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[Beer Monkey]

To Beer Monkey.

At launch the PS4 version of ghosts had what people thought was framerate issues, but were instead instances where the framerate went beyond 60 fps. That bug has now been fixed and there are no more framerate issues on the ps4 version.

That's a lie. Framerate is worse in the multiplayer on PS4 (this is a whole separate issue from the launch judder on the PS4 version). Of course, it's because it renders at 1080p while the XB1 version does not, but please stop repeating the lie that the PS4 multiplayer isn't worse than on XB1. Repeating a lie enough doesn't make it true, and this lie has been repeated too much already.

I'm more impressed you can spot 1-3fps differences judging from your previous post.

There's nothing impressive about detecting dropped frames. They are very noticeable, but the bottom line is the PS4 version (IN MULTPLAYER) does more than drop 1-3 frames here and there.

 

[prag16]

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PSA: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=110363968&postcount=1792

Maybe that should be added to OP or something.

 

[SapientWolf]

Nah. Wrong. Do you have ANY idea about how for decades PC gamers have been dropping their resolution and detail to guarantee 60fps online?

Competitive online mulltiplayer gamers are a different breed, and you bet your ass they'll settle for 900p if that's what it takes to get a solid 60fps.

Hopefully unlike with Ghosts the future CoD games drop to sub-1080p on PS4 (for multiplayer) if that's what it takes to sustain 60fps.

I'm one of the biggest framerate snobs here and I can't do it unless it's a CRT. The hit in IQ is just too large on a PC monitor.

 

[Metfanant]

Nah. Wrong. Do you have ANY idea about how for decades PC gamers have been dropping their resolution and detail to guarantee 60fps online?

Competitive online mulltiplayer gamers are a different breed, and you bet your ass they'll settle for 900p if that's what it takes to get a solid 60fps.

Hopefully unlike with Ghosts the future CoD games drop to sub-1080p on PS4 (for multiplayer) if that's what it takes to sustain 60fps.

wrong? it was DF themselves that said the clarity of the PS4 version outweighed the framerate advantages...

you also act like the PS4 version is a stuttery mess constantly dropping frames...which completely is not true lol...or that the framerate of the Xbone version didnt take a hit with one of the patches...

i mean this....

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-performance-drops-on-cod-ghosts-patch

is pure "butter" right??...

the PS4 version is FAR from perfect...but lets not pretend things are as black and white as you say they are...

 

[plainr_]

Damn, I thought this was going to be current-gen only.

 

[Kimosabae]

Just watched the doc on PMCs and saw this trailer.

Just another feather in Kojima's cap. Always found people dismissing the Solid series as complete nonsense the passed 13 years (and admittedly a lot of it was) but it turns out Sons of Liberty was one of the most precocious video games of my generation.

 

[AdanVC]

PSA: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=110363968&postcount=1792

Maybe that should be added to OP or something.

Ops. Apologies. Yeah I think it would be a good idea to add that info on the OP.

 

[WeAreKappa]

idk guys.. Gaming is no longer funny when the only thing you cant talk about is tech stuff.

That the framerate, that the ress, 60 fps durrr, 900p 1080..That the AA...


Why is this we always have the urge to discuss about these meaningless things? I mean.. can we discuss about the game itself? about the trailer?

Man we really need to pull our heads out of our asses

 

[Brutal Truth]

circular logic of saying nothing.

With exoskeletons and vehicles similar to Halo. People are talking more about the parkour/jet shoes than the ghost vehicle shown in the video. Might just be me.

 

[Caayn]

Looks interesting. Why am I not surprised that this is also releasing on the last-gen

 

[Big_Al]

Same. Having played CoD1, 2, MW1 and 2, its very obvious to me that its no longer by the same developer, and the quality has dropped.

Treyarch seem like a cool bunch and they do put some good stuff (Zombies !), but it was built on the foundation IW created.

This looks like fun (always does, freaking marketing !), but I'm too burnt out on CoD now, from the quality dip after the IW firings/leavings, to having bought 2 shoddy CoD ports on PC (BLOPS and Ghosts), I'm done with the series (sadly, the CoD gameplay is tight as fuck, but getting old now).

Spacey is cool though. Wonder if he appears twice in the campaign never to be seen again (Doggy).

Actually I'd argue to an extent that Treyarch (or more specifically the Gray Matter folks who were merged into Treyarch) influenced the Call Of Duty design, if not as obviously as say COD4.

