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Fallout 4 PC Performance Thread
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Lord Phol
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Hmm, I get fluctuating 29-32 fps in the main menu screen, pointer is lagging.
i5 3570 @ 3,4 Ghz
980GTX TI
16GB RAM
Playing @ 1920x1080
Edit: Intro movie is 35-40 fps and character customization is 45 fps. Something is definetly wrong here. Going to try the new drivers
Edit 2: Updating drivers and lowering settings does absolutely nothing. Going to try restarting everything.
Edit 3: Full-screen mode gained me about 2000 more fps in the menu and about 176 on character customization.
i5 3570 @ 3,4 Ghz
980GTX TI
16GB RAM
Playing @ 1920x1080
Edit: Intro movie is 35-40 fps and character customization is 45 fps. Something is definetly wrong here. Going to try the new drivers
Edit 2: Updating drivers and lowering settings does absolutely nothing. Going to try restarting everything.
Edit 3: Full-screen mode gained me about 2000 more fps in the menu and about 176 on character customization.
Some more Godray Low vs Ultra comparisons straight from the horses mouth:
http://images.nvidia.com/geforce-co...-interactive-comparison-001-ultra-vs-low.html
http://images.nvidia.com/geforce-co...-interactive-comparison-006-ultra-vs-low.html
Definitely going with Low but this time you can actually see the difference for what it's worth.
http://images.nvidia.com/geforce-co...-interactive-comparison-001-ultra-vs-low.html
http://images.nvidia.com/geforce-co...-interactive-comparison-006-ultra-vs-low.html
Definitely going with Low but this time you can actually see the difference for what it's worth.
Dictator93
Member
Unlike Dark Souls PC, which casualized the calculated terror of blighttown, hard mode in this game is unlocked by PC.
Did you check out the linked mp4s which show its effect on alpha?
Did you check out the linked mp4s which show its effect on alpha?
With very fine details (the example they used was a fence) you can see softness on lower settings, but that is all. You should be golden at low and they're a good example of why you shouldn't just max everything.
In the Nvidia article they tweak the godrays with settings that go beyond ultra and analyze them quite thoroughly of you're curious.
artsi
Member
And no solution in sight. So I have to install Windows 8.1 to play Fallout 4. Thanks Microsoft.
38 fps on a couch with tv at 4k is perfectly playable, at least imo.
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The difference in performance loss is one FPS. That's negligible.
v0mitg0d
Member
Streaming Fallout 4 on PC Ultra settings at 1080P. come hang with me and ask questions! https://gaming.youtube.com/user/warcrow/live
Saucycarpdog
Member
Looking at the comparison gifs and pictures in the DF thread, all I gotta say is people like NXgamer have an uphill battle to fight if they go the route of downplaying the significance of the PC version.
nismogrendel
Member
980GTX
2500k
16gb ram
I want to play 2560x1600 at around 60fps. Is this doable? I could drop to 1900x1200 but would rather not.
2500k
16gb ram
I want to play 2560x1600 at around 60fps. Is this doable? I could drop to 1900x1200 but would rather not.
Future PhaZe
Member
lmao @ godrays benchmark
You thought the rays of god were easy to render?
These ones?
Low shows what looks to me like crosshatching effects. Now I want to see what Off and High looks like.
Evil Within?
DJSebolski
Member
Sounds like I'll start out using these settings and go from there.
Game Setting Conclusion
With 20 settings, and dozens of detail levels, it can be tricky to determine what you should and should not enable if your system can't max out every option. If it were us, we'd enable settings in this order, mostly using High settings for the best balance between image quality and performance:
Texture Quality (Ultra)
Anisotropic Filtering (16x)
Anti-Aliasing (TAA)
Shadow Distance (High)
Shadow Quality (High)
God Rays Quality (Low)
Object Fade (50%)
Distant Object Detail (High)
Actor Fade (50%)
Item Fade (50%)
Grass Fade (50-75%)
Wetness (On)
Ambient Occlusion (On)
Screen Space Reflections (On)
Lens Flare (On)
Depth of Field (Standard)
Object Detail Fade (any)
Lighting Quality (Medium)
Rain Occlusion (On)
Decal Quantity (High)
Game Setting Conclusion
With 20 settings, and dozens of detail levels, it can be tricky to determine what you should and should not enable if your system can't max out every option. If it were us, we'd enable settings in this order, mostly using High settings for the best balance between image quality and performance:
Texture Quality (Ultra)
Anisotropic Filtering (16x)
Anti-Aliasing (TAA)
Shadow Distance (High)
Shadow Quality (High)
God Rays Quality (Low)
Object Fade (50%)
Distant Object Detail (High)
Actor Fade (50%)
Item Fade (50%)
Grass Fade (50-75%)
Wetness (On)
Ambient Occlusion (On)
Screen Space Reflections (On)
Lens Flare (On)
Depth of Field (Standard)
Object Detail Fade (any)
Lighting Quality (Medium)
Rain Occlusion (On)
Decal Quantity (High)
Dictator93
Member
Yeah those ones. It should look similar to this effect you see on consoles with the volumetric lighting:
Albeit, you have imagiune that pixelisation changing in every frame and being very temporally unstable.
dr_rus
Member
Yeah, that's not how math works in this universe. We are looking at an impact which is caused by enabling Gameworks, not how much performance you gain from disabling it. A 980 user is loosing 13,1% of performance when enabling Gameworks. A 390X user is loosing 16% of performance when enabling Gameworks. These are comparable and these 3% can easily be retaken by the driver optimizations.
