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cj_iwakura · Feb 24, 2016

There's some really cool stuff in SMTIV Final. I've already seen most of it, so what the hell, let's talk about it!

DEMONS WILL INCLUDES ENDGAME SMT IV FINAL SPOILERS. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

New Characters (No real spoilers)

(Nozomi)

(Hallelujah)

(Asahi)

(Nikkari)

(Gaston)

(Manabu)

(Toki)

Redesigned & Returning Demons
(ENDGAME SPOILERS FOR FINAL)

Miroku

Satan

Last chance.

Guess who!

grebby · Feb 24, 2016

Man... man... man... Atlus USA needs to come through. YHVH looks amazing.

Hugstable · Feb 24, 2016

HOLY SHIT THAT YHVH

cj_iwakura · Feb 24, 2016

Guess I'll upload the rest of the new demons too.

Lucifer

Merkabah

Inanna

Odin

Mithra

Dagda

Sukuna-Hikona

Napaea

There's a SERIOUS WHAT IN THE FRESH HELL character spoilers I'm debating leaving out of this thread, since I figured YHVH was a given, unless people really want it.

Soriku · Feb 24, 2016

Dying to find out what's happening here lol.

cj_iwakura · Feb 24, 2016

Soriku said:
Dying to find out what's happening here lol.

Or not, cat's out of that bag.

Really creepy, Corpse Party level stuff.

I guess it's not really him. I have a direct render if you want.

And did you know about this?

QuiteWhittle · Feb 24, 2016

Woah.

cj_iwakura · Feb 24, 2016

QuiteWhittle said:
Woah.

Interesting...

What's he saying?

'Your... demons... are a bit different? This must be... a samurai's skill...
If only... I'd read more manga..."

not really

cj_iwakura · Feb 24, 2016

I assume this is Nanashi's True Demon end:

Eh, decent third place, behind Devil Survivor's True Bel Overlord and Demi-Fiend.

CSX · Feb 24, 2016

QuiteWhittle said:
Woah.

This just makes the wait for official localization even more painful

OmegaSmash · Feb 24, 2016

At this point I'm dying to know what the hell is the Anarchy end.

Last I checked, it had you killing Flynn and then reviving him as a puppet, killing every one of the gods (and thanks to Dagda's power, their followers), having the Ashura-Kai, Gaeans, Hunters and Samurai team up against you, and then taking on YHVH's true form.

I'm sure I missed a lot of stuffs.

Also, the Peace end is probably one of the happier endings in any SMT game.

Nachos · Feb 24, 2016

First image is Nozomi, finally with a portrait. First dude's name is Nikkari. Yellow jacket is Hallelujah. 420 Agidyne It To The Face is Manabu.

Unnamed demons, from top to bottom, are Inanna, Mithra, and Sukuna-Hikona.

QuiteWhittle said:
Woah.

Yeah, that's the part where you take on YHWH with two separate teams after Satan, being the fusion of Lucifer and Merkabah, reverts back to Johnathan and Walter in defiance. Nanashi's team is just him and his demons.

Soriku · Feb 24, 2016

cj_iwakura said:
Or not, cat's out of that bag.

Really creepy, Corpse Party level stuff.

I guess it's not really him. I have a direct render if you want.

And did you know about this?

Saw that design but didn't know he also had lightsabers

Btw about Fiends:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/181823-shin-megami-tensei-iv-final/73296907

They are all in the secret dungeon called Toukyou(written by the kanji east+conceit)

-The dungeon have total 46 floors.
-Only appears on a difficulty 'war' and above.
-The floor keep going wider as deep as you goes.
-You can't view a map inside.
-You can't flee from the battle here.
-Demon here can't be recruited.

