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Scorpio presentation pictured within AMD's Vega/Ryzen booth
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Grim Patron
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Scorpio
I understood that reference
Toadthemushroom
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Scorpio by AMD.
Yes, it's the same.
Ricerocket
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Cool. It's powered by AMD.
Ryu Hayabusa
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LelouchZero
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It's definitely using Vega, but so far AMD's "New Horzion" theme has been used when talking about Zen, with Vega having a small feature at the event last month.
They haven't really said much publicly about Vega yet so the "New Horizon" theme is probably oriented around both Ryzen and Vega.
This is featured on their New Horizon page on the AMD website.
I presume there's not one for Vega yet because they haven't really shown or said much about it.
They haven't really said much publicly about Vega yet so the "New Horizon" theme is probably oriented around both Ryzen and Vega.
This is featured on their New Horizon page on the AMD website.
I presume there's not one for Vega yet because they haven't really shown or said much about it.
Nothing. I'm just trying to get everyone's hopes up to make that disappointment sting that much more, including my own.
Interfectum
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RichiRamjag
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I just don't see how we're getting true 4K and 60fps for a reasonable price. Gonna wait and see though.
For Xbox One games probably not. We know they hired or were hiring an engineer to work on 360 compatibility for the Scorpio.
Inspectah_Deck
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Source: https://www.computerbase.de/2016-08/amd-grafikkarten-marktanteil/
Translation:
Zen-Cores and new Graphics as semi-sutom-solutions won´t come before 2018, hinted AMD boss Lisa Su in small round.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
I'd be more worried about the problems caused for forwards compatibility of Scorpio if it doesn't have new architecture.
Some of you guys really just want to believe huh.
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Ah, another thread to fill up my blocked users list.
LukasTaves
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Yeah it is, but why put it next to a stand showcasing a Ryzen + Vega setup?
TheGreyHulk
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Who said anything about 60fps? That's always dependent on the game.
Expect xbox one level graphics at 4k. It's totally doable with scorpio and at a reasonable price too. It's not like they're putting a cpu and separate gpu in it. It's one chip to keep costs low snd with vega, you dont need as many gpu cores than if it were polaris based. 6TF is not a massive number for Q4 2017.
Isn't that just a refrain of the conference they did which also included PS Pro in the slides?
They are pimping both Vega and Ryzen in that AMD booth. Doesn't imply Scorpio with Ryzen.
Lisa Su has been pretty clear.
Of course you can feel free to mock me if i'm wrong.
They are pimping both Vega and Ryzen in that AMD booth. Doesn't imply Scorpio with Ryzen.
Lisa Su has been pretty clear.
Of course you can feel free to mock me if i'm wrong.
Calm Mind
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I wouldn't read too much into it. But I will say this, AMD knows what they're doing. Hopefully, we can get a definitive answer from someone on the showfloor before the speculation madness sets in.
TheGreyHulk
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Cuz itmight be using both, honestly we do not know. I wouldnt even take the ceo's comments as a 100% no.
It's def using vega. Cpu as tweaked jaguars seem to go against MS' mission objective for Scorpio and this is a big order for AMD, so i wouldnt be shocked if it actually is in the system.
General Lee
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The Scorpio is just in reference to AMD's console business, it has no bearing on Zen.
It's from this video:
https://youtu.be/4DEfj2MRLtA?t=20m16s
As for Vega, consoles don't use discrete cards, it's an embedded SOC that may or may not have similar amount of compute units compared to a desktop GPU. There is no RX 480 in PS4 Pro, there's an APU with the same amount of CU's. Scorpio will have features from Vega no doubt, and maybe even beyond, just like PS4 Pro has Polaris features and some extra. I wish people would figure this out and stop thinking like Scorpio will have a desktop Zen processor and desktop Vega GPU in it. It's all going to be custom not identical to any desktop product.
It's from this video:
https://youtu.be/4DEfj2MRLtA?t=20m16s
As for Vega, consoles don't use discrete cards, it's an embedded SOC that may or may not have similar amount of compute units compared to a desktop GPU. There is no RX 480 in PS4 Pro, there's an APU with the same amount of CU's. Scorpio will have features from Vega no doubt, and maybe even beyond, just like PS4 Pro has Polaris features and some extra. I wish people would figure this out and stop thinking like Scorpio will have a desktop Zen processor and desktop Vega GPU in it. It's all going to be custom not identical to any desktop product.
All of them are future AMD products.
Pretty sure that's an assumption on your end.
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This is nonsense. They already showed basic internal layout of scorpio. It will be APU + 12x1GB GDDR5 chips.
And for CPU, chances for Zen are minimal. It will again be low-powered CPU, not Jaguar but one of its [slightly] upgraded versions.
But wouldn't programming games for a new architecture complicate those running on the Xbox One. Is the new one still x86 based?
Like to use a hypothetical ps5 for example. Say instead x86, Sony used some advanced version of CELL, that was easier to work with, on that system, wouldn't the software designed for it not work on the PS4? Where as running PS4 games on the new CELL PS5 would be easier to get working?
I don't get it
hopefully no one. taking the time to go through and do all of that would be incredibly sad
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
It's all x86.
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