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LiK · May 29, 2013

So the Japanese version was released today (find the thread here) but Uchikoshi just mentioned this on his twitter.

http://www.twitter.com/uchikoshi/status/339619229621968896

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Why did they remove the Escape Rooms?

RyougaSaotome said:
Uchikoshi on why they cut the puzzle stuff:

理由は「パズルゲームはちょっと苦手なんだよねー」という方々にも、ぜひこの物語を知って頂きたかったからです

Click to expand...

We cut the puzzle sections because we wanted people who weren't good at puzzle games to be able to enjoy the story as well.

Click to expand...

Essentially, there were people saying "I suck at puzzle games but the story looks really interesting ='(" Hence the sound novel approach.

He also goes on to say that if newcomers feel like they want a little more, they should definitely grab the DS version with puzzles.

It's also worth noting that 999 iOS has a Flowchart, which is fucking awesome.

GayForMaster · May 29, 2013

They're probably gonna do vector art. Fuck that shit, Pixel Art > Vector.

I'll stick to my glorious superior DS version.

Mushroomer25 · May 29, 2013

No puzzle rooms, and a core element of the story probably doesn't make any damn sense now.

I'd be curious about a VLR port though. That was hand-made for a touchscreen-only system (Vita), and could benefit from losing some of the puzzles.

Hours Left · May 29, 2013

Yay?

I'm happy for the people that will finally get to try the first game if they didn't have access to the DS version, but at the same time I'm a bit wary of this version for some very specific spoilery reasons. Hopefully some impressions will pop up soon.

Though I would still strongly suggest that anyone new to the series start with the DS version if they can. Also, NEWCOMERS, PLEASE DON'T READ ANY SPOILERS ABOUT THIS GAME. IT DEFEATS THE ENTIRE PURPOSE.

perorist · May 29, 2013

Mushroomer25 said:
No puzzle rooms

Hold on a minute here

backlot · May 29, 2013

No puzzle rooms? I'd call that an improvement.

Avallon · May 29, 2013

How the hell do you do this game without two screens?

hunterslasher13 · May 29, 2013

I kinda want a Vita port now

Squire · May 29, 2013

Fuckin' called it man.

LiK · May 29, 2013

Gunloc said:
NEWCOMERS, PLEASE DON'T READ ANY SPOILERS ABOUT THIS GAME. IT DEFEATS THE ENTIRE PURPOSE.

*fistbump*

ArtHands · May 29, 2013

Avallon said:
How the hell do you do this game without two screens?

static pictures with speech bubbles, no kidding

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/2...nine-doors-is-now-on-ios-but-without-puzzles/

GWX · May 29, 2013

I'll buy it.

twentytwo22 · May 29, 2013

I got 999 problems but a puzzle room ain't one of them.

Avallon · May 29, 2013

ArtHands said:
static pictures with speech bubbles, no kidding

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/2...nine-doors-is-now-on-ios-but-without-puzzles/

It won't be the same...

dragonlife · May 29, 2013

Aksys's thunder stolen.

Kyou · May 29, 2013

what happens to all the dialog from the puzzle rooms?

Hours Left · May 29, 2013

Even though the absent puzzle rooms suck, there's a much bigger issue that anyone familiar with the game should be worried about. A MUCH bigger issue... :/

javac · May 29, 2013

Why no Android T_T What's the point of my 5inch 1080p screen if I can't enjoy any of this goodness?

Ridley327 · May 29, 2013

Kyou said:
what happens to all the dialog from the puzzle rooms?

Well, one of the screens is from one of the first rooms, so I imagine they'll stay intact.

Unless you mean the fun little banter while interacting with whoever you're with, which would be a tragedy later on.

Non-plot related spoilers

So help me if they got rid of the cheerleading bit...

Pappasman · May 29, 2013

Removing the game part of the game and potentially fucking up

the end sequence

. uhh....

Aeana · May 29, 2013

Yeah, screw actually finding out how things are handled in this version. I declare it garbage right now.

vareon · May 29, 2013

Is this an Ace Attorney HD "autumn"?

EDIT:

Okay, since I am planning to get into the series and you guys don't seem happy with the changes: without being spoilery, can I know why I should choose the DS version instead?

SmithnCo · May 29, 2013

Wait, no puzzle rooms? The fuck?

Terareflection · May 29, 2013

Damn I was getting really excited, but it seems I would be playing a severely gimped version, huh?

Eusis · May 29, 2013

javac said:
Why no Android T_T What's the point of my 5inch 1080p screen if I can't enjoy any of this goodness?

Bet it comes later. Or so I'd hope.

EDIT: No puzzles? Well, the game IS 75% story so for anyone that just doesn't want to give a damn about those this is probably fine.

LiK · May 29, 2013

Aeana said:
Yeah, screw actually finding out how things are handled in this version. I declare it garbage right now.

lol

vareon said:
Is this an Ace Attorney HD "autumn"?

EDIT:

Okay, since I am planning to get into the series and you guys don't seem happy with the changes: without being spoilery, can I know why I should choose the DS version instead?

if you can get the DS version, get it since that's how it was meant to be played. i'm gonna repost the explanation he gave for the cuts in the OP.

Bjoern the Smexy · May 29, 2013

So, double dipping imminent, apparently!

