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Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 3: Ridley's Believe It or Not!
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I'm squeeing on the inside at the sound of that idea.
Green Mamba
Member
Gotcha. I'm kind of in a similar state. Like, I sat down one day and tried to think of what the roster could really be, but I just threw up my hands. Brawl's roster I got pretty close, but I can't even conceptualize what SSB4's final roster will be. We're just that far down the rabbit hole.
I was kind of thinking the E3 2013 reveal would have enlightened us a bit as to what kind of newcomers to expect, but I think it has almost left us more in the dark than before. I mean, Mega Man, Villager, Wii Fit Trainer. Where the heck do you go from there?
Ridley? Ridley? Ridley. Ridley. Ridley. Ridley? Ridley. Ridley! Ridley. Ridley. etc.
- Bowser jr could be an interesting character to design.
- I don't think Toad and Rosalina deserve to be characters. I'd prefer to see Daisy with a sports-like move set.
- Paper Mario is overdue.
- Right.. Instead of updating the Zelda characters already present (we'll see what happens with Zelda and Ganondorf) and giving Adult Link his SS look and Toon Link the LTTP2 look, along with some new respective moves, we need "more" Zelda characters in Smash. >_>
- Ridley is overdue.
- I'd rather see a new pokemon than Mewtwo or Lucario return. And a new pkm trainer would be pretty sweet too.
- I'd rather see new Fire Emblem characters return than Marth and whoever else again. Chrom and a female would be nice.
- and I still want Sora.
Spring-Loaded
Member
why would you want Sora
Marth cannot be replaced. He will continue to be the face of the Fire Emblem franchise. Whether or not anyone wants him to return does not matter. He's too popular in the Fire Emblem series.
Doesn't deserve a spot. And I'm saying this as a guy who has played every game besides coded.
Well, cause I like him, he's got a slick move-set and he's been on enough Nintendo consoles to be allowed, no? I mean, why would people want G&W? R.O.B.? more clones like Wolf and Falco? I think Sora can justify his own unique move-set. I'm pretty sure he'd be a fun character to play as.
Is he that special? I didn't know. Haven't played one FE game. So, he's basically the Mario of the series. Ok, then. Still wanna see more FE characters though, like Chrom. When Ike showed up in Brawl, I had a blast playing with him.
Keep it that way. You'll be glad you didn't
User 73706
Banned
How would you guys feel about them adding a little more emphasis on elemental damage for balance's sake? Sort of like what Pokemon Trainer already does in-game, but expanded to cover a more broad territory. Not every move would possess an element - something neutral like Captain Falcon's jab would have pretty neutral damage, for example. The reason I'm asking, though, is that it could potentially breathe new life into some old characters - for example, Ganon's attacks belonging to a rarer shadow / "void" elemental property that could be effective against a large majority of the other elements. Captain Falcon would primary be flame-based, Samus could have some kind of "beam" category that would likewise extend to ROB, etc.
So what Waifu Emblem: Awakening character does everyone want to see? It could be anyone regardless of popularity. Just someone you personally want to have in. Beyond Lucinia of course
Morgan is one of my favorites and has IMO some of the best lines. It also could be viable as an "avatar" character replacement.
Tharja or Tiki. Morgan would be cool if you're able to import your model from the games.
Red Arremer
Member
I don't think they would ban over something like that, especially since it's just limited to this thread.
Also:
Green Mamba
Member
I was (sorta) joking. I really haven't a clue why he was banned, looking through his recent post history.I don't think they would ban over something like that, especially since it's just limited to this thread.
Also:
Ok we'll get Lightning instead.
Decided not to reply to the reason why you want Sora in, I'd just explode on you and get myself banned.
I'm just gonna say that I recommend Awakening. The first Fire Emblem game I played and it is fantastic.
I'm a huge fan of the series and I've watched gameplay videos and cutscenes. I know what I'm expecting with coded. It adds nothing significant to the overall story.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
What makes you think that, out of curiosity? There's nothing that actively discredits that post as far as I know, and guessing WFT still feels comparable to somebody guessing Mr. G&W before Melee came out. It just feels way too out there, and even Mega Man and Villager (whom Sakurai had flat out stated in Brawl's Iwata Asks wasn't appropriate for Smash) weren't necessarily safe choices to make a guess on. If he was being misled (like that Startropics U guy probably was, going by his really weird rants after he was banned), it's weird then he'd be given a half legit list of characters.
