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Mario Golf: World Tour DLC [3 packs, 2 x 18 holes ea., New Chars, Day 1, Season Pass]

Chopper

Member
They should not have used the term "Season Pass".

As far as I can tell, it is just a discounted opportunity to buy all the DLC packs at once? Not unlike the NSMB 2 DLC, or the newer Streetpass games.

I don't see any problem here.
 

Shaanyboi

Banned
They should not have used the term "Season Pass".

As far as I can tell, it is just a discounted opportunity to buy all the DLC packs at once? Not unlike the NSMB 2 DLC, or the newer Streetpass games.

I don't see any problem here.

...isn't that usually how Season Passes work? Pre-buy the DLC and in the end it'll be cheaper than if you bought it piece-meal?
 
So i somehow get the concept of a season pass on console shootbangs, but this one? So you save 3 dollars if you buy them all together? But why only for a season? Do i get them forever if i buy them seperaty? It doesnt make sense.
 

Son Of D

Member
...isn't that usually how Season Passes work? Pre-buy the DLC and in the end it'll be cheaper than if you bought it piece-meal?

They are. This is just a rare case of all the DLC being announced right away as opposed to the Season Pass just saying a vague "includes character and story DLC". In fact the only other game I can think of that revealed all the Season Pass contents right away was WWE2K14.

So i somehow get the concept of a season pass on console shootbangs, but this one? So you save 3 dollars if you buy them all together? But why only for a season? Do i get them forever if i buy them seperaty? It doesnt make sense.

It's just a name. You get these forever as well if you buy the bundle. In fact it should just be called a DLC bundle since that's what it is.
 

Kinsei

Banned
So i somehow get the concept of a season pass on console shootbangs, but this one? So you save 3 dollars if you buy them all together? But why only for a season? Do i get them forever if i buy them seperaty? It doesnt make sense.

You get them forever even if you buy the season pass. If you plan on getting them all, the discount and getting Gold Mario early is your incentive to get the season pass.
 

Shaanyboi

Banned
So i somehow get the concept of a season pass on console shootbangs, but this one? So you save 3 dollars if you buy them all together? But why only for a season? Do i get them forever if i buy them seperaty? It doesnt make sense.

...uhh I'm not sure where your confusion is

Buy the DLC as a season pass, you'll get all three packs, but for $3 cheaper than if you bought them all separately. Most Season Passes operate like this. I don't know if they'll get rid of the bundle option once all three are out, but usually they do this to incentivize the purchase early on.
 

StayDead

Member
Now, there's something why I would actually want Iwata to leave. Day 1 DLC is bullshit, couldn't care less about the season pass though.

From everything I understand the games been finished for quite a while and was only delayed to fit the release schedule timing it's hitting so day 1 DLC is understandable if they wanted to support the game (which I'm happy about)
 
So i somehow get the concept of a season pass on console shootbangs, but this one? So you save 3 dollars if you buy them all together? But why only for a season? Do i get them forever if i buy them seperaty? It doesnt make sense.

Season passes are permanent, bundled purchases. There is no game, to my knowledge, where it's a limited-time rental. It's just a name for a bundled product. The name came from tv shows being sold online, where "season pass" meant "pay now and get each episode as soon as it's posted for the whole season." Those were also purchases, not rentals. For games it just became "get all of the current series of dlc for a lump sum at release." I think some games might have done multiple passes over many many months.
 
Thx for the replies. So the names is just nonsense. Buy a ticket for a season and play forever. Yeah, just call it a bundle then. Without this confusing name we wouldn´t even have the fake outrage in this thread. They are doing discounted bundles for some time now, this is in no way new. Just the stupid name is.

Edit:
Season passes are permanent, bundled purchases. There is no game, to my knowledge, where it's a limited-time rental. It's just a name for a bundled product. The name came from tv shows being sold online, where "season pass" meant "pay now and get each episode as soon as it's posted for the whole season." Those were also purchases, not rentals. For games it just became "get all of the current series of dlc for a lump sum at release." I think some games might have done multiple passes over many many months.