For example United Offensive, which was fantastic, had a multiplayer ranking system (per match, not persistent) which gave the player additional benefits. I'm not claiming that a ranking system is unique but it was the first time anything like that was in the series and it wasn't IW that came up with it.

I always feel like United Offensive gets forgotten for good it is/was and how much it added to the COD games.

 

[phazedplasma]

Looks the same but with better AA

 

[Tripolygon]

Nah. Wrong. Do you have ANY idea about how for decades PC gamers have been dropping their resolution and detail to guarantee 60fps online?

Competitive online mulltiplayer gamers are a different breed, and you bet your ass they'll settle for 900p if that's what it takes to get a solid 60fps.

Hopefully unlike with Ghosts the future CoD games drop to sub-1080p on PS4 (for multiplayer) if that's what it takes to sustain 60fps.

The last digital foundry frame test in multiplayer. And no, they should definitely not drop PS4 to sub 1080p, PS4 version is not a mess compared to the Xbox One version.

Edit: PS4 version goes over 60fps which is since been fixed according to digital foundry. I mostly play single player campaigns so i wouldn't know the performance as they are currently.

 

[Schweinehund]

I don't blame activision for making it cross gen, but it is hard to get excited for games when they're still being tied to old hardware.

 

[shungokusatsu]

Posted?

http://news.xbox.com/2014/05/games-call-of-duty-advanced-warfare?linkId=8131787

and again brings all add-on content first to Xbox.

Pretty sure no one expected any different, but there's confirmation regardless.

 

[CryptiK]

Nah. Wrong. Do you have ANY idea about how for decades PC gamers have been dropping their resolution and detail to guarantee 60fps online?

Competitive online mulltiplayer gamers are a different breed, and you bet your ass they'll settle for 900p if that's what it takes to get a solid 60fps.

Hopefully unlike with Ghosts the future CoD games drop to sub-1080p on PS4 (for multiplayer) if that's what it takes to sustain 60fps.

I play FPS's at a professional level and having a lower resolution in windowed mode and streatching a lower resolution are completely different things. No one I know plays a PC game for example at a sub 1080p resolution and stretches it to fit. And competitive PC gamers are never happy with 60 fps its either 120 plus or flop.

 

[Digital-Hero]

This may be the first COD game I play in awhile. I totally skipped Ghosts.

 

[Psychoward]

If in the end Spacey doesn't turn on the player character I will eat my shoe.

 

[Beer Monkey]

The last digital foundry frame test in multiplayer.

Thanks for proving the guys who are saying PS4 is 60fps or as solid at XB1 in multiplayer wrong. You really don't need to do anything but play both to tell, but the framerate graphs prove it and this is not judder from >60fps framerate, it is dropped frames.

And no, they should definitely not drop PS4 to sub 1080p

Easy solution, why not have both? Easy enough to put a "maximize multiplayer framerate (may reduce detail)" option deep in the menus. The hardcore will find it and choose it.

I play FPS's at a professional level and having a lower resolution in windowed mode and streatching a lower resolution are completely different things. No one I know plays a PC game for example at a sub 1080p resolution and stretches it to fit. And competitive PC gamers are never happy with 60 fps its either 120 plus or flop.

GPU scaling has come a long way, but we're talking consoles anyway. Plenty of people who own BOTH XB1 and PS4 have admitted a preference for the XB1 version (for MULTIPLAYER). Just because we sit on our couch doesn't mean we don't want the best framerate possible.

 

[Andrew.]

So you think COD is a big enough brand to sway in just about any huge ass Hollywood name for every iteration just to generate buzz? I mean if they manage to get Spacey can you imagine any bigger name? Someone like Morgan Freeman perhaps..

Freeman was already in South Park: The Stick of Truth

 

[MakeMeFeelAlive]

So, metal gear and titanfall combined? Gameplay may not be bad, bit I wish they would drop the COD moniker. I want them to go back to what the series was. Either COD modern warfare, or old school medal of honor/cod stuff. But I guess I'm pretty much alone on this.

 

[Tripolygon]

Thanks for proving the guys who are saying PS4 is 60fps or as solid at XB1 in multiplayer wrong. You really don't need to do anything but play both to tell, but the framerate graphs prove it and this is not judder from >60fps framerate, it is dropped frames.

