jeremy1456
Junior Member
Am I mistaken or is MGSV not performing as well as previous MGS games?
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Media Create Sales: Week 12, 2014 (Mar 17 - Mar 23)
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It's essentially a paid demo, 100k on both platform is amazing actually.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
So new MH 3DS LL releasing today. http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/hardware/pack/rajang_gold/index.html
Well this and the 3 Otaku-bait editions should raise 3DS sales.
Sony, more special editions please!
Well this and the 3 Otaku-bait editions should raise 3DS sales.
Sony, more special editions please!
MarvelousAQL announced that Valhalla Knights 3 + Valhalla Knights 3 Gold have surpassed 100,000 units: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201403/27050591.html
Where's that "Oh My Goldo" gifs when you need them?
shinra-bansho
Member
It's somewhat amusing that some people think the Vita doing maybe 1.5? 2M? in Japan this year somehow changes that it's ultimately a dead system. And are presumably trying to extrapolate that to the other moribund system.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Yup, it's all about that momentum after Kart. From next week until Kart, the Wii U is going to have a relatively decent lineup until Kart comes out, thanks to the games listed above and the good GBA VC for once. I admit the only 3 things that mightmake an impact on sales (even temporary changes) would be the new bundle (maybe?), Just Dance Wii U (maybe the 3D World/Taiko audience might bite on this?), and Mario Kart 8 (this being the main one). It'd be interesting to see whether software sales are even half decent for any of those titles.
I left out things like "Child of Light" off the list, although that's releasing for Wii U on 5/1 in Japan since it's digital only.
theprodigy
Member
2 pages too late, and without snark
try harder shinra-bansho
(also you forgot to add the Vita semi-turnaround is just one region)
I can see GZ reaching 1.5
Mario Party won't be a problem, it'll sell through it's initial stock and more most likely.
Unfortunately, I don't think Media Create tracks smartphone sales.
I will never understand the sales-age definition of 'dead'. The only platform showing any growth, with a steady stream of retail releases, and it's dead. Makes no sense, even if you actually mean 'irrelevant'.
Regardless, the Vita is a dead system in the same way that Japan is a dead market. You just adjust your expectations and hope for better in the future.
well not to put words into his mouth, but going from the use of 'ultimately,' i assume he's speaking of the broader market. of course by now the generation is half-over and we're in or entering a decline period anyway. and yeah, by the same metric, pretty much nothing matters because everything is always eventually over.
oh my god.
Fuckin' deep, man.
Sure, if we're talking about the west, the platform is probably doing worse than ever. I still find 'dead' rather hyperbolic and feel that 'irrelevant' is better suited. Still, everyone understands the parlance in these threads, so there's no real harm done.
1st Course
Member
Dengeki out
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/829/829037/
Donkey Kong 4,688/78,140
Zelda out of Top 50 (<2,117)
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/829/829037/
Donkey Kong 4,688/78,140
Zelda out of Top 50 (<2,117)
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Probably not as much as they're getting back in licensing fees on the sale of psp games!
No idea if it's a good sign or not... Looks like Atlus is really conservative with their shipments, they seem to want to avoid overshipping at all costs (that's pretty understandable, they're not really a company putting million-sellers every 6 months or so).
Anyway, hope Persona Q performs well.
Hellraider
Member
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Donkey Kong went from a million seller to struggling to sell 100k. Damn.
GreenMakoEyes
Member
Nintendo's sales target was a million for this titel in Japan?
Hellraider
Member
If you wanna go by that logic, they sure are hell weren't 100k, though.
Majmun
Member
That's not the first Nintendo franchise that is struggling this gen.
I mean, how much did Wii Fit and Wii Play sell this gen compare to the last one?
Or Nintendogs and Brain Training?
michaelius
Banned
Wii U effect
Which is why I belive people expecting agresive bundling of Mario Kart and/or Smash will be dissapointed - those are only two games where Nintendo can get back some money back from Wii U trainwreck - they will try to bleed them dry for as long as possible before bundling it.
Majmun
Member
More like Wii-effect. Donkey Kong became huge because Wii was huge. And Wii became huge because of the motion controls and not the traditional Nintendo games.
Didn't all Nintendo franchises sell more on the Wii because of its success?