It's because of tessellation.
Look what happens when with Gameworks Off the cards are truly "more or less the same" even within my conservative definition of the term:
Neither card gives playable performance of course, but it's still a heavier penalty on one end.
What you're showing here is the result of the lack of memory bandwidth on 970 and not an "even" Gameworks impact at all. You're basically substituting the Gameworks impact with bandwidth impact and saying that this is somehow more correct simply because your favorite brand is doing better here.
I'm not saying that tessellation isn't impacting Radeon's performance but it's pretty clear that the impact is minimal to none in FO4's volumetric lightning system. Do note that the same system is running on both PS4 and XBO and as such is likely to be rather well optimized for GCN tessellation h/w.
Radeons issues in FO4 are likely to be mostly related to the quality of AMD's DX11 driver.
Yeah those ones. It should look similar to this effect you see on consoles with the volumetric lighting:
Albeit, you have imagiune that pixelisation changing in every frame and being very temporally unstable.
Damn son.
The first time I find some good lighting in this game on my own machine I just know I'm going to spend an hour playing with the God Rays to find what is best...
So, it's currently unplayable on Windows 10? I expected bugs, but that takes the cake.
Yeah, that's not how math works in this universe. The difference between 13.1% and 16% is not 3%. It's 22%, and yes that is a significantly statistical difference by most measures. Certainly you see the difference between 100% and 97%, which is insignificant, and 13% and 16% which is significant.
Very late edit:
"We are looking at an impact which is caused by enabling Gameworks, not how much performance you gain from disabling it". Those are actually the same exact thing, relatively. I should have checked your math earlier, because where do you even derive these amounts from?
http://abload.de/img/fo4-perfvfuqb.png
Playing this at 3440x1440 on ultra with a core i5 3350p and a 970 with windows 10. Seems to be over 30fps for most of it. Not bad. I did have to piss about in the ini files in documents/my games as it was bugged to hell on start up in that I could only select 1080p and windowed, try anything else and it showed up as blank.
Irobot82
Member
Isn't the consolse GPU based on Tonga/Fiji 1.2 or 1.1? In that case the hardware tessellation is much better than what is on the 290, 390 etc. That might not be a fair comparison. But I could be super wrong.
Hows this processor stack against a phenom ii 945?
constantstatic
Member
I have an I7940 clocked at 2.93 it says and a 660ti. Does anyone think I will be able to run this better than the ps4 and xbox one? Digital foundry got my shook thinking about sending the game back to amazon and getting the pc version.
i'm just looking for comparable graphics to consoles and locked 30 fps.
i'm just looking for comparable graphics to consoles and locked 30 fps.
I will be locking on 30 fps as well with older hardware. Glad to hear it's working out fine.
Also, this game forces v-sync right? No in game option, but Skyrim didn't have one either, and it was always v-synced.
Phenom II 945 is about ~7% slower. You should be fine. If not, Steam refund it no questions asked.
Anyone playing with a gamepad? I picked up that new xbox one wireless adapter basically for Fallout 4.
Hoping for some more laptop impressions also. I'm on a 970m.
Yeah, I'm using a 360 pad. Works great. Only thing is some of the prompts (e.g. during crafting) refer to the 'symbols' on the X1 controller, rather than saying 'Back' (on 360 controller).
Gareth Bale
Member
No one knows how to access the console?
Walker_Boh
Member
So I should be good then? My CPU is weaker than yours but I didn't plan on playing on Ultra in the first place.
look for bAllowConsole=1 in the ini.
Coreda
Member
Getting a 404 on this page.
Tilde key worked for me by default without editing anything. Accidently brought it up earlier.
TheFNEffecT
Member
Console was unlocked already for me by default. I instinctively pressed ~ to try the FOV. Alas it just reverts as I exit, thank goodness for the ini tweak, is this what you mean by accessing the console?
Dictator93
Member
Yeah, it is down for me as well. Perhaps they have to change something and they are going to update it again?
I hope it is not too much work for Andy if that is the case. Those guides seem like they must take a long time and a lot of patience.
From what I've read:
Forced V-Sync (can be changed through the config?)
Crashes on Win 10 due to XAudio file and removing it mutes the game?
No proper SLI support? But may be enabled through Geforce Control Panel similar to The Evil Within?
Did I miss anything?
Edit: FOV forced through a .ini change doesn't work?
Forced V-Sync (can be changed through the config?)
Crashes on Win 10 due to XAudio file and removing it mutes the game?
No proper SLI support? But may be enabled through Geforce Control Panel similar to The Evil Within?
Did I miss anything?
Edit: FOV forced through a .ini change doesn't work?
This isn't true. I'm playing on W10.