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Respawns Abbie Heppe: "We're not dropping the resolution" of Titanfall for launch

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Still do think this is the highest possibility of what happened.

"A canary trap is a method for exposing an information leak by giving different versions of a sensitive document to each of several suspects and seeing which version gets leaked. Special attention is paid to the quality of the prose of the unique language, in the hopes that the suspect will repeat it verbatim in the leak, thereby identifying the version of the document."

*source
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canary_trap

Considering how much damage Cboat did to MS before the XBO launch it wouldnt be surprising if they did the following above in order to stop him from hurting their best next chance at system sales during the Titanfall launch.

People were mentioning this back when he mentioned 16 maps. It was so specific that it'd be easy to feed different numbers to a bunch of different suspects and see what matches.

Map count, resolution, texture quality.

Assuming a 'final' count between 8 and 16, resolution of: 720, 792, 900 or 1080, and texture quality of "matches alpha" or "matches beta":
9 choices times 4 choices times 2 choices.

That's easily 72 different possibilities they could get out there and see who says what.
 

NHale

Member
Indeed. It is not like developers never lie.

Or PR. Funny enough some of those that applauded and approved Penello's meltdown about Direct X, 30% performance and technical fellows are also taking Dko5 and Abbie Heppe words as a guaranteed truth like if anything a dev/PR says is always true.

I was expecting they would have learned the lesson after the last time they were played like a fiddle and expect for the facts to come out but not really. I guess some people really like to play with fire.
 
Ya, game is out in a matter of weeks now. Lying about resolution would be ridiculous at this late hour.

Not that I believe they are lying, but it would hardly be the first time a dev lied about something that could be found out by the time the game launches. (And definitely not Ea's first rodeo with that sort of thing either.)
 

Squire

Banned
All of you are morons.

None of us has seen the final retail release of the XBOne version yet, because it isn't out yet. And yet you all put your trust in an EA PR mook like EA or PR mooks have never lied before. That's vastly more likely than MS hatching some elaborate conspiracy with another company's PR department to possibly illegally* entrap a single leak. Occam's Razor, biznitches.

Why don't we wait for Digital Foundry's analysis before we pass around the pitchforks?

Abbie Heppe doesn't work for EA.
 

coolasj19

Why are you reading my tag instead of the title of my post?
I did mention on the podcast. I think. I'm an idiot if I didn't.
Nope. You did it on a Podcast. I remember very clearly. One of the first I think I listened to maybe.

Anyway, I don't know what's going on. Maybe, if someone wrote it in DBZ form I'd understand. Too much has happened between NTKernal and Cboat putting his account down on something that can't be true.

I want him to be right. Even if I know he's not.
 

Valkyria

Banned
Lol at the droves claiming for CBOAT's head. For some people he has become really annoying poster pointing out at their favourite company.

I'm gonna wait and see, but I hope that CBOAT redeem himself (herself).
 

meanspartan

Member
Not that I believe they are lying, but it would hardly be the first time a dev lied about something that could be found out by the time the game launches. (And definitely not Ea's first rodeo with that sort of thing either.)


Sure but THIS close to release? If it were still 6 months out sure, they could just say they ended up having to pull back to get framerate up.

But 2 weeks out? Insane.
 

Kinyou

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Or PR. Funny enough some of those that applauded and approved Penello's meltdown about Direct X, 30% performance and technical fellows are also taking Dko5 and Abbie Heppe words as a guaranteed truth like if anything a dev/PR says is always true.

I was expecting they would have learned the lesson after the last time they were played like a fiddle and expect for the facts to come out but not really. I guess some people really like to play with fire.
He was already wrong about the textures. I think I believe Abbie about this one.
 
Lol at the droves claiming for CBOAT's head. For some people he has become really annoying poster pointing out at their favourite company.

I'm gonna wait and see, but I hope that CBOAT redeem himself (herself).

Why? It's better for millions of gamers if he is abjectly wrong.
 

FrankT

Member
People are out of their minds thinking DK is going to stick his head out like that with a ban bet and then the PR gal steps in.

Get a clue.
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
  1. Microsoft found CBOAT
  2. They kept it quiet
  3. Now Microsoft is using his own account to discredit him

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kick51

Banned
Lol at the droves claiming for CBOAT's head. For some people he has become really annoying poster pointing out at their favourite company.

I'm gonna wait and see, but I hope that CBOAT redeem himself (herself).


seriously, such wishy washiness is gross. feeds years of info, gets something wrong and all of a sudden it's permaban talk?
 

GavinGT

Banned
Reading his post history, he seems to post only in Xbone subreddit.

Found this interesting though, it's about titanfall compaign:

Even if the guy is legit, he isn't explicitly talking about campaign multiplayer. The OP asked about a single player campaign.

Hell, we've already seen campaign multiplayer and it almost definitely involved other people.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
People were mentioning this back when he mentioned 16 maps. It was so specific that it'd be easy to feed different numbers to a bunch of different suspects and see what matches.

Map count, resolution, texture quality.

Assuming a 'final' count between 8 and 16, resolution of: 720, 792, 900 or 1080, and texture quality of "matches alpha" or "matches beta":
9 choices times 4 choices times 2 choices.

That's easily 72 different possibilities they could get out there and see who says what.

It could be a combination of a lot of different things and still works as each combination still leads to somewhere. Regardless of how hard said person tries to shift it to someone else. The starting point would be the same.
 

Squire

Banned
seriously, such wishy washiness is gross. feeds years of info, gets something wrong and all of a sudden it's permaban talk?

