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Smash Bros Brawl Dojo Official Update Thread: Goodbye, Cherry-don
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EmCeeGramr
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i dont see why items can be left on with certain ones turned off. item play was a no in melee because occassionally an explosive crate/pill/barrel would spawn on top of you during an attack animation, and you couldnt turn them off. id say 90% of items can be dealt with strategically, even pokemon (bomb ombs tend to walk from off screen so thats a no). certain characters attributes are tied to special item utilization (thrown item power ie) so i wouldnt call it necessarily fairer to ignore them
edit; and d3 chain throw isnt broken, its over once you run out of ground to run forward
hmmm mushroomy kingdom
edit; and d3 chain throw isnt broken, its over once you run out of ground to run forward
hmmm mushroomy kingdom
MisterHero
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why can't you play with more than 4 stock if you use "more random" elements like items?
since everyone's afraid of something exploding in their faces then why not give everyone more lives?
like between 5-10?
besides, you shouldn't be throwing ANYTHING at your feet in Smash Bros. jump and down-throw it if you want to keep it close. why is this so hard?
since everyone's afraid of something exploding in their faces then why not give everyone more lives?
like between 5-10?
besides, you shouldn't be throwing ANYTHING at your feet in Smash Bros. jump and down-throw it if you want to keep it close. why is this so hard?
EmCeeGramr
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even considering items are distributed randomly, their usage adheres to rules and guidelines i can adjust to. i run from star powered peeps, i throw shit at hammer wielders, i make sure to avoid a straight line of sight in front of or above someone with a bat. figuring out the best way to use and counter the arsenal of items adds another layer of depth to this game`.
Section 3 complete!
Can't believe I went through 7500 posts. Haha... oh i'm nuts.
@Probation
I think it's because, even though it IS random, the distribution of random *powerful* items isn't equal. Say, the hammer for example. It's the pinaccle of powerful items, and you may only see it once per game. Or the Starman similarly. *shrug*
I don't mind though, don't try to ask me more about it. Tis all a guess for me. I love me some random item fun.
Can't believe I went through 7500 posts. Haha... oh i'm nuts.
@Probation
I think it's because, even though it IS random, the distribution of random *powerful* items isn't equal. Say, the hammer for example. It's the pinaccle of powerful items, and you may only see it once per game. Or the Starman similarly. *shrug*
I don't mind though, don't try to ask me more about it. Tis all a guess for me. I love me some random item fun.
RocketDarkness
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Gee, thanks. See if I ever take the three seconds to spell your name correctly again, Tataran. =(Tatnen said:
And the problem with trying to define these rules is this, Tanthen: if you say you aren't allowed to run away for longer than 20 seconds, people will run away for 19 seconds, fight for however long is necessary, and then repeat. Heck, that's why some levels in Melee are banned in the first place. I really don't see the issue, in the end.
Jiggy37 said:
Actually, I love Big Blue, it's one of the most fun stages from Melee. Poke Floats is horrible though. I would rather concentrate on fighting my opponent than trying to remember the pattern and exact timing to move through a stage. And it's movements aren't telegraphed the way Rainbow Cruise is, so unless you remember exactly when, say, Onix is gonna come through, you end up jumping/dropping at the wrong time, and die.
Firestorm said:
Well, I don't know about Smashballs in 1v1. On the one hand, it's pretty much a guaranteed kill, on the other hand, you have to fight over it in the first place. I'd be willing to try it out at least.
As far as other items are concerned, it depends on how much you can turn off. Once I get the game, I'll give you my opinions.
Why don't we just take a vote of all GAFfers in the tournament, and let them decide on whether to use items or not? Or put all the items and non-items folks into different brackets and end with 4 matches with the final 2 from each bracket, two with items and two without.
DavidDayton said:
Well, I was actually speaking in a more general sense for the tournament scene. If we were going to, for instance, form a NeoGAF league, I would suggest running multiple different types of tournaments, each with different rules, and not trying to force a single playstyle to apply to all tournaments. So we'd have 1v1 tournaments, team tournaments, free4all tournaments, and then you just pick the one you want to participate in and wait for that weekend to play.
RevenantKioku
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Horseshit! Level is mad fun. Can I post the one video I have of 4 gaffers playing it?Firestorm said:
You uh, don't entirely have to worry about campers because of the laser that takes them out or knocks away part of the upper flooring that lets you easily get down.
....justchris said:
Have you played this game?
Annoying Old Party Man
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Hey, any european gaffers have the game yet?
I've been trying to find random opponents for some online gaming but it does not find anything. Is there a server lockout or something, or there are not enough users for now?
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Also, where the hell is the spectator mode? Is it an unlockable?
