Not saying I would buy such a thing...
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Amazon FireTV Announced and Released [$99 box, $40 controller, game capable STB]
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Emulation performance isn't great on the shield.
Doug Heffernan
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I get that this device is meant to compete with Roku and Apple TV and that gaming is just an extra bonus to sway that particular audience,
but still... why bother if you're Amazon?
I don't think this will make as much of a dent in the market as they hope it will.
but still... why bother if you're Amazon?
I don't think this will make as much of a dent in the market as they hope it will.
good question. there is no info available on other remotes. other game controller support is confirmed and set to increase so it is a possibility.
entremet
Member
And neither is at 99 bucks new.
Agreed. The console UI does look good, very clean and straight-forward.
Interesting that they chose to stick with the 'Fire' naming.
but you think it would be more suited to having the open Play store. My question is why, for this scenario is that better?
More up to date info:
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?be...r)&os1=Android&api1=gl&D2=Apple+iPad+3&cols=2
Plus I believe that the iPad 3 has higher clocks for its GPU.
brain_stew
Member
That looks like a fantastic Android set top box. Is sideloading supported? It would be a shame for such a good piece of hardware to not have access to the Play Store, Plex and XBMC.
Hopefully a cyanagenmod port isn't too far away.
Hopefully a cyanagenmod port isn't too far away.
SPACECADET
Member
there just isn't enough mobile games in the world to make me want to have a dedicated console for them.
I've got one, and other than sound lag and a few specific PSP games it works pretty damn well. Better graphics than some PSP games originally had. HDMI out onto a 1080p display, every system up to PS1/DS/PSP runs well.
Huh? Vita has PowerVR SGX 543MP4+
I was always under the impression that the 320 was more powerful than the 543mp4+. Guess not.
KnockOneOff
Banned
I will buy this on the 12th of never 
Sneak peek on upcoming games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlVLhqj1weY
Some interesting looking ones in there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlVLhqj1weY
Some interesting looking ones in there
Mass Effect
Member
Looks like a poor man's Sanctum.
Purely for XBMC and emulators, because I don't think there is any future for this device as a gaming platform.
brightsons
Member
Amazon Game Studios - Sneak Peek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlVLhqj1weY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlVLhqj1weY
outunderthestars
Banned
Amazon needs a way to control the delivery of their content into the living room. This gives them an end to end content solution, while preventing Apple and Google from slowly forcing them out.
Also, people continue to underestimate how awesome Free Time unlimited is for parents:
"FreeTime Unlimited is an all-you-can-eat content subscription designed for kids ages 3 to 8 that brings together movies, TV shows, apps, and games that kids and parents love. Subscribers enjoy unlimited access to content from Nickelodeon, Sesame Street, PBS Kids, and more from just $2.99 per month."
I have one, and games like GoW (both), Wipeout (both), Resistance (didn't even boot) and GT are nearly unplayable.
It is, by a bit:
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?be...r)&os1=Android&api1=gl&D2=Apple+iPad+3&cols=2
Coming Soon according to Amazon.
It's not a dedicated mobile gaming advice. It's a STB that has games support, among other things. Try to keep up.
KojiKnight
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Do note that there were 2 revisions of the Adreno 320, on top of that it can have different clock rates. A non-mobile version may be able to swing higher clock rates. (nothing huge, but like 15-20%)
If you're talking about psp emulation on the shield, then it's pretty good. Aside from some general emulator incompatibilites, nearly every I tried ran at full speed (and then some, when you disable the frame limiter). The shield's emulator performance is about the best you're gonna get on an android device right now.
With the wipeout games in particular, you'll have to change the rendering mode from buffered to unbuffered. Gran turismo runs slow, even emulated on PC. Haven't tried GoW.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
The more I think on it the more that chart annoys the shit out of me (not only because it's factually wrong in some cases) but because it straight up obviously ignores the fact of all the shit an Apple TV or Chromecast does with your current smartphone or tablet.
Can the box run chrome or safari? Can you mirror your iPad? Does it allow you to play my Google Music? What about share my pics and videos from iCloud? What about pics I took my and Android Phone?
