Vote: Verelios
Can we get a vote count update?
Also, are people seriously voting for Kristoffer?
Are people seriously not pressuring those who didn't vote Ri'Orius??
Heh...
Heh
Eh
Tell me more dahling....
Not 5 posts after each other fam.
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Bloodborne |Mafia OT| The Night Brims With Defiled Scum
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weemadarthur
Member
Incorrect. I explained my thoughts throughout day one and two. I was combative with Haly for 1.5 day phases. After a bit more arguing on day two, Haly posted something I was able to believe accounted for my scum read, so I moved on. Pending more information of course, as I don't town read him.
Inactives, correct. When they contributed I moved on.
Palmer I was actually scum reading from his bizarre behavior - day one whining, self aggrandizement, OMGUS votes.
Incorrect.
My vote is phrased lightly but is due to scum reading seath. Yes, from that day opening post plus their disappearance until it seemed like nobody was supporting my read. Since then seath has still said very little except to agree with others. I say, I believe seath is scum this game. Do you feel you can make a better read?
I keep getting a feeling that a batch of vilebloods and their opponents are going to show up. This game has so many people acting as pairs that I wonder if the point of it is to test the upper limit on non town factions which can't win together.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Speaking of pairs: Verelios desperately trying to turn the attention away from nudull.
Just a note that Drencom isn't actually playing but is in the vote count, just keep that in mind.
Kristoffer has been an aggressive personality for the entire game, it's nothing new to those harping on it...
Freakinchair is my second choice for today if we just want to rid ourselves of the uncertainty of a vig running around. I've found JQK's defense posts based on the Verelios accusations to be weak and more deflecting than anything else.
I wouldn't put much stock into the tandem posts mentioned above, if anything, it means they're less likely to be related as the odds of two scum going in right at the same time are slim, still possible though.
Kristoffer has been an aggressive personality for the entire game, it's nothing new to those harping on it...
Freakinchair is my second choice for today if we just want to rid ourselves of the uncertainty of a vig running around. I've found JQK's defense posts based on the Verelios accusations to be weak and more deflecting than anything else.
I wouldn't put much stock into the tandem posts mentioned above, if anything, it means they're less likely to be related as the odds of two scum going in right at the same time are slim, still possible though.
So you agree that you and Seath are a team?
johnnyquicknives
Member
I know that and that was my point, you are looking at my posts purely as saving Mazre. You don't seem to be able to comprehend that I had a bad feeling about you.
3 paragraphs from you here. Every one is outright wrong.
1) My primary reason, that I have mentioned repeatedly, but you never acknowledge is that i find you hard to read.
2) I havent called you out for posting about lore. The closest I came was saying a lot of your posts were light on content. They were.
3) The closest I came was saying your flip will "point towards others". A long stretch to "errrrybody".
And this is enhancing point one. Maybe you misremember, maybe you exaggerate posts in your head, maybe you are new and don't understand things, maybe you are playing that way deliberately. Whatever it is it makes you hard to read and that doesn't strike me as town play.
Hm.
Uh huh.
These are your own words, I'm not putting things in your mouth. So, care to point towards these 'interactions' or once again act like you're being unfairly accused.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
I swear to god, squidyj, sometimes you make the worst votes. You always pull through in the end, and I know you're just doing this because we have a few days, but I guarantee you that nothing will come out of pressuring Haly because everyone is interested in nudull right now.
Everyone IS very interested in Nudull right now, an entire rogues gallery is arrayed against him.
Meanwhile, what has Haly done for us? I said day 1 that he was on a scum team with Ri'orius and then Ri'orius turned out to be scum, wouldn't it be great if I knocked it out of the park on day 1?
Spoiled Milk
Banned
He's done jack, actually. In fact... I was nodding emphatically to myself when he said his judgment was untrustworthy.
Since day 1 I've been concentrated on looking at squidy, palmer, and kristoffer. Kristoffer because he was just funky. Squidy and palmer because I consider them good players I'm familiar with and thus I'm willing to vote for whoever until I find something worthwhile to pin on these two, who would be significantly greater threats if either of them were scum, in the worst case, both.
