ratcliffja
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Yeah the GG movement is pretty corrupt, I agree.
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SXSW cancels a panel on "Overcoming Harassment in Games" due to threats of violence
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Deleted member 126221
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Source please.
EDIT: Just to save us some time, game reviewers being friends and exchanging e-mails is not "widespread corruption".
partyphone
Banned
how does this keep happening? it's been more than a year!
VibratingDonkey
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https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=from:@PixelMetal+@TheQuinnspiracy&src=typdthe above pdf said:
https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/658837044362387457
It's always like this with these Gamergate aligned sites. Or, you know, Gamergate in general.
Dreadx_Jecht
Banned
Those asking for citation. Deepfreeze. It
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Deleted member 126221
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LOL. Try again.
partyphone
Banned
the gamergate run site that totally isn't biased at all? are you for real? this is a work, isn't it?
LOL at this tool.
"Nobody cares about Zoe Quinn in Gamergate" Proceeds to make 46 tweets at her with various attempts to call her a whore.
Dreadx_Jecht
Banned
As defensive as some of you guys are getting with this one would think some of you can't deal with dissenting opinions about the state of games media. Isn't that what free speech in an open forum is about?
Allow me to counter that citation with this citation.
*unfolds a piece of crumpled paper from his pocket*
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
One day you'll look back on this and laugh
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Deleted member 126221
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It really is like arguing about shapeshifting reptilians or chemtrails and being linked to a shady conspirationist wiki as the ultimate autority on the subject... This sub-culture is frightening.
What does the veracity of information has to do with free speech?? You can say all the shit you what, that doesn't make it automatically true.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Aaronrules380
Member
People are free to say whatever they want, as long as it doesn't go against their interests/tastes
Edit: didn't realiZe this guy supported gg
Dreadx_Jecht
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And what sites would you consider unbiased? The ones being called out? I'm sure they would be happy to give honest criticism of themselves and hold themselves accountable.
Yes, but you better come with a stronger game than the equivalent of "If you wanna know why liberals are so terrible, go to AlexJones.com"
Because that shit is literally gifrepost.swf laughable.
partyphone
Banned
Interesting. you don't normally think of buzzfeed going to bat for issues like this.
surely this particular user is actually unaware of the state of gamergate discourse on this site. surely they're not just deliberately going about the process of getting themself banned so they can enjoy some notoriety on reddit/voat/8chan, like the hundreds of banned gaters of threads past.
We're just criticizing those opinions. We're not sending in a threat of violence.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Which one of these women beloved by Gamergate is a journalist
Anita Sarkeesian
Zoe Quinn
Brianna Wu
Randi Harper
Corronchilejano
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partyphone
Banned
no one is unbiased. gamergate hasn't found any actual corruption or conflicts of interest. the point of that deepfreeze site is to single out people for harassment.
I mean, they exist. You can't say they don't coming off the week were the escapist was accused of consorting with GG trumpets in trying to break a story about Derrek Smart and his crusade against the Star Citizen devs. Point to the actual ARTICLES instead of saying "yeah just go to fox news, you'll probably find what you're looking for."
partyphone
Banned
well that was fun.
but seriously, the buzzfeed thing strikes me as odd.
but seriously, the buzzfeed thing strikes me as odd.
Maddy Myers has a good summary over at The Mary Sue.
It's good for newcomers and others, as I just discovered this tidbit, which is a pretty big indictment of SXSW's mindset going into the panel picking process.
It's good for newcomers and others, as I just discovered this tidbit, which is a pretty big indictment of SXSW's mindset going into the panel picking process.
partyphone
Banned
oh good both sides nonsense. fuck these assholes.
No, their mantra, for a good few months was literally, "If you have friends in the industry that you cover, you are not only doing your job poorly, you are at risk of being a corporate mouth piece that cannot be trusted".
These people have no idea how actual networking happens. It's a bunch of people not involved in the industry but sorely wish they were telling people who are in the industry how to do their jobs because "yeah, I could do it better, you know, if I really tried."
