Source...? Don't remember this at all
Thanks! I must admit that it is extremely hard. I can empathize with all this misery and despair. I've been so excited for this game that every piece of news that isn't a video, game info or release date makes me want to kick a puppy. And all this 'coming soon' nonsense is giving some serious blue balls. I hope Sony and Evo realize that.
They were planning multiple ways to expand the content for the PS+ version, probably as micro transactions (though it was never explicitly stated). AFAIK, there were no such hints for the retail/full version. But then this is the best opportunity for people to capitalize on the negativity and pass such random baseless commentary. You know how it works
Then by all means, post about your concern about the length of the delay and the long silence from Sony. That's fine. I'd like to have more clarity on when we'll see Driveclub too. Just don't go taking a quote out of context and then act as if it implicates that the project needed to be completely rebooted, when there is no solid evidence to support that.The only thing though, when it was delayed 5 months ago, they said it would be coming out early 2014. It's now March 10th, and we've heard nothing about any release date. I think that's part of the reason why people are worried as well.
There's no one place to get meanings for phrases so I'll use a few.No it doesn't.
'Going back to the drawing board' does not always mean 'to scrap a project in it's entirerty and rebuild it from scratch'. Going back to the drawing board can also mean going back to improve or change an element from a project because it wasn't working by changing that element without having to scrap the rest of the project.
http://www.knowyourphrase.com/phrase-meanings/Back-To-The-Drawing-Board.htmlStarting over again because a plan failed to come together; going back to square one.
When a plan is unsuccessful, this phrase is sometimes used to describe the failure and
show that changes are needed for success.
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/back+to+the+drawing+boardtime to start from the start; it is time to plan something over again
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/back+to+the+drawing+board.htmlIf you have to go back to the drawing board, you have to go back to the beginning and start something again.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/british/go-back-to-the-drawing-boardto start planning something again because the first plan failed
[citation needed]
What irks me most was all the "announcements" that a release date announcement would be made soon. And then even THAT never happened. The secrecy that this game has delved into makes me think that VR could be a possibility.
Please don't kick a puppy
That's true, there is no solid evidence. However, the game seems to be shrouded in secrecy now, so people are going to speculate. I'm personally in the "could be VR" crowd, but when there's such a long radio silence and then someone says they had to go "back to the drawing board" when it got delayed, it raises a lot of questions. No one really knows to what extent they had to rework anything, so saying we've known this for months isn't exactly true either.Then by all means, post about your concern about the length of the delay and the long silence from Sony. That's fine. I'd like to have more clarity on when we'll see Driveclub too. Just don't go taking a quote out of context and then act as if it implicates that the project needed to be completely rebooted, when there is no solid evidence to support that.
What game has been delay more than one time?
Only game that actually got delayed was Drive Club.
Then by all means, post about your concern about the length of the delay and the long silence from Sony. That's fine. I'd like to have more clarity on when we'll see Driveclub too. Just don't go taking a quote out of context and then act as if it implicates that the project needed to be completely rebooted, when there is no solid evidence to support that.
Is this VR only now? I really would not want to buy Sony's VR device when its support will likely be lacking. Making Drive Club exclusive to VR would piss a lot of people right off
No way. Assuming VR is a real thing, it would have to be optional for this game.Is this VR only now? I really would not want to buy Sony's VR device when its support will likely be lacking. Making Drive Club exclusive to VR would piss a lot of people right off
Is this VR only now? I really would not want to buy Sony's VR device when its support will likely be lacking. Making Drive Club exclusive to VR would piss a lot of people right off
Or you could just read the rest of my post...There's no one place to get meanings for phrases so I'll use a few.
http://www.knowyourphrase.com/phrase-meanings/Back-To-The-Drawing-Board.html
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/back+to+the+drawing+board
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/back+to+the+drawing+board.html
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/british/go-back-to-the-drawing-board
And so on. 'Going back to the drawing board' does not mean the same thing as polishing and improving. It just doesn't.
I didn't say the delay was exclusively for just polishing and improving, nor did Sony. Also, you know you can use phrases figuratively, right? That's even what that third quote of yours says; "When a plan is unsuccessful, this phrase is sometimes used to describe the failure and show that changes are needed for success.". It does not always have to mean literally going back to square one and starting over, it is just a phrase used to describe the failure of a plan to show that changes are needed. The implementation of social features in Driveclub didn't work as Evolution wanted, so changes were needed. That's most likely what Rohde refers to by using the phrase, especially given the context in which he gave it.No it doesn't.
'Going back to the drawing board' does not always mean 'to scrap a project in it's entirerty and rebuild it from scratch'. Going back to the drawing board can also mean going back to improve or change an element from a project because it wasn't working by changing that element without having to scrap the rest of the project. Driveclub was delayed because of problems with the social features, which were supposed to be a huge part of the game. They are reworking this social element because it wasn't working like they wanted on a technical level. They went 'back to the drawing board' for the social features. We've known that for a while now.