Look closer

 

[Metfanant]

Thanks for proving the guys who are saying PS4 is 60fps or as solid at XB1 in multiplayer wrong. You really don't need to do anything but play both to tell, but the framerate graphs prove it and this is not judder from >60fps framerate, it is dropped frames.

you do realize he posted those images showing the Xbone version dropping into the 40's in framerate right??...

i guess you glossed over this, so let me post it again...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-performance-drops-on-cod-ghosts-patch

 

[Soyongdori]

Obligatory title change to "House of Duty", "Call of Cards", or "House of CODs"

 

[Matush]

Posted?

http://news.xbox.com/2014/05/games-call-of-duty-advanced-warfare?linkId=8131787



Pretty sure no one expected any different, but there's confirmation regardless.

Wasn't this announced at Microsoft's E3 where they said that they have 3 or 4 year exclusive contract with Activision?

 

[Beer Monkey]

Look closer

I watched the entire video. XB1 holds higher framerate. When it drops, it drops less, period. that's the bottom line.

1080p at all costs means just that, there are costs.

I actually own a PS4 and an XB1 (I'll bet most of the people getting so salty at my opinions do not). I'll be buying all cross-platform titles on PS4, with the exception that multiplayer shooters will be evaluated separately based on framerate.

i guess you glossed over this, so let me post it again...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-performance-drops-on-cod-ghosts-patch

I have played the April 30th versions of both, I don't really care about February.

 

[DrkSage]

Crazy idea that came to my head...

Imagine that multiplayer everyone will have exoskeleton and it will be divided in 3 parts, head/visor/helmet whatever they call it, upper or torso exoskeleton (arms,hand,chest) and last lower body(legs) exoskeleton.

The perk system will be divided in those 3 parts.

Head/visor/helmet will have perks like detecting explosives , hear enemy steps louder, and stuff like that idk

Upper or torso exoskeleton will have perks like slight of hand, a perk to throw shit further, those weird wall crawling gloves and whatever else SH comes up with.

Lower body exoskeleton will have perks like marathon, a perk to make you jump higher and whatnot, something like that.

 

[Metfanant]

I watched the entire video. XB1 holds higher framerate. When it drops, it drops less, period. that's the bottom line.

1080p at all costs means just that, there are costs.

I actually own a PS4 and an XB1 (I'll bet most of the people getting so salty at my opinions do not). I'll be buying all cross-platform titles on PS4, with the exception that multiplayer shooters will be evaluated separately based on framerate.



I have played the April 30th versions of both, I don't really care about February.

holy shit bro...are you not even reading the posts??...the video that youre being linked to doesnt even SHOW both versions...it shows ONLY the Xbone version post February patch compared to launch...dropping frames all over the place lol...

notice how DF never updated the article...or followed up saying it was fixed?...i guess your eyes are better than the framerate analysis tool...lol

 

[WeAreKappa]

PC gamers are never happy with 60 fps its either 120 plus or flop.

Christ

 

[rob305]

.Looks really nice!
And lol at all the silly framerate talk. Im sure the game will end up playing fine on every system

 

[Tripolygon]

I watched the entire video. XB1 holds higher framerate. When it drops, it drops less, period. that's the bottom line.

1080p at all costs means just that, there are costs.

I have played the April 30th versions of both, I don't really care about February.

What happens when a game dropped to 900p does not even hold a rock solid 60fps as you are so adamant is paramount to the experience. I think it needs to be dropped to 600p so you enjoy that crisp smooth 120fps.

In the words of a wise man

That's a lie. Framerate is worse in the multiplayer on PS4 .Repeating a lie enough doesn't make it true, and this lie has been repeated too much already.

 

[MisterXDTV]

The trailer looks good, but it's another PS360 game ported to X1/PS4 right? Meh.

I think this time it's the other way around. It's a PS4/X1 Game ported to PS360....

 

[mangochutney]

Didn't see these posted, from their FB page.

 

[The Lamonster]

I'm gonna hold off until Treyarch's 2015 installment, but just wanted to say I'd be way more interested in a Future Warfare that takes place a few decades even after Advanced Warfare does.

Or World War 1, I think that'd be interesting too. WW2 and present-day are just so played out by now.

 

[Fractal]

Meh, nothing really impressive here. All points out to another typical CoD game, and I got bored of the franchise a while ago.