Unless I'm missing something the original post just states those six would be in the game and not necessarily at E3, and even if it did the way they've split up character reveals into separate character trailers on the official youtube channel suggests they may have been mixing and matching who to reveal right up until a couple weeks before E3.
I also know your stance on Little Mac, but I still personally think after Mewtwo he's the closest thing SSB4 has to a shoe-in. I mean, I'd put him vastly ahead of Takamaru as a retro-rep (if he even counts as one if you consider PO!! on the SNES and Wii) and the only thing remotely discrediting him is Sakurai potentially spoiling his home stage heaps early. Playable Mii's could also be a part of the customization aspect Sakurai's been super hush hush about so far.
Spring-Loaded
Member
What emblem would Ridley have?
The same as samus?
Green Mamba
Member
The same as Samus's, just like any other character that is part of a larger series.
SenorArdilla
Member
I doubt that Disney will ever let Sora be in Smash as well.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Well, he could ask them to ban him until May 15. Did he said that he can't handle this thread because of Ridley.
I do not want to see any more Mario characters. Or Kirby. Or The Legend of Zelda (unless it's another villian). I would like to see;
Ridley
Dark Samus from Corruption (I'll accept a palette swap)
Mewtwo is a MUST (fuck Mega Evolutions btw)
Btw, what Pokemon do you wanna see in the Pokeballs? I havnt played a Pokemon since maybe the Game Boy Advance era, so I don't know much about the last several hundred, but I always enjoy seeing Legendaries new and old. And Snorlax
Ridley
Dark Samus from Corruption (I'll accept a palette swap)
Mewtwo is a MUST (fuck Mega Evolutions btw)
Btw, what Pokemon do you wanna see in the Pokeballs? I havnt played a Pokemon since maybe the Game Boy Advance era, so I don't know much about the last several hundred, but I always enjoy seeing Legendaries new and old. And Snorlax
Disney lets anything be in anything as long as they make money.
Have you seen disney in the past decade,
Its nintendo that is the problem
Spring-Loaded
Member
I'm thinking either tail bombs or his Plasma wall attack from corruption
I don't know anything about Lightning but I bet she's better than Sora.
No.
Yes I know sora is a useless protagonist because Riku has solved so many issues in that series he has basically impromptu main character at this point. However, no go no jesus go no.
A few of us from other forums contacted Gematsu after E3, and I can say that the original leaker's credentials check out. Hes in an industry media position that much Im sure of. My concern is that the leaker never actually saw those characters firsthand. He was just relaying what he heard to Gematsu, and there are half a dozen scenarios where he could have either been given misinformation or confused what he actually saw/heard with something else. The rumor also specifically stated that all six characters would be announced at E3, which obviously didnt happen.
I dont mean to ramble, but I suppose what Im trying to say is that people shouldnt take the rumor at face value just because half of it turned out to be true. Its not so bad at GAF, but at other forums there are people who are acting like Little Mac, Pac-Man, and Mii have practically been confirmed. Its way too early for that kind of confidence.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Japan vs. Little Mac
Poor Mac, he is always the underdog.
Poor Mac, he is always the underdog.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
isnt lil mac highly voted in japan because they know us americans really want him?
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Pity votes?
SenorArdilla
Member
Ah yes, that pesky "must have originated from a video game" rule.
EDIT:
Not that Sora doesn't qualify. I just think that Disney might want to push their other assets.
Well, I only played the first KH game and it was a long time ago and I didn't get past the Riku boss in that Beauty and the Beast level that wasn't really like Beauty and the Beast at all. So is Riku still in and did he turn into a good guy now?
Didn't care at first, but you have to have some good reasons. Mellow it down and tell me.
Ephraim or Sigurd and Hector would fill out the weapons triangle nicely.
Disney might not even care.
They got that block buster and Disney infinity money. Disney chilled the frack out the last decade.
From the end of KH1 to .. well now riku is the fix the story guy, every time the plot needs solving, riku. They acknowledge it in DDD. And in BBS you find out that
Riku was supposed to the keyblade master and sora got the keyblade basically on accident
Starphoenix
Member
Oh just say Smashboards, we all know that's who you're talking about.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Ah right, wasn't aware of that part. Still, I think given how the character trailers have been handled and how WFT's reveal was completely separate from Villagers/Mega's, while Mega Man's reveal is cut into his own trailer on the youtube page could possibly mean they were juggling which characters to reveal at E3 and which ones to hold off for a later date.
Agreed that it shouldn't be taken as gospel since it was half wrong, but besides maybe Mii (more because I just find them boring than anything else), I personally wouldn't bet against Mac or Pac-Man. Especially given Sakurai's response to the latter in that IGN interview.