From the context in which this quote was placed (a short article on why Driveclub was delayed), there is no reason to believe that it references anything other than what we've already known for months.
I think I can hear some buzzing under your bonnet Sir, you might want to see if you've got a bee in it or something.There's no one place to get meanings for phrases so I'll use a few.
http://www.knowyourphrase.com/phrase-meanings/Back-To-The-Drawing-Board.html
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/back+to+the+drawing+board
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/back+to+the+drawing+board.html
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/british/go-back-to-the-drawing-board
And so on. 'Going back to the drawing board' does not mean the same thing as polishing and improving. It just doesn't.
Yeah, and I'm gonna pin a lot of this on the restructuring. I did not think the restructuring would affect their gaming depts. all that much, and I guess relatively speaking (compared to, say, shutting down ranges of studios) it hasn't.Man, right your development ship Sony. Or announce some new projects that we may actually see sometime this century, shit is getting old. I'm glad they're not releasing a terrible product but they need games to come to completion already, delay after delay.
They said if you have the free PS+ edition you could buy the rest of the game's content for a discounted price or you could buy individual tracks or cars instead. The full game (retail or the digital version that wasn't the PS+ edition) presumably came with all the content. Since the base PS+ edition was never meant to have all the content from the other versions, it was a way to allow players to commit to the game as much or as little as they wanted.Back when it was first unveiled I remember reading some interviews with the development studio talking about how the game would have a heavy focus on DLC or microtranscations for cars, tracks, etc and that's why there would be a free PS+ version.
I could be wrong but I swear I remember reading about that about a year ago. I guess I'll try and dig something up.
This, basically.They were planning multiple ways to expand the content for the PS+ version, probably as micro transactions (though it was never explicitly stated). AFAIK, there were no such hints for the retail/full version. But then this is the best opportunity for people to capitalize on the negativity and pass such random baseless commentary. You know how it works
I think I can hear some buzzing under your bonnet Sir, you might want to see if you've got a bee in it or something.
I think we all know what 'back to the drawing board' means, but it doesn't mean the entire project has gone back to the drawing board.
LOL. I didn't know what to expect under the spoiler tag, and I was pleasantly surprised.#DriveClubbed
This is a joke post, right? RIGHT?Rage!! Wtf!!!
Everything about this games reveal has been a fucking joke. What a mess.
They made awesome car models and graphics but forgot to make any game mechanics. When they implemented it they realised the PS4 couldn't run it. That would be very funny.
There's no one place to get meanings for phrases so I'll use a few.
http://www.knowyourphrase.com/phrase-meanings/Back-To-The-Drawing-Board.html
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/back+to+the+drawing+board
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/back+to+the+drawing+board.html
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/british/go-back-to-the-drawing-board
And so on. 'Going back to the drawing board' does not mean the same thing as polishing and improving. It just doesn't.
How cheap do you actually think VR will be? $80 for a game and a headset is very wishful thinking dudedriveclub included with VR for $80 would be tempting , unlikely though at that price lol
I can dream
hmmmm I guess E3 is when we will know
They made awesome car models and graphics but forgot to make any game mechanics. When they implemented it they realised the PS4 couldn't run it. That would be very funny.
Yeah, Evolution ain't no rookie developer. That's something you do at a rec center in summer school for college credit, not after you've already made a few big retail games for real consoles.They made awesome car models and graphics but forgot to make any game mechanics. When they implemented it they realised the PS4 couldn't run it. That would be very funny.
I don't know why people would rather have a crap game instead.
Maybe you guys are right. I still think it was a poor choice of words and a poorly written article. Probably nothing has changed other than development of this game somehow got fucked and we'll probably never know the real reasons behind it. It's incredibly disappointing to me as I've been looking forward to this game since the reveal of it over a year ago. =(
Exactly. Going back to the drawing board means at the very least a significant issue that required going back to the early design phase on something, and then redeveloping based upon that new design.No, there's not a reason to think it's the simplified, hyperbolic scenario of having all assets deleted, but we have reason to assume the fundamentals of the project required heavy retooling, based on both statements about the initial delay, and the continued delay without updates.
wut? Add a 0 and divide by 2driveclub included with VR for $80 would be tempting , unlikely though at that price lol hmmmm I guess E3 is when we will know
Actually, yes. It's perfect for vr with all the first person 'car looking' and cockpit mode. I actually thought ps4 was going to be all vr from the initial unveiling. Driveclub, the witness, and other games typically third person were being shown in first person. Plus the whole auditorium was a huge wrap around screen.Rebuilt for 60 FPS mind blowing VR, believe.