 

[Metfanant]

Or World War 1, I think that'd be interesting too.

whats with all the WWI stuff?...people do realize that if looked at from a gameplay standpoint it would probably be the most boring war of all time...

2 armies in trenches a few hundred yards apart, and every once and awhile one of them is stupid enough to try and charge across the gap only to be slaughtered??...oh and random gas attacks i guess...

 

[werks]

I watched the entire video. XB1 holds higher framerate. When it drops, it drops less, period. that's the bottom line.

1080p at all costs means just that, there are costs.

I actually own a PS4 and an XB1 (I'll bet most of the people getting so salty at my opinions do not). I'll be buying all cross-platform titles on PS4, with the exception that multiplayer shooters will be evaluated separately based on framerate.



I have played the April 30th versions of both, I don't really care about February.

LOL, maybe they should drop the XB1 version to 480p. You are a joke.

 

[Chinpoko_Master]

The graphics are surprisingly good. I'm actually kinda interested in this now.

 

[maneil99]

Ghosts framerate drops have nothing to do with the power of thr console. You can stand ( Test it yourself ) in a spot in private match over the course of a few minutes with no conditions changing your framerate will occasionally drop and raise back up. Its likely engine or coding issues vs power.

 

[TheCloser]

I watched the entire video. XB1 holds higher framerate. When it drops, it drops less, period. that's the bottom line.

1080p at all costs means just that, there are costs.

I actually own a PS4 and an XB1 (I'll bet most of the people getting so salty at my opinions do not). I'll be buying all cross-platform titles on PS4, with the exception that multiplayer shooters will be evaluated separately based on framerate.



I have played the April 30th versions of both, I don't really care about February.

Lol. your trolling is not even subtle. Please, just stop, what a joke.

 

[CONRAD]

Looks alright. Ghost was visually impressive (space, sky scrapers, egypt ect)
and it controlled well enough yet it managed to be a terrible FPS.

Seems like the devs are more bored with the franchise than the gamers. Here's hoping the gameplay doesn't suck.

Being tied to last gen systems isn't a good start.

 

[ref]

No point arguing about framerates I feel in regards to Ghosts. Games engine and optimization is horrible in general. Look at the PC version.

Advanced Warfare reminds me of Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter (only the name), it bothers me because I loved Advanced Warfighter. I miss Terrorist Hunt game types.

Looking forward to the next Treyarch CoD honestly, at least they tried to make the campaign different.

 

[unholyrevenger72]

As long as Spacey's Character celebrates the his Presidential Election by doing this i might be interested

 

[RedAssedApe]

house of cards twitter tweeted this to call of duty twitter heh

 

[That1Guy]

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[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

idk guys.. Gaming is no longer funny when the only thing you cant talk about is tech stuff.

That the framerate, that the ress, 60 fps durrr, 900p 1080..That the AA...


Why is this we always have the urge to discuss about these meaningless things? I mean.. can we discuss about the game itself? about the trailer?

Man we really need to pull our heads out of our asses

I'm with you, if this was a resolution frame rate thread it would be ok, but man, it always become a my console is better than yours bs

 

[Filaipus]

SHG employee here. Really happy to finally be able to share this with you all.

Lots more to come in the following months but really glad that everyone is as hyped about Spacey as we are!

Trailer was really good, I haven't really played a COD game since mw1 (got mw2/mw3 and was dissapointed by the multiplayer a lot, so never touched them again) but this got me interested.

Just one thing, why do the action sequences in first person look SO MUCH BETTER than the other parts (the Kevin Spacey model didn't look as good as all the others, specially his hair)??

 

[luckygodzilla]

SHG employee here. Really happy to finally be able to share this with you all.

Lots more to come in the following months but really glad that everyone is as hyped about Spacey as we are!

It's definitely looking good so far! Definitely on my radar, and I'm really looking forward to its E3 showing.

 

[Metfanant]

SHG employee here. Really happy to finally be able to share this with you all.

Lots more to come in the following months but really glad that everyone is as hyped about Spacey as we are!

if true....

just get it over with and give us the native resolutions...

 

[Bgamer90]

SHG employee here. Really happy to finally be able to share this with you all.

Lots more to come in the following months but really glad that everyone is as hyped about Spacey as we are!

Lots interest in the series years ago but I just might pick this one up. You guys have definitely brought some interest back into the series so congrats. Looking forward to seeing more vids.