The fiends are on these floors
2F David
5F Matador
9F White Rider
14F Red Rider
20F Black Rider
27F Pale Rider
36F Trumpeter
46F Mother Harlot

-They drop incense items
-They forever gone after defeated, no respawn like in 4
-You will be kicked out of the dungeon if you can't kill them in a 10 turn limited but the boss HP won't restored.

http://ysokuhou.blog.jp/archives/54738499.html

Also do you have a render of YHVH-Satan?

cj_iwakura · Feb 24, 2016

Soriku said:
Saw that design but didn't know he also had lightsabers

Btw about Fiends:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/181823-shin-megami-tensei-iv-final/73296907

Also do you have a render of YHVH-Satan?

Never fought a single fiend after David in vanilla, so that seems more reasonable.

I haven't seen UHVH-Satan, it's not in the rips I have.

Sub_Level · Feb 24, 2016

Odin carried me through Persona 3's endgame (not that it was super hard but still)

His new look is awesome.

The Silver · Feb 24, 2016

I see Satan lost its boobs

cj_iwakura · Feb 24, 2016

The Silver said:
I see Satan lost its boobs

The seven heads makes me think of The Harlot.

Ten horns, too. Can't be coincidence.

OmegaSmash · Feb 24, 2016

I believe the demon below Dagda is Thor.

madstarr12 · Feb 24, 2016

Woah, Oh my God....literally!

Sakura · Feb 24, 2016

Soriku said:
Dying to find out what's happening here lol.

As soon as he started smirking during the 3 way battle I was like, god dammit lol.

Just take it with you. · Feb 24, 2016

I was wondering if/when YHWH would get his own hands dirty again. Did he run out of angels to send?

Soriku · Feb 24, 2016

You've come to the wrong neighborhood, motherfucker (I've also seen a picture like this with multiple Trumpeters):

Satan:

Flynn standing before YHVH:

YHVH fused with Satan:

Hugstable · Feb 24, 2016

SHIT JUST GOT REAL

Sakura · Feb 24, 2016

Soriku said:
YHVH fused with Satan:

That's just YHVH.

Soriku · Feb 24, 2016

Sakura said:
That's just YHVH.

I heard Satan fuses with him unless it was wrong information. Is it just a phase 2 YHVH? He does have horns and wings.

Sakura · Feb 24, 2016

Soriku said:
I heard Satan fuses with him unless it was wrong information. Is it just a phase 2 YHVH? He does have horns and wings.

It is phase 2.
At least they didn't fuse in the Kizuna route. I didn't play the other one.

NeonZ · Feb 24, 2016

cj_iwakura said:
The seven heads makes me think of The Harlot.

Ten horns, too. Can't be coincidence.

Satan's new design seems to be based on the first beast of Revelations. In Revelations, Mother Harlot is seen riding a beast with a similar description but with red skin, and her SMT design is based on that, with the beast taking characteristics both from the early beast that appears by itself and the later one that she rides.

YHVH's "final form" also seems to take some elements from the Demiurge/Yaldabaoth (not the SMT design, but the Gnostic one) with the snake-like body and the flaming head. Although all the other heads and those wings are original.

marmoka · Feb 24, 2016

Oh my Gods those spoilers!!!

Flynn and the rest of the gang fighting against Yhvh by themselves without the help of other demons. Flynn looks like a demon, seems to be a demon. Does this mean Lucifer and Merkavah (Law and Chaos, Heaven and Hell) are fighting together against a common enemy? Together with the Neutral? Is this alliance possible? This is blowing my mind right now.

I need this game now!!

Kanann · Feb 24, 2016

please don't use wannabe adult toki picture

give me back no eyebrow toki

seriously

NeonZ · Feb 25, 2016

There are pictures of several unannounced DLC packs which apparently are on cart. At least one of them is incomplete though.

Beach DLC

New demons Mephisto and Cleopatra

All of Mikado turning into demons?

YHVH

-style battle

(2 parties fighting at once, boss with two forms)

against Stephen, with the

second

party this time composed by... the main characters from SMTI, II, Nocturne and IV. Aside from Flynn, they only have placeholder pictures right now though.

cj_iwakura · Feb 25, 2016

Wow, that's one hell of a great uber boss idea.

Soriku · Feb 25, 2016

Holy shit

What even is Stephen?