Given the results since then it's obvious I was just completely off, which is why I've withdrawn from all the fingerpointing and whatnot. Even if I was active, what would it have accomplished? The Ri'Orius D1 lynch was a last minute drive by palmer. The Mazre lynch was set in motion by squidyj at the start of D2. It's a great town opener, to be sure, but it's also obvious which players are actually driving the town's lynches and which ones are just generating noise, or coasting, myself included.
Given the results since then it's obvious I was just completely off, which is why I've withdrawn from all the fingerpointing and whatnot. Even if I was active, what would it have accomplished? The Ri'Orius D1 lynch was a last minute drive by palmer. The Mazre lynch was set in motion by squidyj at the start of D2. It's a great town opener, to be sure, but it's also obvious which players are actually driving the town's lynches and which ones are just generating noise, or coasting, myself included.
II-Vanguard-II
Member
no strong reads today
Vote: Verelios
lets see what happens
Vote: Verelios
lets see what happens
The problem with that benefit is that it comes with a great risk: getting night killed by the church. Is busing your teammate, who's lose would be pretty bad since he could give 4 points every night, really worth it when it comes with such a risk? You risk lynching one member of your team and getting the other night killed.
This comes over as very scummy to me. Talking and pointing fingers is good for town, even if you end up being wrong a lot of the time. Staying in the background and just following the current lead is bad for town and an easy way for scum to hide from both town and the other scum team.
I was also wondering why you claimed ordinary as soon as you did but the two scum teams could actually explain that: Probably one of the first things you conclude if you see that in a game of 24 players and you only have a few scum partners is that there is another scum team. Claiming ordinary in that case could help with avoiding the powers of the other scum team.
He also pushed the "ri'orius was alone" based on pm wording, and since mazre pm had the same wording while for certain not being alone, that wasn't the case. Could be him trying to push us to focus on the other team. Then there is the part about chair not being a normal vig because that would be "too normal" for this game, which was a weird remark imo.
vote: haly
I went through Haly's posts and there was a lot more pure mechanics talk. There are posts where they give their personal opinion and question people but the mechanics talk sort of seems like it is there to make them appear to be contributing more. Withdrawing completely from finger-pointing is quite scummy as Roy said. If you're town you have nothing to lose by accusing someone. With the lynches we've had so far we're in a great position where a mislynch won't have a dramatic effect on town.
Vote: Haly
Vote: Haly
Mechanics talk is the only kind of talk I'm comfortable with. I'm just not good or accustomed to accusations based on gut feelings.
Lynching me is a waste of a day but you're right, it won't harm town much given the buffer that's been built.
Lynching me is a waste of a day but you're right, it won't harm town much given the buffer that's been built.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Haly is dead weight. I never actually wanted to defend him. It was just a ploy in day 1 to get people to like me and not vote me.
Vote: Haly
Vote: Haly
Do you actually think Haly is scum, or just a dead weight towny? Yeah, dead weight town is not the best, but no reason to lynch them since that would cost a lynch and the mere act of them being around helps to delay a scum victory.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
I have very moderate inclinations of scum from Haly for a variety of reasons I don't have time right now to delineate. If you remind me tomorrow, I will happily share my sentiments in more detail. It is sufficient to say at this moment that the combination of Haly's lack of value and his suspicious behavior which has persisted all three days is more than enough reason to lynch. In fact I suppose the case is slightly stronger than the case for nudull.
Freakinchair
Member
I'd rather lynch the coasting nudull but if it ends up being haly I'll jump on board. Haly strikes me as either regular town (his claim) or scum. Alternatively I could just attempt to shoot haly at night and we lynch nudull during the day. This might not work though as I'll likely be blocked again.
First it was Verelios, then it was nudull, now it's Haly. It's not really "pressure" when it's clear that you'll just jump ship to another vote as soon as you get bored of the one you're on.
Yeah, that sure would suck. Of course, you wouldn't have to worry about being "blocked" if you hadn't pointlessly outed your role on D2 when nobody needed to know about it and you weren't in any danger!
