Sure? They called it plug and play, I don't know why we need to be syncing bluetooth if we're using USB, that's awful consumer experience design.
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Project Morpheus - Sony VR headset prototype - unveiled
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That is, if you mean 2 960x1080 views
No I meant 960x180. I want that tall thin view. The feel of TallScreen.
It does kind of seem insane, VR on PS4, PC and potentially XBO will require three different ~$300 headsets. That is not so good for the health of the medium.
The Incredible Muffin
Member
I like the look of it.
But display a 90 degree angle,,, isnt that going to make you naucious?
But display a 90 degree angle,,, isnt that going to make you naucious?
coughlanio
Member
I'll be very surprised if it doesn't, considering Sony makes PC games.
Panda In Space
Member
Yeah. I wonder how SOE will handle all this. You'd think they be pushing for the ability to support the Sony headset, rather than support Oculus instead.
Sidewinder
Member
SOE? I don't know much about them, but aren't some of their games hitting PS4 anyway?
Haha, let the gifs begin! I'll need to update my Avatar. Where did you get that front view of Morpheus, or did you do it yourself? Wow at those reflections very well done.
Wow! I am deeply impressed by the quality of this! Thank you.
DerZuhälter
Member
Well that was highly underwhelming.
Close to same tech as Occulus, no price tag or date aswell, and no games for it. No standards for it, no nothing.
I feel like we are no inch closer to a viable solution, than before the unveil. There are just "more" solutions.
Close to same tech as Occulus, no price tag or date aswell, and no games for it. No standards for it, no nothing.
I feel like we are no inch closer to a viable solution, than before the unveil. There are just "more" solutions.
Amaze.
Caayn
Member
Amazing.
I think xbo is way to underpowered for vr :-(. Anyway I would buy one for ps4 or steambox
Rizsparky
Member
Hah! This is awesome
They already confirmed Everquest Next will support the Oculus Rift.
Liamario
Banned
Fantastic, though I suspect you spent way too much time on it.
ZehDon
Gold Member
#dead. Great to see Antonio back for Project Morpheus!
edit: I just noticed the subtle light bar reflection on the visor. Fucking outstanding.
I expect a Matrix/Desperado clash by ElTorro in 3... 2... 1...
comadorcrack
Neo Member
Haha Awesome!
As many people here are so quick to point out there's nothing (on the market now) too underpowered for VR, you just have to accept compromises and also highly stylized visuals I guess. Regardless, in 3-5 years the differences between the PS4 and XBO will probably seem increasingly insignificant in regards to this tech.
yea I totally agree but standards will come once the innovation has settled. You need engineers to fight for their ideas. Then when they've exhausted them settle on a standard. iOS and Android wouldn't be where they are if they weren't innovating (copying) so hard
That's not strictly true.
Assuming at some point people are going to get a tiling solution up and running on XBO, yeah, it can easily produce satisfying VR, but until they do the eSRAM is really troublesome for VR, if we accept Valve's presence spec as a rough baseline.
Why? Actually if anything the esram should work better for VR than screen, considering that you are already inherently tiling your rendering!
Yeah. Look how long it took to settle on a hdtv standard.
boredandlazy
Member
Except I don't hope for it to turn out that way. And neither should anyone else.
The Maverick
Member
The day VR is a mass market reality, is the day I resign from this world. And move to a new one. With my waifu by my side, there is nothing I can't do.
PS4 VR, I wait for you. (And please hit $200.)
PS4 VR, I wait for you. (And please hit $200.)
Oculus Devkit 1 has FOV 90 and people are happy. Sure, more would be better.
You mean tile per eye render? If we say it's 960x1080/90 deferred, is the footprint less then 32mb though? Because you'd still need the g-buffer in the eSRAM, no?
Either way tiling will be sorted sooner or later on XBO, and sooner than MS could bring a VR headset to market most likely.
VindicatorZ
Member
Stumbled upon this. Figured it would be cool to post. What could be considered the world's first VR/AR head mounted system. In 1968. Just cool to even see they even had the beginnings of the idea.
SkeptiMism
Member
Do you think all those 10 million PS4 owners would buy this thing? I'd say even a million of them (1 in 10 that is) is quite generous at start at least because of the entry of cost (and it probably won't cost anywhere near 100 bucks, but maybe 200-300 - if they can get it lower that's awesome though).
The amount of the dev kits sold by OR is closing to about 60k now. But again, those are dev kits, for developers mostly. Not advertized for the consumers nor fit for consumers because of multiple problems.
OR at least isn't even hoping to sell all that many units at first. They're targeting the enthusiasts first who will then carry the word onwards. This is how every "new" innovation is brought to the market. I can see Project Morpheus going more for the mass consumer directly maybe (sort of like Move and Kinect did), but it will have its challenges too and naturally the enthusiasts will be the first ones to get it too.
But anyway, yes, more consumers getting VR is a good thing. Hopefully it won't be too different to get VR working well between the different platforms.
Exactly!
I've made so many Matrix jokes in the PlayStation VR speculation threads, so it's nice to see it's called Project Morpheus (after the Ancient Greek God I'm sure, but still!).