Neoleo2143 · Feb 25, 2016

Soriku said:
Holy shit

What even is Stephen?

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he were a piece of the Great Will, dude pulls crazy shit on a regular basis.

True Fire · Feb 25, 2016

Soriku said:
Holy shit

What even is Stephen?

He's probably the real God, which would be a fantastic plot twist.

Reversed · Feb 25, 2016

I can't believe the way

Navarre died

. :lol

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Navarre

Having died before the game due to drowing by accident while he was peeking at a female hunter bathing, Navarre's spirit encounters the Nanashi and possesses him. As a partner in battle he supports the party with attack-type items and support magic. On the field Navarre aids Nanashi by using the Jade Mamorigatana (ヒスイの守&#20992 to cut down obstacles that block their path. This requires spiritual energy to be used.

Now these lifesavers make sense to me.

Soriku · Feb 25, 2016

Is Nanashi his actual name or is it a title like Demifiend?

marmoka · Feb 25, 2016

NeonZ said:
There are pictures of several unannounced DLC packs which apparently are on cart. At least one of them is incomplete though.

Beach DLC

New demons Mephisto and Cleopatra

All of Mikado turning into demons?

YHVH

-style battle

(2 parties fighting at once, boss with two forms)

against Stephen, with the

second

party this time composed by... the main characters from SMTI, II, Nocturne and IV. Aside from Flynn, they only have placeholder pictures right now though.

Atlus!! Please bring this game to the west soon!!

cj_iwakura · Feb 25, 2016

Soriku said:
Is Nanashi his actual name or is it a title like Demifiend?

It means 'Nameless'.

NeonZ · Feb 26, 2016

Soriku said:
Is Nanashi his actual name or is it a title like Demifiend?

Based on what people playing the game said, it's his actual name, and you can't change it, since it's mentioned by voiced dialogue. You can choose a Hunter nickname though.

Sakura · Feb 26, 2016

NeonZ said:
Based on what people playing the game said, it's his actual name, and you can't change it, since it's mentioned by voiced dialogue. You can choose a Hunter nickname though.

Asahi is the only one that calls you Nanashi though after you choose a name.

Octavianus · Feb 26, 2016

What did they do to Satan?

DrunkShogun · Feb 26, 2016

The new designs seem to be a lot better than some of the redesigns in smt4 original. Well better start hoping Atlus brings this to the uk a lot quicker than they did last time.

NeonZ · Feb 26, 2016

Octavianus said:
What did they do to Satan?

Made it closer to his biblical description?

Satan's original design was one of Kaneko's rare designs where he pretty much disregarded the source material and just drew whatever he wanted.

Octavianus · Feb 26, 2016

NeonZ said:
Made it closer to his biblical description?

Satan's original design was one of Kaneko's rare designs where he pretty much disregarded the source material and just drew whatever he wanted.

Yeah and for good reasons apparently. This one looks like butt.

bring back Kaneko please.

GloriousBagel · Feb 26, 2016

IVF is looking to be so rad, Atlus where's the western localization announcement >:0

Also why is there so many YHVH?

cj_iwakura · Feb 26, 2016

Octavianus said:
Yeah and for good reasons apparently. This one looks like butt.

bring back Kaneko please.

Strongly disagree, both are great. Kaneko is talented, but Doi's putting in work. Be glad they hacks from IV vanilla didn't redesign him.

Dantis · Feb 26, 2016

The core cast looks terrible, but man, most of the demons are great.

I actually think that Doi is miles better at designing demons than Soejima.

george_us · Feb 26, 2016

YHVH looks amazing. Love the design.

asagami_ · Feb 26, 2016

Man Nozomi is so hot.. Especially compared to her former "portrait".

Shorts for the win!

Octavianus · Feb 26, 2016

cj_iwakura said:
Be glad they hacks from IV vanilla didn't redesign him.

Ugh, fair enough. I'll add that I am actually warming up to some of the new human characters which were easily the worst part of IV next to what they did to Lucifer.

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