Can the box run chrome or safari? Can you mirror your iPad? Does it allow you to play my Google Music? What about share my pics and videos from iCloud? What about pics I took my and Android Phone?
well it seems more clearly targeting just the living room in general, the machine is primarily geared at TV/Film/music. when you consider performance of the machine, the price, the games content and partners, it seems perfectly suited to gaming for those who are not concerned with the more high end gaming focus. it has as much of a future as a gaming platform as mobile has for the past several years. the audience for "core" gaming versus this and mobile are very different
I'll be waiting then. Everything else looks good for the price and I need something to replace my 360 for streaming on my non-smart tv since I stopped paying for gold.
My attention is gotten.
cyberheater
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I agree. Although not mind blowing in terms of visuals. At least the games will support a proper controller.
outunderthestars
Banned
Pics and videos stored on Amazon Cloud can be shared, it allows you to play music stored on your Amzon Cloud music player etc. You can mirrors things from a Kindle HDX tablet.
So basically yes, it can do most of those things, as long as you are using Amazon services. Just like an Apple TV is most useful to people who use Itunes and Apple products/services, and a Chromecast is most useful to people for have Android hardware and services.
michaelius
Banned
YMMV, I played MGA, Lumines, Megaman X+PU, VC3 and DBZ:SB2 all without issues. Some looked better than PSP. Only issues were with T6 (Framerate) and Miku (hard to play with audio lag).
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Im sorry but I honestly believe the users that bought the Xbox one for its media capabilites are a tiny minority.
The Majority bought the X1 because its the next Xbox. Games first and foremost. Media functions and Kinect are cool but they are just icing on the cake. Would you have forgone Kinect and Hdmi for more powerful hardware? Of course.
Which means media is not so much a selling point but rather a bragging point ONCE you already have the console. People who are looking primarly for casual and media experiences, with gaming on the side have much better options than both the X1 and PS4.
It makes no sense to have the cost of your console raised to cater to that market. Even gamers with non gaming families are better served with a kinectless X1 and FireTv combo than with the current X1 package. Lets not services like Onlive/Playstation now are on the horzion, and im sure that steam OS will eventually do something similar.
People say that a kinectless X1 is a weaker PS4, but they are still comparable in value, especially when we compare on a software level. A dramatically more expensive Roku/AppleTv/FireTv with Software that isnt mostly for the causal audience is not and that is what the X1 now is.
Not to mention for a year and 4 months of live gold alone, you can have one of these devices. They pay for themselves.
And by hardware iteration, im talking about hardware innovation that allows media features to shine better than the fixed point of consoles can. Faster WiFi, Bluetooth, Wireless Hdmi, More ram greater CPU power are things that we legitimately can expect in future iterations of the FireTv and such devices. These things are updated yearly. Things by the very nature of being a console, the X1 cannot keep up anywere near as fast or nimble. We only had 3 model revisions of the 360, one arguably was at the tail end of its mainstream commerical life.
No they will never have the processing power nor the developer support to beat the consoles for hardcore gaming but that is besides the point. We are at the stage were mobile style games are already enough for a huge audience in terms of visuals and depth and for a consumer that sees gaming as a side dish in the same way we see media features as a side dish, there us really only one sensible choice.
Thats why im saying that Microsoft needs to double down on games because thats where the X1 can excell. For those experiences you dont need kinect or a interface built around metro. You don't need a HDMI either. You need to invest in first party studios, indies and securing as much exclusive software as possible. The dream of the Xbox one "winning the living room" is dead. Its time to concentrate on winning the hearts of gamers instead.
1. I'd rather trust anandtech than some gfxbench.com anonymous website.
2. Not all Adreno 320's are the same. Some have more memory bandwidth it seems.
It supports the Plex app, so you can stream those mkv files from your PC.
Relaxed Muscle
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Depending of what comes pre-installed, you might not even have 6GB of storage....
I made a separate thread for the trailers here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=795140
CosmicQueso
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plz stahp
phantomspiker
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Looks interesting.