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Hey, you gotta do what you gotta do to... hmmm... prevent reviewers from being friendly with devs I don't like... and... prevent people from pointing out sexist tropes in games are sexist. You don't understand they're doing it for the Greater Good.
nah it makes sense, cause randi harper is personally responsible for the actions of everyone who doesn't like gamergate
Gah has there been a resurgence in GG related activity lately? For a while I thought they were going away but now it seems like they're back in the news quite often.
oh man, too bad you're banned now because I would love to hear some more about this widespread corruption, lol.
oh man, too bad you're banned now because I would love to hear some more about this widespread corruption, lol.
aspiegamer
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Having not heard that much about this crap for several months I assumed it was fizzling out on its own, but these people seem to be entirely unable to let this go. And even after this long there are still somehow even more people on GAF that make a deliberate effort to get themselves banned for street cred on other forums!
There's a reason for this.
And there it is. Never anyone to actually be held accountable when no one "leads" where the members are complete cowards and pathetically hide in grey web anonymous forums. It's so desperately vague a threat that SXSW made zero effort to stand up for themselves. They didn't consider it worth the effort because they would face more and more intimidation.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
I don't really blame SXSW for not wanting a part of any of this.
GG is a cesspool, and I don't blame SXSW of having just walked away from at all.. it's not even the best venue for that kind of discussion as is.
GG is a cesspool, and I don't blame SXSW of having just walked away from at all.. it's not even the best venue for that kind of discussion as is.
partyphone
Banned
they are almost entirely to blame. they approved the pro-gamergate panel despite the good advice from many, many people. they continue to try to present this as a "both sides" issue. and now they've capitualted to threats. what does that say about the integrity of their show? or the safety of their other panelists?
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
According to the account above, they actively courted it and then stepped away when it got hot
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Probably thought it was reasonable to have the discussions in place, and underestimated just exactly how hostile and stupid gators actually are?
GG fuckery and the lows they stoop to are hard for even veterans of the internet to comprehend.. let alone people on the outside.
I have 2 brothers, both in IT fields one is a programmer at a very large company and a total geek to the core.. has no clue what GG is. Other does tech support, a gamer but not hugely, huge into MCU and scifi and the like... no clue what GG is.
GG spills into the real-world quite often, but it's not something a lot of people have explored outside of a pretty niche part of the internet.
I don't think SXSW had a clue what they were doing, but them walking away from it all is probably best for them in the end.
Be very, very careful. That is an irrational human being you are involved with who is attempting to invalidate your opinions based on magical thinking.
People support those who struggle against barriers they never experienced every day. Is she not against child hunger because she has a meal every day? Does she believe every Peace Corps doctor is slumming in Africa to pad their resume and brag later in life?
Apologies for the derail but your interactions sound so one sided and unhealthy.
Arthur Chu has a piece showcasing SXSW's process going back to the panel submission process.
Just shows how irresponsible SXSW has been through the whole ordeal.
Just shows how irresponsible SXSW has been through the whole ordeal.
Box of Kittens
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Well, my experience from reading their own words on KotakuInAction, The Escapist, and Twitter is that basically no one in gamergate really opposes harassment. Many repeat the "gamergate is anti-harassment, it's all false flags and third party trolls" line as a form of propaganda, others to try and convince themselves that it's true. But basically their response to harassment was "I'm anti harassment BUT " with the usual litany of excuses that the target wasn't really being harassed, or they deserved it, or it was funny, etc. I'm sure some of them genuinely think they can be anti-harassment while celebrating when it happens to people they don't like, while others are quite consciously using the amorphous nature of a hashtag "movement" as a means of denying responsibility.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
A Gaming Court?
Are they talking about an "internet court" or a real legit court?
Gaming is not a religion. It is a hobby.
Buzzfeed is pulling out of SXSW in response to this. http://www.polygon.com/2015/10/27/9621692/buzzfeed-withdrawal-sxsw-gaming-panels-canceled
This is pretty huge. Possibly new thread worthy?
This is pretty huge. Possibly new thread worthy?
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Yeah, there are really only two options here:
1) Someone on the SXSW scheduling committee is pro-GG.
2) SXSW knew exactly what they were doing and were hoping for some sort of confrontation at either panel.
You're gonna need a 3/5ths majority to make a declaration like that, bub
BumblebeeCody
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I knooooow.
crimsonheadGCN
Banned
Congresswoman Katherine Clark sent a letter to SXSW:
Man I wish there was a cute game conspiracy.
Gamergate's a fucking perfect example of sun tzu's "exhaust your targets by being formless" strategy, what with the fact that they've totally got a group consensus and strategy but whenever anyone tries to pin them down they're totally just a group of individuals who etc and that one person who did wrong shouldn't stain the whole group.
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