Yeah, was hoping this would work for both PC/PS4, then this would be a no brainer, depending on OR's specs too, but PC will just get so much VR goodness, and at this point who knows how VR support will be on PS4, will likely never have the...mini gameish stuff I see on PC, but who knows.
Think this will just be a case of wait and see for me. Best case scenario I have a VR device that works on PC/PS4, but I fear my patience will be very thin by then, ha ha it's very thin now! Probably unlikely OR will work on PS4.
Greg hard decision, I'd prefer all PC can offer VR wise, but fear about missing out on PS4 VR experiences
HORRORSHØW
Member
that's awesome. nice find.
Stumbled upon this. Figured it would be cool to post. What could be considered the world's first VR/AR head mounted system. In 1968. Just cool to even see they even had the beginnings of the idea.
Antonio Banderas jumping around with VR headset doing DualShock 4 bulletshots... best ad ever.
justsomeguy
Member
I can't recommend this book highly enough for you or anyone else who's a bit excited by this or who ever got sucked into an MMO...
Hey there, so... VR, look pretty sweet for sure... Must be a lot of happy people at the office today... But when would you say we might be able to purchase this unit for ourselves?
Finally got to a keyboard. I'm pretty happy with where they seem to be going with it.
As I said in another post last night I was slightly surprised at how 'pure' their approach seems to be. Like Oculus/Valve, they're not making any bones about the framerate and latency requirements, and how intensive that might be. Or about the need to achieve 'presence'. They seem totally fine about this needing a different approach to rendering vs single-screen 2D depending on your quality target. I think it's reassuring that, if there are 2 or 3 main players right now, they're all roughly on the same page about all this stuff.
I'm surprised how decent the prototype looks. The design is interesting. It looks like it will sort of hold the weight of the unit off your face, distribute it back over the head. I just noticed the light(s) on the back strap of the unit, which is good (360 tracking).
I can believe this won't be too expensive. I could see a headset/camera/move bundle for $300. However this is the dev kit spec. Depending on how the consumer model varies maybe there's scope for that to shift.
Timing on this seems vague right now. I'm thinking/hoping that if they get good feedback from this show and the demos, and from developers, that this will help inform a more solid schedule. Hopefully they'll get these things out more broadly to developers ASAP.
EvE was a surprise. I wouldn't envy being a CCP guy tomorrow...probably going to be peppered with questions about how Valkyrie compares on Morpheus vs OR's latest.
Very impatient to read/see more about the demos tomorrow.
As I said in another post last night I was slightly surprised at how 'pure' their approach seems to be. Like Oculus/Valve, they're not making any bones about the framerate and latency requirements, and how intensive that might be. Or about the need to achieve 'presence'. They seem totally fine about this needing a different approach to rendering vs single-screen 2D depending on your quality target. I think it's reassuring that, if there are 2 or 3 main players right now, they're all roughly on the same page about all this stuff.
I'm surprised how decent the prototype looks. The design is interesting. It looks like it will sort of hold the weight of the unit off your face, distribute it back over the head. I just noticed the light(s) on the back strap of the unit, which is good (360 tracking).
I can believe this won't be too expensive. I could see a headset/camera/move bundle for $300. However this is the dev kit spec. Depending on how the consumer model varies maybe there's scope for that to shift.
Timing on this seems vague right now. I'm thinking/hoping that if they get good feedback from this show and the demos, and from developers, that this will help inform a more solid schedule. Hopefully they'll get these things out more broadly to developers ASAP.
EvE was a surprise. I wouldn't envy being a CCP guy tomorrow...probably going to be peppered with questions about how Valkyrie compares on Morpheus vs OR's latest.
Very impatient to read/see more about the demos tomorrow.
Press release: http://scei.co.jp/corporate/release/140319_e.html
"Presence"... is the word for 2014, and beyond.
"Presence"... is the word for 2014, and beyond.
justsomeguy
Member
"Those 80s references" were my childhood *sob*
Do they even have it though? I thought everyone was stuck on DK1, do some devs get prototypes to use in-house?
EVE felt like an obvious one, I was surprised we heard yesterday, but they'd already specifically mentioned their exclusivity didn't extend to consoles, so it was coming.
Sidewinder
Member
This and price will be the most asked question to Sony dudes until it releases, have fun answering
Well, after all it was Morpheus who showed Neo the "real" world, so I think this name works that way too.
I wonder if it was a buy out or collaboration offer...
I find it curious that they place '3D Audio' alongside 'Social Screen' in the prototype function description.
They mentioned in the presentation that the 'processor unit' will allow you to split out a cable to a TV and present (I presume) and unwarped or 'regular' view of what's happening in the HMD.
Does this indicate that this processor box will also handle some of the audio processing?
They mentioned in the presentation that the 'processor unit' will allow you to split out a cable to a TV and present (I presume) and unwarped or 'regular' view of what's happening in the HMD.
Does this indicate that this processor box will also handle some of the audio processing?
what if I told you.... life is a simulation....