He leaks info about video games on the internet. He's not a demi-god, Robin Hood, or anyone worth respecting or appreciating. He was never asked to do this or anything else and he is owed nothing in return.

Chill.
 
Sure but THIS close to release? If it were still 6 months out sure, they could just say they ended up having to pull back to get framerate up.

But 2 weeks out? Insane.

We will find out in 2 weeks. (If not sooner) I hope they are right, wouldn't be a good start for their studio's namesake if they lied.
 
To the people earlier in the thread: I don't think there was much ambiguity about what he meant by the textures.

Tintnfall - 16 maaps fo laucnh, bxone alph a textures ARE fin@l assets #1
wha it says in the tile. PC rev wil hva impve textures n thatsit. n0 wrd on blupint/360 sku yet, stil trying. Wil update sa see fit.

duelin leakrs!11!! or wokng together?! ITISAMYSTEY
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=98886689&postcount=1

720 as wel , 792? no.

stick in toMy gun s on alpha texture POSTi mad be4, btway
s
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=102134903&postcount=702

Pretty clear cut to me.
 

Haines

Banned
Croat never impressed since I joined maybe a year ago. Fairly certain he's always been a fake.

I think it's very funny you guys are all caught up in it and dream up these wild stories of ms rooting him out with fake stories.

No, he's just some guy who is messing with y'all.
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
Or PR. Funny enough some of those that applauded and approved Penello's meltdown about Direct X, 30% performance and technical fellows are also taking Dko5 and Abbie Heppe words as a guaranteed truth like if anything a dev/PR says is always true.

The major difference here is that we have already seen the Beta, and it ran well enough with better textures. Also, Penello's statements made no sense in themselves. Here, the idea of a texture downgrade makes little sense.
 

pixlexic

Banned
Lol at the droves claiming for CBOAT's head. For some people he has become really annoying poster pointing out at their favourite company.

I'm gonna wait and see, but I hope that CBOAT redeem himself (herself).

And the opposite is true as we'll.
 

Dambrosi

Banned
Fine then. We'll all see the truthiness when the game comes out, and a proper analysis can be done. Notice that I'm not swaying either way (though it would be funny
and odd
if 720p were true).

However, all the posts about "honeypots" and "canary traps" are just straight up fantasy. Let them go.
 

antitrop

Member
Reading his post history, he seems to post only in Xbone subreddit.

Found this interesting though, it's about titanfall compaign:

... I don't believe him.

A) I don't think there will be SP bot matches, although it's possible.
B) We know for a fact that the game will have Campaign Multiplayer.
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
I like how how you think he'd even be offered the choice. If he works for MS, they find out who he is, and they can prove it, he's out.

Once free of the company, he could do a lot of tongue wagging. It was meant as a joke but you know what they say about 'many a true word said in jest'.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
... I don't believe him.

A) I don't think there will be SP bot matches, although it's possible.
B) We know for a fact that the game will have Campaign Multiplayer.

I am curious to see how the campaign MP stuff turns out.
 

Oppo

Member
He leaks info about video games on the internet. He's not a demi-god, Robin Hood, or anyone worth respecting or appreciating. He was never asked to do this or anything else and he is owed nothing in return.

Chill.

True.

But I would hope that an 8 year mostly-accurate track record would earn him at least an explanatory post before the ban, if he is indeed wrong. Which it sure looks like, at least for the rez question.

(I always read "alpha textures" as transparencies - is this not correct?)
 

RedAssedApe

Banned
seriously, such wishy washiness is gross. feeds years of info, gets something wrong and all of a sudden it's permaban talk?

errr...bish himself said that cboat would likely get permabanned regardless of any partial truths...so its not like we are all pitchforking.

actually nevermind he didnt use the words perma...but he did mention a ban.
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
And I'm 100% sure CBOAT knows that as well, which makes his claim(s) all the more odd.

He should have added some explanation as to why he thinks the textures are going to be downgraded. Without one, the rumors just makes no sense.
 

Zukuu

Banned
He said the alpha textures are the final assets. If that was true then it would make zero sense for the beta to have better textures, yet it did.

anyone considered that that are the SAME textures just with added effects / upscaled? It's probably not like they've remade them. Technically, the statement isn't wrong, if they just made them a higher resolution.
 

GavinGT

Banned
Croat never impressed since I joined maybe a year ago. Fairly certain he's always been a fake.

I think it's very funny you guys are all caught up in it and dream up these wild stories of ms rooting him out with fake stories.

No, he's just some guy who is messing with y'all.

Oh, come on. He leaked the exact Xbox 360 specs before anyone in the world. He's been right about like 85% of what he's said over a period of 10 years. And plenty of his misses can be attributed to internal changes in plans.
 
All of you are morons.

None of us has seen the final retail release of the XBOne version yet, because it isn't out yet. And yet you all put your trust in an EA PR mook like EA or PR mooks have never lied before. That's vastly more likely than MS hatching some elaborate conspiracy with another company's PR department to possibly illegally* entrap a single leak. Occam's Razor, biznitches.

Why don't we wait for Digital Foundry's analysis before we pass around the pitchforks?

Lol not all, just most. These same ppl bought battlefield 4. Cboat has done more for this board than I have and prolly will ever do and that applies to many of u praying for his ban. Cboat job is on the line ever time he gives us the truth. Remember last year when he gave us the details of the new Xbox that many ppl didn't wanna believe. Did anyone who doubted cboat... did they get banned? No.. Right now they're doing a canary trap IF he is wrong. Time wil reveal
 
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