Thanks for the elaboration. Still misleading for non native speakers.

Edit 2: I get it now, it´s just a free credit to the publishers since you paying them a lot now instead of buying seperate dlc´s down the road. Same free credit model as game preorders.
 

Pikma

Banned
From everything I understand the games been finished for quite a while and was only delayed to fit the release schedule timing it's hitting so day 1 DLC is understandable if they wanted to support the game (which I'm happy about)
Oh I see. As long as it's not pay-to-unlock on-cartdridge content I guess
 
...I can't seriously be the only one who doesn't care at all about the Season Pass, yet is freaking out over Gold Mario.

Like, seriously? Fuck that shit.
 

SmokyDave

Member
Thx for the replies. So the names is just nonsense. Buy a ticket for a season and play forever. Yeah, just call it a bundle then. Without this confusing name we wouldn´t even have the fake outrage in this thread. They are doing discounted bundles for some time now, this is in no way new. Just the stupid name is.
Dude, every season pass is just a bundle of upcoming DLC with a discount applied. If this was called 'The Happy Rainbow Love Pack', people would still know it was a season pass.

Please note, I'm not saying that this season pass / bundle / happy rainbow love pack is a bad thing.

Edit: oh I see, you're totally unfamiliar with the term 'season pass'. Where have you been for the last 6 years?!
 
...I can't seriously be the only one who doesn't care at all about the Season Pass, yet is freaking out over Gold Mario.

Like, seriously? Fuck that shit.
Yeah I don't really care for the character either. I'm never going to use him or Toadette. I'm mainly in it for the courses.
 
Now, there's something why I would actually want Iwata to leave. Will it really have day one dlc?

Yes I'm sure he personally made the decision to do this and it wouldn't have happened if he wasn't there.

Isn't he the one generally maligned for keeping them in the past and not bringing them into the internet age?
 

RiggyRob

Member
Yes I'm sure he personally made the decision to do this and it wouldn't have happened if he wasn't there.

Isn't he the one generally maligned for keeping them in the past and not bringing them into the internet age?

Pretty much:

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Almost the same content as the game (courses) for $15. Good deal IMO.

Will get the game and not sure about the DLC, I don´t have the time to get most out of games nowadays.
 
We got Metal Mario in Mario Kart, why not Gold Mario in Mario Golf?

See, I can readily admit I can't really argue with that, and yet my own bias (my undying love for SM64/indifference to NSMB2) puts what are essentially costume swaps (no, really, that's just the MK7 model for Metal Mario except it's now gold) on two very separate tiers of importance.

Given the tsunami of hate Metal Mario got after his MK7, I guess I'm just surprised people are shrugging this off? Just goes to show where my priorities lie lmfao
 

prateeko

Member
I'm not against DLC but I likely won't actually get to this for a while and wanna avoid the gray zone where I buy it later, get the DLC and a couple months later a GotY comes out. Any precedence with Nintendo for having GotYs?
 

RiggyRob

Member
See, I can readily admit I can't really argue with that, and yet my own bias (my undying love for SM64/indifference to NSMB2) puts what are essentially costume swaps (no, really, that's just the MK7 model for Metal Mario except it's now gold) on two very separate tiers of importance.

Given the tsunami of hate Metal Mario got after his MK7, I guess I'm just surprised people are shrugging this off? Just goes to show where my priorities lie lmfao

I guess they're shrugging it off because of the Metal Mario precedent, but I agree - they shouldn't be putting power-up versions of Mario as extra characters when they could just add different actual characters.

I'm not against DLC but I likely won't actually get to this for a while and wanna avoid the gray zone where I buy it later, get the DLC and a couple months later a GotY comes out. Any precedence with Nintendo for having GotYs?

Not a single Nintendo developed game has a 'GOTY' version, considering Nintendo are relatively new to DLC anyway. The Season Pass is literally just a discount on the 3 DLC packs, meaning if you want to get all 3 you can save a bit of money.
 

