wild, if it happened on a widespread basis at all. A quick inspection of mine shows that the sticks are still fine, but I probably haven't played as much as the people with controllers showing issues.
Sony have been remarkably customer-friendly in the leadup to launch. Hopefully that continues post-launch and they make this right.
Sony have been remarkably customer-friendly in the leadup to launch. Hopefully that continues post-launch and they make this right.
Captain Tuttle
Member
Any main stream sites picked this up yet? Seems like this is a legitimate issue
my brother and i have been hammering on our DS4's since release date...HOURS every day so far...neither controller shows even the slightest sign of wear to either stick...
LittleJohnny
Banned
I rather not have to deal with warranties. I still have my original 360 and PS3 controllers, and although the rubber looks worn if you look at them closely, they still work perfectly, that's 7-8 years of use!! I can't even calculate the hours and we're talking about a few weeks for the DS4's. They should be able to hold the abuse even if they were played hard.
Do we have any stories on Sony's research and development for the controller? I hope they invested enough on testing. When I heard MS spend 100 million on the One controllers I thought that figure was ridiculous. I wonder how much Sony invested.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/423871/features/the-100m-story-behind-the-xbox-one-controller/
Then it might be a manufacturing process issue. Maybe certain controller batches have the issue and others do not. Maybe some controllers have a slightly different, or thinner compound or something, or were made at a different temperature or something else. I guess we'll know soon enough.
To the people having issues, does your controller have a manufacturing date or stamp? To the people not having issues, please post yours too.
Wow, this actually seems to be a serious issue.
I hope this is resolved when I buy a PS4 in 2014.
But for early adopters it really sucks.
I hope this is resolved when I buy a PS4 in 2014.
But for early adopters it really sucks.
The rubber material here looks extremely cheap, like rubber crumbs glued together. Hopefully it's only a bad batch.Just played 2 hours of Resogun and my left analog stick is starting to fall apart. Probably 4 hours total playtime on the controller.
Good thing I haven't opened the extra controller I picked up. Think I'll return it and wait for Sony to sort out these issues.
This is terrible. Bad QA. I'm really disappointed with the build quality after hearing about the doa consoles and now the sticks.
I usually think Sony hardware is pretty good but the common occurrence of this particular problem doesn't leave me with much confidence. I'm going to hold off purchasing until maybe mid or late next year.
I usually think Sony hardware is pretty good but the common occurrence of this particular problem doesn't leave me with much confidence. I'm going to hold off purchasing until maybe mid or late next year.
cjtiger300
Member
We talked about this in Party Chat the other night. There were 5 of us in the channel and not one of us have this issue. Hell, 3 have used the controller for over 50 hours now and have no symptoms of this issue.
Its likely a bad batch of rubber.
Nikodemos
Member
Probably a new chemical formula, too.
what are you talking about??...Sony has already sold over 1 million consoles...to have a 1% failure rate there would need to be 10,000 dead consoles...its not even close to that...and even if it was 1% is WELL within accepted failure rates for consumer electronics...
there are even MORE DS4's out there in the wild and NOBODY is picking up on this story outside of GAF...none of the major outlets seem to have problems with any of their controllers that they have mentioned..