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Namco censors Tales of Berseria despite insisting they won't
- Thread starter ShadowSoldier89
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VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
This has me down.
I wonder if other scenes of death will be accompanied by 30 seconds of magic circles spinning and a lopsided crucifixion.
I wonder if other scenes of death will be accompanied by 30 seconds of magic circles spinning and a lopsided crucifixion.
This thread reminded me I haven't played ep III in over a year. The problem is that I always get depressed after it.
Man, what a fucking masterpiece of a game.
She's somewhat scantily clad in some unreasonable anime clothing, I figured out that much. What else is wrong with her? Is she a shit character in the game? A bad tales character lead? The beginning and the unfortunate end of a female-lead Tales character revolution?
smh she's not even my type and I'm more interested in what's wrong with her as a character than if her titty pop out of that living clothing malfunction. It's a dumb edgy clothing design but that's not all she is.
she's not even the only fashion disaster in the game
This is why we need Lightning,
mrmickfran
Member
Its magic.
Well that title seems like a lie, by the OP quote they never promised anything other than the protagonist. Just said they know fans want the same thing Japan got and the company considers it ideal.
You're MORE concerned about censoring outfits than something that apparently affects the story (I'm not clicking the spoilers explaining it, I'm looking forward to the game)?
OniBarubary
Banned
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I mean, I like Xenosaga III. In fact, I like it quite a bit.
But that game has some incredibly large flaws.
The hell? In some ways, the censored version looks even worse. Sure, the villain doesn't physically impale the kid as he does in the Japanese version, but the child is still (seemingly) pierced, this time at multiple points (that somewhat resembles a cross). I...don't understand this at all. It seems so unnecessary, and definitely detracts from the original, considering how straight and to-the-point (if you'll forgive the pun) it was.
I really hope this wasn't the only edit made, but considering how dark the game apparently is (from reading the OT for the Japanese release), I'm now worried. :/
I really hope this wasn't the only edit made, but considering how dark the game apparently is (from reading the OT for the Japanese release), I'm now worried. :/
Basketball
Member
I just saw it in context and i don't think its that bad, in fact I kind of like it better than just straight up stabbing the kid. Still gets the point across. Early game Spoilers warning.
https://www.facebook.com/TalesForLife/videos/1300841566644743/
https://www.facebook.com/TalesForLife/videos/1300841566644743/
NickWright
Member
she's not even the only fashion disaster in the game
< - the fuck is THAT
This is why we need Lightning,
Queen Lightning would never wear that mess, for sure. She is fierce and only uses the best brands out there.
NickWright
Member
Evidentally many of you hadnt played this hidden gem from monolith
That game was great. Too bad they didn't get to make a sequel or something that covered other sagas after that.
It's probably because poor Honne is now stuck supervising artists in Monolithsoft Kyoto who just help with art assets in Nintendo games.
T_T
I very much meant what I said.
That is indeed what I was getting at.
As much as I tried to like Xenosaga, it was a franchise that collapsed under the weight of its own ambition. Infighting between members of the team led to development issues as early as the second game in what was intended to be a six-part story, and what was produced lacked focus and was needlessly convoluted. Having things leaning so heavily toward cutscenes over gameplay didn't help, either. If I were to describe it, it was a series where it felt like Takahashi and crew took every single idea that they brainstormed for it and threw it in, rather than cutting things down to what was actually necessary.
Ultimately, Xenoblade wound up finding a much better balance between story and gameplay, and that new beginning was made possible thanks only to Xenosaga falling through and the developer becoming part of Nintendo, so I do honestly believe that that was the best possible outcome (certainly much better than the studio being sold off and then just fading away as some feared it might at the time). Admittedly though, I'm not too confident in the future for Xenoblade thanks to Xenoblade X going in the opposite direction of Xenosaga by heavily de-emphasizing story and characterization in favor of prioritizing open world elements and questing, so I'll be waiting to see how they react to the feedback they received for it.
If I were to compare, Falcom have been more successful in realizing an ambitious JRPG franchise spanning interconnected games one after another through Trails, all while switching between different casts as the story moved forward (as Xenosaga had once intended) and even accounting for giant robots too.
