crazygambit
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The OP clearly says 5 tracks, 11 layouts. It's like we forgot how to read all of a sudden.
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PS+ version of Driveclub will have 5 tracks (1 country) and 10 cars.
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The OP clearly says 5 tracks, 11 layouts. It's like we forgot how to read all of a sudden.
bigboss370
Member
am i missing something?
a demo for a racing game is one, maybe two vehicles, one track, on one mode.
This is 10 cars, 5 tracks (with 11 variations Rushy has said?), and all modes are open.
Seems hefty enough to me for a PS+ edition
a demo for a racing game is one, maybe two vehicles, one track, on one mode.
This is 10 cars, 5 tracks (with 11 variations Rushy has said?), and all modes are open.
Seems hefty enough to me for a PS+ edition
To the people getting mad or feeling misled based on the prior statement:
You understand this can be interpreted as meaning that a few categories of assets are missing, not that a few of the assets from each category are missing. I think people jumped the gun a bit on this quote. The "such as" part is very important to the overall meaning of that response.
Why would anyone pay $60 for a free game that is only missing like three cars and three tracks from the complete version. People be irrational.
You understand this can be interpreted as meaning that a few categories of assets are missing, not that a few of the assets from each category are missing. I think people jumped the gun a bit on this quote. The "such as" part is very important to the overall meaning of that response.
Why would anyone pay $60 for a free game that is only missing like three cars and three tracks from the complete version. People be irrational.
Oh, back when I thought I was going to be able to hold off on next-gen day one, cute. I was so young back then.
And then more recently than that there was Quake 3 Arena and Unreal Tournament (and UT2k3/4), offering a rather sizable amount of content from all modes in the game, with full online play, and dedicated servers. For free (as in really, actually free). I don't think people are entitled to more content from DriveClub, but I still do see it as a demo, and one that was initially oversold as being more than it is.
How does that sound bad? Its a brand new retail game. Did people expect the entire thing? This sounds like a kick ass freebie that let's me decide if I want the full thing. By the time I do want more than what's in the freebie, I'll be able to find he game for 40 bucks for sure.
Saberus
Member
Just the xbone owners ......
These DC threads are giving me a headache, reading them is like watching someone trying to suck all the excitement out of the game.
So many pull it out of my ass posts, very embarrassing.
What kind of nonsense is this? MS giving out Forza 5 after almost one year is going to look better than Sony giving out DriveClub day and date along with all the other games they have been giving out...what?
Going back one or two decades and switching to a completely different genre of game just to find two examples doesn't seem like the most convincing argument.
What was Horizon's demo like? Actual numbers from a clearly relevant comparison might do this discussion some good, since numbers are the entire basis for the discussion in the first place.
I think the mistake you're making is assuming that Sony is trying to do anything but sell PS+ subscriptions. Keeping that goal in mind, tossing older expensive games and newer cheaper games at subscribers is a successful strategy.
bigboss370
Member
"the online multiplayer, the asynchronous challenges and the single player campaign will all be present in the PS Plus version"
"demo" my butt.
"demo" my butt.
I don't remember the specific numbers for anything in the Horizon demo. I'll quickly try the demo out and report back. Although Test Drive Unlimited is somewhat similar to the Quake and UT examples from what I recall, and that was from the previous gen, and a racing game.
flyinpiranha
Member
Not going off the deep end. If my text comes through as yelling it shouldn't. I'm just typing while eating lunch.
It was mentioned as an "almost complete" game and it was pushed with PS+ during launch.
Here's a Eurogamer Article in September, 2013:
and this was reported on repeatedly around the time. Since then? Of course it's changed.
You're right. My bad.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
What is wrong with you people.
Hitokiri03
Member
Im ok with content, what I really want to know is the price of the upgrade.
TheJollyCorner
Member
It seems to me (& I'm sure that has probably been mentioned) like Sony was positioning DriveClub to be kind of a 'pack-in' game for launch to push PS+ subscriptions, as online access has been free on PS3 since day 1 of that system. It was a way to lessen the blow of "oh man, I gotta pay for a subscription service now to play online?"