I vaguely remember one of the few legit Brawl leakers who talked about Wolf/Falco around Novermber '07 seemed surprised when it turned out the final character count was 35/39 and no Mewtwo, so there's always scenarios where even if they've got legit sources they're still only getting a partial pictures of things.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=62304489&postcount=2996
This was from before E3, and the post wasn't edited. He runs a site called Gematsu, and he was tipped off from a source that those characters would be confirmed at E3.
Comfort Jones
Banned
Would make the game even harder to balance and just add an extra layer of dumb busy work for people to learn. Not a good meaningful change at all.
If you want to "breathe new life" into old characters, give them better move sets. Give them a move that actually does something new rather than just doing more damage against a character.
Red Arremer
Member
Long story short: Somebody stated that 6 newcomers would be revealed during E3 - Mega Man, Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, Pac-Man, Mii and Little Mac.
Since the first 3 actually had been revealed, and most of us thought that it couldn't be just coincidence to be spot on with Villager and WFT, it's been pretty universally accepted to be true, even though the other 3 didn't get revealed at E3 (the explanation being that the leaker might've heard of those 6 but Nintendo changed their reveal schedule or something).
Noo Ice. Vader: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo~
Do return when your ban is over.
EDIT: wait he's banned until may 15th apparently
That sucks.
Ridley hype decreased 99%
LoftyTheMetroid
Member
Okay, since we're talking about potential characters and how they'd play, I'm going to geek out and post one of my fan ideas:
GANONDORF
(As in, a new character. They can make Black Shadow the heavyweight Captain Falcon clone...)
The gameplay theme is still, appropriately enough, power. Thus, Ganondorf is primarily a slow, heavyweight powerhouse. However, these sorts of characters tend to ultimately not be viable. This design is an attempt to make this gameplay style enjoyable but competitive.
Ganondorf has his trusty heavy sword, but it does not define his play style like it would, say, Ike. Thinking of Ganondorf as a "dark wizard" opens the door for some unique attacks and mechanics to make his play style viable. A few of his normals or strings involve a sword slash, but others might include clouds of darkness, aura bursts, etc. However, the sword moves are important to note because of the first of his specials.
Up Special: Lightning Strike
Ganondorf raises his sword and after a short warmup a Thunder-esque bolt of lightning will charge it. The next normal Gandondorf performs with his sword will be super-charged, dealing extra damage and knock-back. It will even send out a skyward strike-esque ranged blast.
Again, this emphasizes devastating, singular attacks.
"But that's such a waste since he'll never land those hits anyway!"
Then check out these next two specials.
Down Special: Curse
Ganondorf charges a ball of dark energy and fires it towards the ground. When it hits, it expands across the floor at a radius proportional to the amount of time spent charging the attack. Enemies that are standing within its field are cursed and cannot block. Perfect for setting up powerful strikes and smashes! (Although it will dissipate after a while...)
NOTE: This could use a better reference to the source material. Gameplay came first, and then I just looked for the closest Zelda-related representation. Technically speaking, in the games this debuff prevents Link from attacking, not blocking. (Although, would it be too powerful to have this field prevent attacks as well...?)
Side Special: Dead Man's Volley
Ganondorf's classic attack. He throws an energy ball forward that will deal damage and, more importantly, stun the player for a very short duration several times over the course of the debuff. Use these openings to your advantage and hit your opponent with your best shot!
(Of course, opponents can attack the ball and send it back towards Ganondorf, so be on your toes...!)
And for the final move:
Neutral Special: Twilight Vortex
Ganondorf summons a portal to the Twilight Realm that will suck in nearby players. (This includes Ganondorf himself...!) Opponents that touch the center of the vortex will be dealt sustained damage for as long as they remain there. Ganondorf can also charge the move to increase the vortex's gravitational strength and radius, and he can alter its summoned position with the control stick while he charges.
This is what cements Gandondorf's moveset. Move players into your Curse fields to follow up with smash attacks and Lightning Strikes. Use it to force your opponents to run out of its radius (and thus moving instead of blocking). Have it yank back more mobile targets that would otherwise escape your grasp. Use it to screw up your enemies' recoveries. Change the timing and pace of battle by manipulating spatial movement in unexpected ways. Increase Ganondorf's own mobility and use it as a gap closer.
Note, this is also Ganondorf's third jump. (Thought I missed that with Lightning Strike, eh?) Create a vortex just above or ahead of Ganondorf to shoot him in that direction.