This is pretty cool

EDIT: WAIT, FUCK THAT!!!

siliconera said:
The escape the room puzzles were removed.
Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/2...-ios-but-without-puzzles/#rBbDSJC80YxHoqW3.99

THE FUCK IS THIS?!

kewlmyc · May 29, 2013

I wonder how they'll handle the

final reveal with Ayane considering the Sudoku puzzle.

Aeana said:
Yeah, screw actually finding out how things are handled in this version. I declare it garbage right now.

Welcome to NeoGAF.

IrishNinja · May 29, 2013

happy to see more people play this one! VR stuff & Phoenix Wright are both perfect fits for the mobile format, too

hunterslasher13 said:
I kinda want a Vita port now

this would be really cool to see as well, kinda feel bad for anyone picking up the series there from VLR

kayos90 · May 29, 2013

Aeana said:
Yeah, screw actually finding out how things are handled in this version. I declare it garbage right now.

Damn gurl.

Paper Sparrow · May 29, 2013

Aeana said:
Yeah, screw actually finding out how things are handled in this version. I declare it garbage right now.

I really want to know how things will be handled. It could be creative in its own right.

TheFLYINGManga_Ka · May 29, 2013

If its in HD ill double dip. In the meantime, still need to finish my DS game.

Blablurn · May 29, 2013

So is the game worth playing with those cuts?

Hours Left · May 29, 2013

animlboogy said:
Fuck yes! I'll get this and probably the 3DS version of VLR as soon as I'm done. I was hoping there would be some more reasonable way to play this game, it's too odd to have it unavailable with a sequel out there that people warn you off if you haven't played the first.

They reprinted the DS version, it's not that hard to get a copy of.

HardRojo · May 29, 2013

vareon said:
Is this an Ace Attorney HD "autumn"?

EDIT:

Okay, since I am planning to get into the series and you guys don't seem happy with the changes: without being spoilery, can I know why I should choose the DS version instead?

Simple, the DS game has all the content, this is a barebones edition.

backlot · May 29, 2013

I seriously think the game is better off without the puzzle segments. Sure, maybe they were fun once but after your first play through they just become impediments to seeing the story.

Ridley327 · May 29, 2013

Blablurn said:
So is the game worth playing with those cuts?

It's really hard to say why those puzzles will be missed, but there's good reasons for their existence, even if you do repeat them a lot.

Cody_D165 · May 29, 2013

DS version will likely remain superior.

Paper Sparrow · May 29, 2013

Blablurn said:
So is the game worth playing with those cuts?

We won't know until Japan impressions start coming in. To me it could go either way. The puzzles weren't the greatest part of 999, but they added breaks from the tension and a lot of depth to characters.

Byronic Hero · May 29, 2013

Don't care that the escape segments are out, I'll still be buying this day 1 just for the enhanced music and updated graphics.

2 games on iOS this year, I've never bought two games for my iPhone within 6 months of each other. If all these ports keep happening, I may have to invest in an iPad.

Hours Left · May 29, 2013

backlot said:
I seriously think the game is better off without the puzzle segments. Sure, maybe they were fun once but after your first play through they just become impediments to seeing the story.

The repeating of puzzles was lame, but I think a better solution would be just including an option to skip them after you beat them once.

Blablurn · May 29, 2013

Paper Sparrow said:
We won't know until Japan impressions start coming in. To me it could go either way. The puzzles weren't the greatest part of 999, but they added breaks from the tension and a lot of depth to characters.

Thanks for the answer

RyougaSaotome · May 29, 2013

Uchikoshi on why they cut the puzzle stuff:

理由は「パズルゲームはちょっと苦手なんだよねー」という方々にも、ぜひこの物語を知って頂きたかったからです

We cut the puzzle sections because we wanted people who weren't good at puzzle games to be able to enjoy the story as well.

Essentially, there were people saying "I suck at puzzle games but the story looks really interesting ='(" Hence the sound novel approach.

He also goes on to say that if newcomers feel like they want a little more, they should definitely grab the DS version with puzzles.

It's also worth noting that 999 iOS has a Flowchart, which is fucking awesome.

Raika · May 29, 2013

Sure, remove the meat of the game from the game. If that's the case why not just put it on the iBook store as a book or something.

LiK · May 29, 2013

RyougaSaotome said:
Uchikoshi on why they cut the puzzle stuff:

Essentially, there were people saying "I suck at puzzle games but the story looks really interesting ='(" Hence the sound novel approach.

He also goes on to say that if newcomers feel like they want a little more, they should definitely grab the DS version with puzzles.

It's also worth noting that 999 iOS has a Flowchart, which is fucking awesome.

that's a better translation. added to OP. thanks bro.

RyougaSaotome · May 29, 2013

Raika said:
Sure, remove the meat of the game from the game. If that's the case why not just put it on the iBook store as a book or something.

I don't think you understand that sound novels/visual novels/adventure games have had a place in the Japanese market for a very long time.

Thoraxes · May 29, 2013

RyougaSaotome said:
I don't think you understand that sound novels/visual novels/adventure games have had a place in the Japanese market for a very long time.

I was about to bring that up.

LiK · May 29, 2013

RyougaSaotome said:
I don't think you understand that sound novels/visual novels/adventure games have had a place in the Japanese market for a very long time.

Yea, they're huge over there.

Glass Rebel · May 29, 2013

Mhh, very pretty but without the puzzle rooms and

dat double screen twist

I'll just stick to the DS version.

GhostTrick · May 29, 2013

EVERYONE should play the DS version for OBVIOUS reasons.

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