I've been trying to find random opponents for some online gaming but it does not find anything. Is there a server lockout or something, or there are not enough users for now?
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Also, where the hell is the spectator mode? Is it an unlockable?
DrForester
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Don't know if this is old, or authentic, or worthy of creating a new thread, but I found it on another forum.
I think one could also assume that it's starting roster characters only.
I think one could also assume that it's starting roster characters only.
MisterHero said:
Dude. Tournaments need to finish ya know >_>;; 4 stock was standard in Melee because 5 stock took too long and 3 stock seemed to be too little time to allow comebacks. After last year Evo wants 3 stock since Smash STILL took too long to finish (community likes double elimination, best of 3). With Brawl, I think it's a safe bet it'll be 3 stock. The thing is, 3 stock in Brawl takes about the same amount of time as 4 stock in Melee...
Probationsmack said:
The problem with some of those are they offer reward with no risk whatsoever to the first player who reaches it. Starman? Completely invincible, absolutely no drawback. Heart Container or Maximum Tomato? Heal 50% or 100% with absolutely no drawback. Spicy Curry? Rapid fire attack at all time with no drawback (unless you're against Fox/Falco/Ness/Lucas ^_^).
For items in Smash, DrHadji/kirbykid wrote the only argument I think I've ever found to be founded by good support over here: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=114808
It applies to Melee, but most of the arguments carry over to Brawl.
RevenantKioku said:
Played it. But that laser didn't appear for quite some time iirc =[ And it was an FFA so I was getting my ass beat while they weren't really doing much down there.
viewtiful_dru
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Hey Firestorm, is your tourney online?
I'm down to play, when are you having sign ups?
I'm down to play, when are you having sign ups?
DrForester said:
Several GAFfers (and me too since I talked to the guy running the tournament I signed up at) have confirmed that many stores are ignoring the rules set by Nintendo and making their own. The store I am competing at, the guy has said he will be bringing in WaveBirds for players to use. will use a flat stage (not unnecessarily Battlefield), will be longer than 1 minute, and have items turned off.
Also none of the screens I saw had GameStop TV on them. Should be pretty big, I think I was #132 on the sign-up sheet.
Iam Canadian
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Jiggy, if all goes well, I'll have my first set of quotes to you tonight.
I'm a bit busy right now, so I'm not sure when I'll be able to get to my second set, but I'll try my hardest to get it done this week.
I'm a bit busy right now, so I'm not sure when I'll be able to get to my second set, but I'll try my hardest to get it done this week.
crowphoenix
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Firestorm said:
Is there going to be a max for eligible spots? Not that I think it's a bad idea, just making sure I need to pay more attention than I have been lately.
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Iam Canadian
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Part of the reason that I want to have my second section done this week is that I have a dreadful feeling that this thread will be done come March 9th. :/
Iam Canadian
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Fenix said:Huzzah! I just finished Super Paper Mario which means my Wii backlog is no more. It is ready to be a full-fledged Brawl machine come sunday.
Also, I'm back to working on the retrospective, should be done later tonight... Jiggy, do I PM it to you in ready-to-post format?
* = I started it
Wii Backlog:
Super Paper Mario*
Resident Evil 4*
Trauma Center: New Blood
No More Heroes
Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure
360 Backlog
Blue Dragon*
Assassin's Creed
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
DS Backlog
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin*
Apollo Justice Ace Attorney
Keru_Shiri
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So, has Sp0rsk set an expiration date for this thread yet? I need to know how long I have to get my other section finished.
RevenantKioku
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It was a bit rhetorical.justchris said:
Some characters can kill themselves with their FS if you're not careful, some FS are more powerful on other stages than others. I've had matches where someone got the smash ball 3 times and still lost.I guess really, I'm just sickened by the thought of what 'competitive play' will do to the fun of this awesome game.
Iam Canadian
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I'm just going to toss a Pokemon prediction in there. Probably a list of various new Pokemon in the game, a la the Assist Trophy one we got.
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Tonight: THE GRIM SPECTRE OF DEATH.
As in Game Overs. And continuing from said game overs.
As in Game Overs. And continuing from said game overs.
CreatureX3
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Oh secrets, secrets, secrets!
Iam Canadian
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It looks like this update implies that at some point in the Subspace Emissary, Peach, Lucas, and the Ice Climbers form a team.
Either that or you can take whatever characters you want into the SSE at some point. I honestly don't know.
Either that or you can take whatever characters you want into the SSE at some point. I honestly don't know.
Keru_Shiri
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I'm betting that other "secret" mode is all-star mode. And that's an honest prediction, as I have no idea what game modes were spilled in the spoiler thread, nor can I read the japanese menues when I play at my friends.
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