This also takes into account Sony likely figuring they might be really going to war with the X1 in November and offering up a PS+ edition of a next-gen first party game would have been a compelling bonus to buy their system instead of Microsoft's.
Now that the game is releasing almost 11 months post-launch, I was wondering how this would all work out. PS4 is outpacing X1 worldwide (and I expect that to continue growing as the year goes along), the PS+ subscriptions have sky-rocketed, and all the sudden they don't really need DriveClub to do what it might have been intended to do as a launch game.
I think it's great that they are still offering a pretty robust PS+ version upon release, but it doesn't surprise me at all that it's no longer 'pretty much the full game minus some cars and tracks'.
I don't think that's a mistake at all. They aren't sitting there with one singular goal at any cost, I think that's rather daft of an assumption.
Yes, selling PSN+ subscriptions is the most obvious motive (that I didn't feel needed pointed out) but there are other strategies involved as well. Attracting people to their products in general for instance.. one sub for all products.. "Hey I got PSN+ for PS4, and I could be getting free stuff for Vita.. hmmmm".. Patently obvious that for instance is part of their strategy.. it's not just "SELL SUBSCRIPTIONS AT ANY COST!"
And again just selling the hardware isn't profitable for Sony.. hardware + PSN+ sub isn't very profitable either.. the end goal of any loss leader (or near loss leader) is to get people on board to then pay money for the profitable items.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
What was the number for Gran Turismo HD?
Nealand Liquor
Member
I really hope this isn't a new trend starting of glorified demos on ps+. I can't say I am impressed with the paltry amount of content in this ps+ version, and yes I expect more. Sony has traditionally given more with plus setting a standard of what to expect. I really hope, albeit possibly foolishly, that now Sony has hidden mp behind a paywall they start giving less noteworthy content. Sadly now that they are leading the console race and regained support in the West we'll have to endure another round of launch PS3 Sony attitude of arrogance.
What the hell were people expecting from a game that also had to have a retail release? They aren't making any money from people getting the PS+ version. It is simply there for people to try out and purchase the full game. So a demo of sorts. Was never going to it supposed to be anything more.
Hey! Let's all complain that we're not getting a brand-new full-fledged much-delayed high-budget title on the day it comes out for free!!!!!
Seriously guys. They didn't spend the time and money developing the game if they were just going to give the whole shebang away for nothing just for subscribing to PS+. PS+ is a good value, sure, but that's just a little ridiculous to think.
I'm happy with the amount of content here for the price. It's enough to let me get a feel for the way the cars handle, what the track deisgn is like, and how the various modes play. If I like what I see, then I'll go out and purchase the full game for access to the rest of it. Call it a demo if you want, but it sounds like they are giving enough content here to let casual racers get their fill, earn trophies, and race with their friends. Those that want more will get the option to buy more. Sounds great to me!
Seriously guys. They didn't spend the time and money developing the game if they were just going to give the whole shebang away for nothing just for subscribing to PS+. PS+ is a good value, sure, but that's just a little ridiculous to think.
I'm happy with the amount of content here for the price. It's enough to let me get a feel for the way the cars handle, what the track deisgn is like, and how the various modes play. If I like what I see, then I'll go out and purchase the full game for access to the rest of it. Call it a demo if you want, but it sounds like they are giving enough content here to let casual racers get their fill, earn trophies, and race with their friends. Those that want more will get the option to buy more. Sounds great to me!
I can't remember that, but the Prologue demo had seven cars. Only one track.
figadapaura
Member
Seems good enough to me. I don't know what other people were expecting.
You're gonna get this on release. The full game will cost more than your yearly PS+ subscription. Jeez.
You're gonna get this on release. The full game will cost more than your yearly PS+ subscription. Jeez.
NullPointer
Member
I think it was two cars (viper and evo if memory serves, though I am prone to waking dreamstates), one or two race events and a small chunk of the open world map. It was definitely just a small taste, but enough to get a handle on the driving model and open world elements.
This PS+ seems like a lot of content for a demo. But its hard to exactly peg just what the hell this is without knowing the full game and cost of upgrading it ;p
Yes, that's what was promised last year. And now "part" of the single player campaign can be played. Almost like...a demonstration of the full campaign.