I wonder if this was in response to actual feedback from the ESRB or if this was preemptive on Bamco's part.
I didn't even realize they were revealing their dub until you posted that, lol
I didn't even realize they were revealing their dub until you posted that, lol
Oh poo. Hopefully someone will be able to mod the Steam version to fix it.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
Lol, I never even started Zestiria yet.... I should get on that..... I don't like censor decisions though.
Luckily, you dont have to bother playing Zestiria to play Berseria. So dont
I'm not defending games being changed but it's more important to me to support something that's at real risk of dying out
Ded
correction, rated E for everyone has double standards
YianGaruga
Banned
purseowner
Member
Respect to them for just coming out and making an official statement. Pleased that's all that's changed.
Insanely disappointing and not a practice I want to support, but I can understand why they felt the need to do it.
Edit: Also - I'm amazed that PEGI are that strict. That heavily stylised scene shouldn't warrant an 18.
Insanely disappointing and not a practice I want to support, but I can understand why they felt the need to do it.
Edit: Also - I'm amazed that PEGI are that strict. That heavily stylised scene shouldn't warrant an 18.
GoldCrusader
Member
It's understandable then, they don't want their game to be rated M. It's not like they censored it for some stupid reason.
YianGaruga
Banned
Killing kids with swords - no
Killing kids with ritual magic - a ok
Killing kids with ritual magic - a ok
purseowner
Member
PEGI really are ridiculous at times.
Vermillion
Banned
It's a bummer, but if this is really the only change that was made I can live with it I guess. It's ridiculous though that this scene alone would warrant a PEGI 18 rating, since many games that I would consider to be more violent in general were PEGI 16 only.
edit: Seems like Berseria is rated USK12 in Germany. Makes the whole thing even weirder.
edit: Seems like Berseria is rated USK12 in Germany. Makes the whole thing even weirder.
So it was PEGI's rules and not the ESRB? I'm cool with it either way, just went and preordered the Steam version.
"This is the only scene which has been altered from the Japanese version of the game. Everything else is exactly the same as the Japanese version"
That is good to hear.
I hate censorship as much as the next guy but if this is the only thing changed I don't think it's a huge deal, it does suck they had to change it but to be fair when the blades popped out it was almost more dramatic imo so if nothing else changed I'll still give it a go.
That is good to hear.
I hate censorship as much as the next guy but if this is the only thing changed I don't think it's a huge deal, it does suck they had to change it but to be fair when the blades popped out it was almost more dramatic imo so if nothing else changed I'll still give it a go.
YianGaruga
Banned
The it's probably PEGI. They are much stricter than USK with some things
At least the second one is harder to imitate, so maybe they are on to something.
Iriscomeback
Member
she's not even the only fashion disaster in the game
< - the fuck is THAT
This is why we need Lightning,
Holy shit that's bad...
But there are other costumes in the game right? Tales games always have that.
USK are quick to refuse a rating for things both PEGI and ESRB allow but then rate a lot of things lower, don't really know what they base their ratings on
There will be the usual cameo, school, idolmaster, beach costumes I'm sure, but they'll be DLC
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Fashion Tales is certainly more hardcore. Lady Gaga bestows her blessings.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Sucks that they cant make the change only in the regions they were struggling with ratings, but I wont really fault them for that, Also
really classy, and I mean that seriously
really classy, and I mean that seriously
Nice that they are communicating.
So is the ESRB rated version unchanged or is every version edited?
ShadowSoldier89
Member
safe to assume every.
shadow2810
Member
Just a reminder LIMBO rating:
- ESRP: T
- PEGI: 16
- USK: 16
Now you tell me if PEGI/USK/ESRP think stabbing a kid is worse than this:
- ESRP: T
- PEGI: 16
- USK: 16
Now you tell me if PEGI/USK/ESRP think stabbing a kid is worse than this:
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I think most people agree that its no worse, but most people also agree that ratings boards arent consistent
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Nice that they're being open about it, but the censored scene is still just goofy as hell. Also pretty fucking wacked that the original would've gotten them an 18+, since this game is just rated 12+ in Japan. But, ah well.