Am I the only one who sees through this obvious stalling gambit? He's just going to keep having an excuse for why he's totally ineffective, hoping that by the time we figure it out there will be more pressing matters to deal with than a guy who's maybe lying about being a PR.
VOTE: freakinchair
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Camjo suddenly freaking out because Haly is Mensis.
Perhaps you mistook me for Verelios? You need higher quality bait than that to reel me in, Cap'n.
Also, MickD is my #1 guess for Mensis, already went through this.
Freakinchair
Member
Technically my first kill was effective at killing a confused townie. Or rather a townie caught in the crossfire that ended up being extremely suspect. I'm not really worried about being blocked, I encourage it actually because I'd rather have our more powerful roles active at night. I had a few points for outing myself and so far it's working - you can read my previous posts for more information. Pretty sure the consensus is that I'm town so you're post here is extremely weird.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Huh, what? Ezekial was a confused townie? How come I didn't have much memory of him day 2? Seems like he was just being idle.
...seriously? :/
Spoiled Milk
Banned
...I didn't mean it to have any relationship with what you're thinking about. I just found it jarring that Freakinchair's usually well written post had such a typo.
Freakinchair
Member
Im sorry - their is usually no way I'd make that kind of mistake and your correct to point it out. I hope that it doesnt change how this effects how people look at I.
Freakinchair
Member
You probably don't have much memory of him day 2 because I shot him in the head night 1. He was definitely not idle in day 1 though.
Not sure if sarcasm... ignore this post if it went over my head.
Day 3 votes
nudull (3)
squidyj 967 (1108)
freakinchair 984
never forever 1083
kristoffer 1087 (1120)
seath 1094 (1116)
haly 1100
verelios (1)
kristoffer 968 (1087)
ii-vanguard-ii 1114
freakinchair (1)
kalor 981 (1117)
camjo-z 1124
seath (1)
seath 997 (1035)
weemadarthur 1038
johnnyquicknives (4)
mickd 1014
flame_ac 1026
zippedpinhead 1040
verelios 1041
drencrom (0)
seath 1035 (1094)
weemadarthur (1)
crimsonfist 1073
haly (5)
squidyj 1108
roytheone 1115
seath 1116
kalor 1117
kristoffer 1120
nudull (3)
freakinchair 984
never forever 1083
haly 1100
verelios (1)
ii-vanguard-ii 1114
freakinchair (1)
camjo-z 1124
seath (1)
weemadarthur 1038
johnnyquicknives (4)
mickd 1014
flame_ac 1026
zippedpinhead 1040
verelios 1041
drencrom (0)
weemadarthur (1)
crimsonfist 1073
haly (5)
squidyj 1108
roytheone 1115
seath 1116
kalor 1117
kristoffer 1120
I meant coming into day 2, meaning over the entire day 1 phase.You probably don't have much memory of him day 2 because I shot him in the head night 1. He was definitely not idle in day 1 though.
Not sure if sarcasm... ignore this post if it went over my head.
weemadarthur
Member
So, you chose to offer no real reads, cared more about keeping friends than about helping town, and were ineffective at it besides?
I am still ready to vote you out just to reduce the noise. Trouble is, I can't quite tell if I think you're scum or if I'm purely irritated by you.
If other people didn't mention this I wouldn't have remembered or cared.
Day 1 hypocrisy. How long have you been looking for sacrifices Kris? Damn, this is a scummy move. Vicious.Kristoffer said:
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Really nervous about this Johnny lynch that could happen. Would prefer Haly.
The latter!
Could you restate for me why you think Haly is the better choice today compared to JQK? Convince me basically. I think JQK is the right choice today if we're looking to out people likely to be Mensis.
why would this be our priority?
II-Vanguard-II
Member
Wouldn't that make Verelios the immediate threat. then why are you on haly?
I'm more certain that he is Mensis than I am of other's being Healing Church. Ideally, we'd knock out the Church first so then there's no night kills, but if we have a good opportunity then I say we take it, regardless of which type of scum they are.
II-Vanguard-II
Member
Not really. i was trying to get a response out of you that's all.
Vote: Haly