Wii U is just back to normal Nintendo, I think. Following Gamceube's steps.
PotionBleue
Member
Wii Play on Wii U? It exists? I know Wii Party U on Wii U and Wii Play Motion on Wii but not Wii Play U.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Yeah. Wii greatly inflated the selling power of Nintendo's franchises.
I think software is doing worse on WiiU than Gamecube. Zelda will sell worse, DK has sold worse, Pikmin has sold worse and 3D mario has sold worse. Really the only franchise I expect a better performance is MK only because the series became insanely popular after Wii and I'm sure that increased brand awareness.
Isn't Pikmin 3 perfomance comparably good or at least "fine" to Pikmin 1 and 2?
No idea, but I do remember some previous Atlus game got some (sometime severe) shortages after launch (Dragon Crown was one of them).
You'd think that retailers wouldn't be that wary, since it's happened several times in the past. And it's not like Atlus would need to shipment loads of additional copies to avoid shortages (and besides, those usually don't last very long).
It's really no big deal, though, I'm just slightly puzzled.
pieatorium
Member
first week or 2 was, its less than half their ltds last we saw it in the chart]s. It was evident early on it would not have close to the legs of the previous games
Yeah I remember Dragon's Crown have severe shortage during its first and second weeks, which I presume make many people resort to digital copy since Dragon's Crown also charted top 10 PSN sales that month. Undershipping so many games, I don't think conservative being the right word for them.
Well, Wii U abyssmal user base indeed hurts it leg. At least Pikmin 3 still have its own main audience following it into a new platform.
metalslimer
Member
Yeah because Sony isn't releasing another handheld.
I suspect you're right, and it's a massive whack in the bollocks. Just as mobile technology soars, and OLED displays with twin sticks become feasible. Just as digital distribution begins to mature as a service. Just as indies fill in the role of traditional, shorter 'handheld' games but the power is there to recreate console-style games too.
We'll just be left with techno-dodgers Nintendo and their 'ten years behind the curve' hardware and services. Whoopie-fucking-do.
I guess I should be grateful that I enjoy smartphone / tablet gaming.
To be honest I woulnd't be surprised if they didn't considering Vita's fate. Any handheld they release is going to be DOA in the West.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Sony would be wise to finally make the (actually named as such) Playstation Phone after the brand resurgence with PS4, Morpheus and so on. Give it craploads of haptics on one end, little analogue nub/slider on the other, maybe some triggers, and attack that way.
Way the japanese gaming industry is going, that'd be the biggest way forward of all.
Way the japanese gaming industry is going, that'd be the biggest way forward of all.
It means both. Vita situation has improved since last year. 3DS situation is worse now that in 2013. "Improved" doesn't mean amazing though.
SMT IV had some shortage problems iirc. And somebody has pointed Dragon's Crown had them too. They're a small company (well, now they're part of SEGA) so they probably want to play it safe.
The vita may be dead on the large scope, but in Japan its receiving lots of games and selling, if not great, pretty well for what it is. Its not a PSP, but its hardly dead in Japan.
Also, i disagree that it was a Wii effect that made the franchises sell better. More like a userbase effect. Mario 3d land is the best selling 3d mario by a huge margin for example. The userbase on the u bugs less games and is tiny, so its a very rough situation.
Still, i expected DK to do much better because wiiu was still coming from the holidays. After seeing that ad where the kid had only mario u, 3d world and party u (because it came with the system). I guess the few people with the system wants to play mario and mario only.
Also, i disagree that it was a Wii effect that made the franchises sell better. More like a userbase effect. Mario 3d land is the best selling 3d mario by a huge margin for example. The userbase on the u bugs less games and is tiny, so its a very rough situation.
Still, i expected DK to do much better because wiiu was still coming from the holidays. After seeing that ad where the kid had only mario u, 3d world and party u (because it came with the system). I guess the few people with the system wants to play mario and mario only.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
30k a week for non holiday weeks is not mediocre. That (with the holiday bumps) would put yearly sales at 1.5-1.8 million. I mean compared to past generations that is mediocre, but looking at the current Japanese gaming industry I would call that decent.
pieatorium
Member
its not that huge compared to mario 64. ~300k difference
is it bad that I can't tell whether you're talking about the PSVita or PS4?