Anyway, that's it. Sorry, gotta vent that hype somewhere...
GANONDORF
(As in, a new character. They can make Black Shadow the heavyweight Captain Falcon clone...)
The gameplay theme is still, appropriately enough, power. Thus, Ganondorf is primarily a slow, heavyweight powerhouse. However, these sorts of characters tend to ultimately not be viable. This design is an attempt to make this gameplay style enjoyable but competitive.
Ganondorf has his trusty heavy sword, but it does not define his play style like it would, say, Ike. Thinking of Ganondorf as a "dark wizard" opens the door for some unique attacks and mechanics to make his play style viable. A few of his normals or strings involve a sword slash, but others might include clouds of darkness, aura bursts, etc. However, the sword moves are important to note because of the first of his specials.
Up Special: Lightning Strike
Ganondorf raises his sword and after a short warmup a Thunder-esque bolt of lightning will charge it. The next normal Gandondorf performs with his sword will be super-charged, dealing extra damage and knock-back. It will even send out a skyward strike-esque ranged blast.
Again, this emphasizes devastating, singular attacks.
"But that's such a waste since he'll never land those hits anyway!"
Then check out these next two specials.
Down Special: Curse
Ganondorf charges a ball of dark energy and fires it towards the ground. When it hits, it expands across the floor at a radius proportional to the amount of time spent charging the attack. Enemies that are standing within its field are cursed and cannot block. Perfect for setting up powerful strikes and smashes! (Although it will dissipate after a while...)
NOTE: This could use a better reference to the source material. Gameplay came first, and then I just looked for the closest Zelda-related representation. Technically speaking, in the games this debuff prevents Link from attacking, not blocking. (Although, would it be too powerful to have this field prevent attacks as well...?)
Side Special: Dead Man's Volley
Ganondorf's classic attack. He throws an energy ball forward that will deal damage and, more importantly, stun the player for a very short duration several times over the course of the debuff. Use these openings to your advantage and hit your opponent with your best shot!
(Of course, opponents can attack the ball and send it back towards Ganondorf, so be on your toes...!)
And for the final move:
Neutral Special: Twilight Vortex
Ganondorf summons a portal to the Twilight Realm that will suck in nearby players. (This includes Ganondorf himself...!) Opponents that touch the center of the vortex will be dealt sustained damage for as long as they remain there. Ganondorf can also charge the move to increase the vortex's gravitational strength and radius, and he can alter its summoned position with the control stick while he charges.
This is what cements Gandondorf's moveset. Move players into your Curse fields to follow up with smash attacks and Lightning Strikes. Use it to force your opponents to run out of its radius (and thus moving instead of blocking). Have it yank back more mobile targets that would otherwise escape your grasp. Use it to screw up your enemies' recoveries. Change the timing and pace of battle by manipulating spatial movement in unexpected ways. Increase Ganondorf's own mobility and use it as a gap closer.
Note, this is also Ganondorf's third jump. (Thought I missed that with Lightning Strike, eh?) Create a vortex just above or ahead of Ganondorf to shoot him in that direction.
Anyway, that's it. Sorry, gotta vent that hype somewhere...
none because waifu emblem is the dumbest nameSo what Waifu Emblem: Awakening character does everyone want to see? It could be anyone regardless of popularity. Just someone you personally want to have in. Beyond Lucinia of course
Morgan is one of my favorites and has IMO some of the best lines. It also could be viable as an "avatar" character replacement.
User 73706
Banned
Waifu Emblem Trainer using three Sylveon confirmed for Brawl
SenorArdilla
Member
Just be-caws of Waifus? You just need to find a caws to believe in.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
I like the idea for his down and side specials, but his choke-holder move Brawl introduced should definitely stay and I think the twilight vortex is a bit of an obscure thing to reference for him. Wasn't most of that kinda stuff more Zant's doing in TP anyway? It just doesn't seem very indicative of Ganondorf overall.
Also playing more Project M with him, I think for his normal's you could pretty effectively change a lot of Ganondorf's moves to be him using his huge sword while still having the same exact stats and hitboxes. Stuff like him raising his boot for a few seconds and then dropping it could easily just be him raising his sword and doing the same thing. Could be a good compromise between keeping fans of his Melee incarnation happy while also appeasing people who want him to better represent his games.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
The triangle being completed in Smash would be neat.
Ephraim or Sigurd? Ephraim all the way. I just based that choice off of hair color alone. We don't need anymore blue hairs. Plus, Sacred Stones is fun.