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Nintendo Fiscal Meeting - Over
- Thread starter Sammy Samusu
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BundysFeet
Banned
Not really. Nintendo didn't bring the big hitters to the Wii and the Wii was successful. Fact is Nintendo failed. EA doesn't have much to do with this.
Damn. I wonder if Nintendo would be making more money if they kept making Wii games instead of coming out with the Wii U.
Duxxy3
Member
Probably would have sold a lot more software.
No, but there's some other third party games not listed. I'm guessing they don't know when it comes out and elected to not add it here.
Interceptor
Banned
This still seems to be missed:
SUMMER
Why are people talking about EA now?
EA isn't the reason Wii U is bombing. The Wii U is the reason the Wii U is bombing. It was failed from its conception which was back in 2008 probably.
It also needs to be said that the Wii U's failings aren't from now, but from decisions made years ago. The reasons you're seeing the non answers from Iwata are because there's nothing they can do other than ride it out and satisfy the consumers they do have. (
). Which is what they're doing. I don't know why everyone gets so emotional over this shit, and it's coming from both sides people who like and don't like what Nintendo's doing.
EA isn't the reason Wii U is bombing. The Wii U is the reason the Wii U is bombing. It was failed from its conception which was back in 2008 probably.
It also needs to be said that the Wii U's failings aren't from now, but from decisions made years ago. The reasons you're seeing the non answers from Iwata are because there's nothing they can do other than ride it out and satisfy the consumers they do have. (
If this gets misconstrued as me defending Iwata when in reality I'm just giving an explanation for his actions I'm gonna laugh
My point is the gamepad concept is inherently flawed and there is no piece of software they can cook up that is going to be "decisive" enough to change anyone's mind on that. Nintendo Land was that software, and it failed.
They are wasting money, time and Miyamoto's team on a concept no one cares about.
Probably. People keep talking about consumer trust. Nintendo shows they don't give a shit about the consumer when they end development years early on software etc.
I think they would have. They probably should have waited for the PS4 and Xbone to be out while upping team sizes to prepare for HD development, seeing as the headstart didn't help them out much at all. But hindsight is 20/20, and who knows if they would've been able to prepare for HD development, even with extra time to prepare.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
They are not profitable right now, thats the issue. And everyone pointed out how bad the ship sailed with WiiU venture. Half of the problems are consequence of believing their own Kool Aid about Wii, markets and "magical" gaming. People here like to joke that the doom talk has been since before they entered the videogame bussiness but they catalog everything that is not "Nintendo innovates" as doom and gloom.
Nintendo doesn't want to compete with Sony and MS but during the Wii years they were pretty happy to consider the Phone stuff as direct a competitor even when they don't want to invest in powerful hardware and later could not even compete with Sony/MS.
Sorry, but I'm tired of Nintendo "doing their own thing" as some sort of whimsical excuse that would make even current Disney blush.
Bayonetta 2 has always been a summer title for Japan.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Well gladly you recognize you are a human. Other humans have different point of views as well. Not difficult to understand.
muyricosuave
Member
I'd buy all the Legend of Zelda ones. As well as the Metroid ones. And maybe some Mario ones. And little Mac of course. Hmm fuck it all the figurines. I just cant stop
They talked about it today anyways
PotionBleue
Member
No but this time Watch_Dogs actually shows up on the presentation (page 2) while it was completely absent from October 2013 and January 2014 meetings.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
And i have the right to question them, like them have the right to do it to me.
whoa whoa whoa.
Mario Kart Wii was released in April 2008. we are more than 6 years later, a console generation. Nintendo abandoned the Wii in maybe mid 2011 (or earlier) ?
Can't be trusted.
I am not expecting Zelda U this year. Thinking fall 2015 (3 years after WiiU release- what a joke).
Should see X at least in the last quarter this year.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Interceptor
Banned
Lets hope thats going to change soon now that the Wii U is sold at no loss, no new HQs are being build, no tsunamis washing away your currency and no old CEOs to die which force you to buy millions of shares back. ^^ We don´t wan´t Nintendo to be independend so they can be something something disney but to offer something different than the norm. Even Iwata thinks like this (January: Continue being a independend hardware&software company to create truly unique stuff).
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
So you forgot whatever point you were trying to make?
Blue Ranger
Neo Member
Any wird on Animal Crossingg U?
"In order to introduce overseas fans to this new franchise, our overseas subsidiaries produced and broadcast the Tomodachi Life Direct footage online. Fans have responded favorably to the footage by saying, 'Once again, Nintendo will bring us another weird software title!' I personally have been hearing their reactions, and while some people still do not know what kind of game 'Tomodachi Life' is, it appears that a number of them want to play it anyway."
Iwata reads GAF.....?
probably just the youtube comments
Its in the result briefing.
Smiles and Cries
Member
that is just from my perspective and experience, I know how I felt and that is where I place part of the responsibility
NFSMWU best looking vesion of the racer, 4+ months late full price no Airport DLC is what I remember and I was the biggest fan of this series. I spent tones of money on cars for NFS World even I doubt many gaffers even knew there was a NFS MMO lol
That game was the best effort seen on the Wii U by a 3rd party developer and the publisher did little to help it sell
Mass Effect 3, my only chance to get into the series becuse I did not own any other hardware. If you only owned a Wii U EA made promises on a stage and turned around and burned you. Try buying ME3 full price and see release for a Trilogy at the same price on all other platforms come on man give me a break EA helped dig the hole
WiiU will have the most games I care about but there is no way I can be Wii U only I need a PS4 but even after I own a PS4 I'm not going to forgive EA for that, it was business for them and this time its my money. This is a company who does deals like Titanfall someone is going to be salty if you are a one console fan. I am not blaming EA for doing good business, Wii U is bad business but they helped bury it. They did all they could to kill the games they had published for it so blatantly that it seemed like they did it out of spite. From my perspective the memory is fresh on that. I could say Ubisoft is helping to dig the hole as well even though I just played CHILD OF LIGHT on Wii U and loved it. If I want Child of Light DLC I wont find it on Wii U.