SmokedMeat
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Five tracks with eleven distinct variants sounds pretty good to me. The only thing I agree on is I don't want demos offered as a "free game of the month".
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Was always buying a boxed copy, I will still buy the boxed copy.
It will never happen (this decade). Microsoft's Xbone priority at the moment seems to be getting that original television programming out! TV first, games for gold.....later. Isn't that how it works?
Killing_Joke
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So PS+ is slowly turning into shit because people want their free full game instead of a "demo"? Purposely calling a demo even though it wipes the floor with what an average game demo is? I guess we should have a monthly PS+ sucks thread since i don't care for the free games they give out some months. The trolling is too obvious.
Goodacre0081
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until we know whats included in the full retail package I think were jumping to the conclusion that the 10 cars and 5 tracks are only a tiny fraction of what is going to be offered. I personally don't expect Forza/GT levels of drivable cars for this game, more like 30-50
i thought it was in their plans to start separating modes like that. like offering the MP modes on PS+ and Single player behind the retail price. or vice versa.
i thought it was in their plans to start separating modes like that. like offering the MP modes on PS+ and Single player behind the retail price. or vice versa.
eh, its not trolling. I'm in the PSN thread every tuesday, buy almost every game that drops on PS4, and generally have been pleased w/ ps+.
If this what we get for the month of October, then that'd suck. But thats it, it'd just be a bad month for me- not trying to make a bigger argument that sony #YOULIED, or that ps+ isn't worth it.
Just a bad month if thats all we get, thats all.
Cthulhu_Steev
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So the Sony giving all the games out on Vita and PS3 every month with PS+ are the good guys, and the PS4 Sony are the arrogant ones, yes?
Bedameister
Member
I hope they haven't changed their mind about the platinum trophy. But that makes me wonder how hard the platinum trophy might be and how long the whole game will be.
camaropilot
Member
Wow some of you need to go back and read your own comments. Many entitled sounding people here. There is still a business to run and developers to pay so they can take care of their own families.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Forza horizon is an open world racer. Which in the demo you can only freeroam with one car. Its nowhere near comparable.
Even still, that is one game. The general way this goes is racing demos have very little content.
Comparing other genres is just silly. Especially arena shooters.
1 track, 2 variations (reverse)
10 cars (all had stock and tuned versions were unlockable for all cars)
2 game modes, time trial and drift trial
Doctor_Thomas
Member
I am not mad, because this is what I expected it to be based on what they had said. I never expected it to have the variety of the final version, I think it exists more as an entry so that people who are taken in can buy the full game. A demo with a twist.
I do, however, think that there needs to be more than just Driveclub for the month it is released, if only because it's kind of damaging to the Instant Game Collection as new "games". Maybe have an older retail game or a newer indie game on there as well.
I do, however, think that there needs to be more than just Driveclub for the month it is released, if only because it's kind of damaging to the Instant Game Collection as new "games". Maybe have an older retail game or a newer indie game on there as well.
Well the Plus Ed doesn't have the full single player, so I wouldn't count on that.
NullPointer
Member
They make money from PS+ subscriptions. DriveClub PS+ version is another reason to get a PS+ sub. There be money there.
Whoever said "PS+ edition is the retail game minus a few cars and tracks" was just speaking in PR. Every game developer eases/softens their language when talking about the truth of their games. There's no way you'd get the majority of the game for free, simple as that. They have a game to sell, ya know.
Maybe the PS+ Edition will have its own separate platinum trophy.
I guarantee that when it started it was about selling subscriptions. Now it's changed somewhat with the whole PS ecosystem across three devices, and PS+becoming something of an enticement of its own, but this all started because they wanted to make money off subscriptions. Microsoft was making boatloads and they wanted some of that.
And they can make a lot of money from subscriptions alone. Not sure why you think otherwise.
So by that logic, what they're now claiming should also not be believed, right?
Fucking hell stop saying it would be for free.
boredandlazy
Member
To be honest, I was expecting more content. I guess this makes more sense but I can't help but feel a bit disappointed.
Doesn't matter whether it's 'PR Speak' or not, what they said in that interview is not what we're getting.
Doesn't matter whether it's 'PR Speak' or not, what they said in that interview is not what we're getting.