Eusis

Member
DLC is an absolutely fine concept when priced right and conservative Nintendo exclusive gamers will come to understand and appreciate this if Nintendo doesn't screw over their customers. $15 for 108 holes across six "courses" alongside new characters sounds fine to me. Less fine if (when) the price is hiked locally on my end of the world. But affordable nonetheless, with what sounds like a lot of content.

As Valve has argued many games are better suited to "services" instead of isolated products. Games like Mario Golf perfectly fit this, evolving in available content for the end user instead of locked to content with a single release, the only alternative to release entirely new bulk versions of the games. Content evolution from a single product instead of endless sequels. The balance that must be struck is content in the initial release with affordability and perceived value of upgrades/expansion/DLC. But it can and, under the right leadership, should be done.

For example, much like Mario Golf give me a Mario Kart that has me playing new tracks with new characters, with my friends locally and online, 12+ months after release. Keep me coming back. Keep evolving the product.
Yeah, I can't refute this. It's only ANNOYING when there are people who insist on this as if it were a universal truth and seemingly have a blind spot to games that are better as complete, solitary works, and only really BAD when the value isn't good for what you get, and I have blamed Microsoft in the past for setting that tone with implied policies of theirs (see: L4D DLC pricing, Sleeping Dogs DLC being $5 then suddenly jumping to $7 the next day when it hits XBL.) Nevermind that there's admittedly grey areas anyway: L.A. Noire kept some cases off because they couldn't be fit onto all the discs (though that's fuel for 360 vs PS3 in and of itself) and while getting those for free probably would've been ideal the season pass wasn't THAT expensive for what you got and again Microsoft's policies likely came into play, nevermind it being an expensive as hell game, and while the true ending for Asura's Wrath was held as DLC that did sound like another case of not fitting on the disc, may've needed continued work, and was entertaining enough to be forgiven by a lot of people.

I can't deny there's some pause at the fact even NINTENDO'S on this, but the value seems good and it's not as if Nintendo regularly belts out these games anyway, so if we're stuck with just one on 3DS may as well be able to get more out of it.
I'm not against DLC but I likely won't actually get to this for a while and wanna avoid the gray zone where I buy it later, get the DLC and a couple months later a GotY comes out. Any precedence with Nintendo for having GotYs?
Do you count ports years if not decades later to other systems? Maybe collections that include said ports? Otherwise no, not really from what I've seen.
 

Zing

Banned
Mario Golf DLC - No problem.

Season Pass offer - No problem.

Day one DLC - Go fuck yourselves Nintendo.
Isn't this the ideal situation for those who do not wish to spend extra money? Instead of the game being $45, or just never getting the extra content, those who wish to pay for content can do so.

Isn't the ideal a $5 core game with a single course and a-la-carte DLC?
 

ffdgh

Member
I'm not against DLC but I likely won't actually get to this for a while and wanna avoid the gray zone where I buy it later, get the DLC and a couple months later a GotY comes out. Any precedence with Nintendo for having GotYs?

They've never had a GOTY rerelease.
 

Berordn

Member
I'm not against DLC but I likely won't actually get to this for a while and wanna avoid the gray zone where I buy it later, get the DLC and a couple months later a GotY comes out. Any precedence with Nintendo for having GotYs?

DLC itself is a relatively new thing to them, and there haven't been any of those so far, so no.
 

Shaanyboi

Banned
I'm not against DLC but I likely won't actually get to this for a while and wanna avoid the gray zone where I buy it later, get the DLC and a couple months later a GotY comes out. Any precedence with Nintendo for having GotYs?

Nintendo games have only recently ever gotten DLC. There's never been a need for GotY editions before, and its something they've never done.
 

Hip Hop

Member
Glad to see Nintendo get with the times. I have zero problems with this. Hope it reaches to games like Mario Kart and Smash Bros. It's heavily needed.
 
I totally wasn't interested in this game until this moment.

As a side-note, this will become yet another game I buy on the eShop, because if I buy it in physical form I'm just never going to play it. Having it loaded on my SD card and ready to go at any time is the way to do it, I think.
 
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