The mistake in the hardware was Nintendo's doing. The software support it gets hurts much more because as a gamer it is all about the gameplay experience. If the games are hardly supported the hardware becomes meaningless. PS4 could be the most powerful thing out there but if it had the same bullshit WiiU support gamers would feel it. It is about the games so you have to look at who is supporting a platform and who is shovelling shit at it.
"To enjoy these features even when you are not playing this game on the console, we are planning to offer a web service called Mario Kart TV (temp.), which also enables users to watch videos in a screen layout suitable for systems such as smart devices and computers, around the same time as the release of Mario Kart 8."
Damnit Gibbo
Damnit Gibbo
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Blame the gamepad
Didn't expand when they have better time and money and everyone was panicking about HD
Nintendo was not the only company affected.
Because the Old CEO family don't trust you enough, you want to stabilize the price of the shares because your fuck ups and bluffing, not mention you want to stay in your position (a temporal salary cut and a vague new product will help)
I stop believing in that corporate rethoric since the Gamecube days.
Interceptor
Banned
Given the audience and the japanese background this is a really important sentence to make on a briefing like this:
Iwata will pull all strings to make the next year profitable.
Iwata will pull all strings to make the next year profitable.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
No it means you learned quickly
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Well, he stopped BS the sale figures... is an advance I guess...
Frantic speculation on poorly communicated tweets is half the fun! Still not sure how this is different from the games upload to YouTube functionality.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
So I should not make a comment about him blaming others of not buying W101? Note that I bought that game in launch month
Interceptor
Banned
Nah, i love it. Best thing about the system.
These things, they take time. Nintendo is a small company with a very strict DNA. Iwata explained this a couple of years ago. You can´t just double your workforce without watering down your DNA. Small steps.
Correct. So? Doesn´t change the fact they lost a shitton of money to it. Like everyone else.
Thats a lot of stuff you like to hear but not neccessarly based in reality. You don´t know why they wanted to sell (they didn´t even sell all of it) I won´t even comment the rest. ^^
If you would haved believed it, you could have seen the Wii, the DS and even the Wii U coming from a mile ahead. Nintendo are one of the few companies that are quite clear about the stuff they want to do, yet no one listens. Latest example is the fusion stuff. Iwata states a new handheld and a console with a unified OS are going to happen and the internet understood it as a new unified hardware.
astrogamer
Member
Wasn't the share buyback more taxes on the old CEO's family more than anything else
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Nevermind it seems you think I was taking a side.
Smiles and Cries
Member
If you only got your Wii U for Nintendo games then yes you can only blame Nintendo for everything. In my experience the Wii U was not a NSMBU machine. That was not the reason I wanted to get a Wii U. Finally an HD console so hey support would come. I never said EA was the reason Wii U failed but what I am saying is they HELPED to bury it. From my experience in purchasing those games they helped.
I cannot say Wii U has not games since I foolishly own over 30 of them, early Nintendo support sucked until 3D World for me. And MK8 and X are really the two games keeping me around. So I got my Wii U for all the wrong reasons since 2d Mario and party games are no longer my thing. EA made fans a promise, it was a meme around here, why should I give them a pass for my foolish purchase? Nope, nope EA helped my feelings about WiiU fail.
Zeyphersan
Banned
No, but I also don't think it will happen.
Interceptor
Banned
Pretty sure they won´t announce one this year. This presentation made sure of that (again). Iwata really needs a profit next year. They really want to milk the 3DS this year. This means software with a broad appeal and no new hardware. Pokemon, figurines, smash etc. They won´t produce a new hardware before e3 next year.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Nintendo is rapidly losing relevancy. They can't sit back and do nothing. They could appease the few million people who own a Wii U, or they could go after the much larger population that has entirely written off the Wii U.
Better than the games? I didn't buy a Wii U to play the Gamepad.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Animal Crossing U will happen, I have no doubts on that, kinda feel it might just be an extention of New Leaf though but I still think ACU is a thing why make the silly Wii U plaza that has an end date?
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Is not the market reality.
Excuses. They didn't want to expand until they realise that it was the only way to stand competitive
And not everyone else will use it as an excuse. Even Square Enix blame themselves for the losses.
"I love the gamepad." is not an argument based on reality. Also was discussed by other posters with actual Nintendo shares in their respective thread.
What it suppose to mean? I doubt they even expected the high sales of Wii and DS.
Nintendo are one of the few companies that are quite clear about the stuff they want to do, yet no one listens. Latest example is the fusion stuff. Iwata states a new handheld and a console with a unified OS are going to happen and the internet understood it as a new unified hardware.
Like the other systems? I can cross play in my Vita/PS3/PS4 and buy games to play in my personal computers in Steam.
El Sabroso
Member
I wouldn't take ACU out of the count when Wii U needs momentum and the Wii U app showed the interest for this version to Nintendo
Interceptor
Banned
What kind of question is this? I didn´t buy a 360 to play the controller either. But it helped that it is fucking awesome.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Tip, everyone can claim something wont happen as it doesnt exist yet. There are still people that believe Zelda would not be made for Wii U. Even today in the report thread people gasped at the 12m units for 3DS "knowing" there was nothing for it. A couple hours later pokemon was announced.