It's 3D now and battles are in a large circular area.
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Would anyone else like a "Tales of" Zelda?
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It's 3D now and battles are in a large circular area.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
seriously no.
I wasn't overly fond of Xillia's art direction either. I much prefered the anime style that Tales had in the past. Tales of Symphonia was also ridiculously similar to Final Fantasy X in terms of story. Regardless, I still enjoyed Tales of Xillia and Tales of Symphonia a lot. Tales of is consistently good. Most Tales of games also have decent character design. Hopefully Tales of goes back to the original art design, but the story is still better than the vast majority of games available, so I'm happy regardless.
Symphonia 2 and Graces have some of the worst Magic Eight Ball rolls/plot and character writing, ever.
A Zelda game with bad gameplay. Where do I sign up?
Admittedly, I've only played Tales of Phantasia and Tales of Destiny but those were two of the worst games I've ever played with nothing redeeming about either of them. I don't know why people loved the battles. The 2D action perspective did nothing but make the battles long which in turn made the dungeons tedious as hell.
Admittedly, I've only played Tales of Phantasia and Tales of Destiny but those were two of the worst games I've ever played with nothing redeeming about either of them. I don't know why people loved the battles. The 2D action perspective did nothing but make the battles long which in turn made the dungeons tedious as hell.
Dark Octave
Banned
A Zelda game that plays itself.
Spieler Eins
Member
Jude was like a nerfed but still awful Emil. At least I was still somewhat engaged by the plot in Xillia after a while.
I don't really consider Tales of Symphonia 2 part of the main Tales of series. The same way I don't consider Final Fantasy X-2 part of the main series. You have a point, but I wouldn't point to a sequel or a series that's generally standalone in an attempt to show anything general about the series. As far as Tales of Graces, maybe it's because I never played the original for the Wii, but Tales of Graces F has a pretty decent story and some very enjoyable characters. The first three or so hours of the game where they're all children is pretty annoying without a doubt, but after that I liked the game a lot. To each their own I guess.
Dr.Bergenstein
Banned
I'd rather that than Hyrule Warriors, which makes absolutely no sense when you consider what Zelda is.
I've honestly never pictured Link as this badass fighter, so anything where he's doing all of these crazy moves and combos and shit just seems off. Maybe it's just because I've been playing Zelda for over 25 years and I have this image in my head of what that universe and it's characters are supposed to be like.
I've honestly never pictured Link as this badass fighter, so anything where he's doing all of these crazy moves and combos and shit just seems off. Maybe it's just because I've been playing Zelda for over 25 years and I have this image in my head of what that universe and it's characters are supposed to be like.
Mr. Smiley
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ReyVGM
Member
Isn't Zelda 1 like Grant Theft Auto?
Jathaine
Member
You played the first two games ages and ages ago? Have you refused to even look at newer entries that clearly don't look very much like those two games at all? Even the remakes of these games look very different from the originals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPxib2vK5TM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypzGspQs8To
Either way, I'm not sure why people are talking about Tales of story/characters/art as none of that would be relevant to the game the OP is suggesting. Also, I think a Graces-like system that was tuned for a single character (Link) would also work though I did say before I'd only want it if it were in the vein of the 2D games.
X-2 is considered canon, I am pretty sure. As is Symphonia 2, no? Asbel is the single most autistic level real world decision making skills for a main character, main character, of all time - in any genre of games. Any time the nonsense about Richard and their friendship came up, I had to pause, take a deep breath, gather and focus my chi, then proceed on with the game. The story is objectively bad. Even Teletubbies would find it base and demeaning.
It's a great idea. Tales games kick ass, and namco smash them out a hell of a lot faster than nintendo makes zelda games, and it wouldn't take any resources away from nintendo and the wii u needs games. The zelda universe is probably more interesting than a lot of the tales universes too. The puzzles in zelda are better than those in tales but who cares, another true zelda game is inevitable.
I love good Tales games. I love all Zelda games (even the DS ones). And nary the two could meet.
ReyVGM
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Zelda/Sheik? A Goron? Zora? Naboru? Impa? Midna? Sahasrala? Tingle? A new character?
If Mario RPG had a party, then Zelda can have one too.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Most people agree, but lot of people seem to have the need to be a dick about one franchise and another just because...
Raging Spaniard
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fredrancour
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Thinking about this more, I'd much, much rather have a developer be given a blank check to make stuff up from scratch. If mario and luigi/paper mario both turned out amazing, so could zelda.
What's so different between those first games and games now? The first video is exactly what I remember. Taking forever to kill one regular enemy. There's not even any real strategy to it. Just keep attacking and your teammates do whatever in the background. Too much is happening on screen and it has bad annoying music.
Booty Patrol
Banned
I don't understand. It sounds like you're advocating for complacency in an area Zelda could benefit from a lot of improvement and growth in. The combat could play the same role you see it in and also have phenomenal, awesome, and engaging combat. I saw Skyward Sword as a step toward that.
Spoiler alert, nobody plays Graces for the storyline. Some Tales of games have decent story (as in, decent for an anime) but most people play for the gameplay.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
I don't like the Tales series, so I wouldn't like to see the two combined.
Uhh play any of the Tales that aren't the very first two ones.
Amazeballs
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I haven't played any tales games past Symphonia. The series became too anime for me at that point. A tales game designed with the aesthetic sensibilities of a Zelda game might actually get me back into the series.
Too obvious to merit sarcasm invested.
But Graces ratchets this up to where the badness of the story and characters is so acute, that it makes the battles worse by proxy of having to endure it in-between them.Considered canon? In terms of an extension of a standalone story? Sure, I suppose. That's a very strange term to use for an after thought sequel, but I suppose it technically fits the definition. The problem with using that term is that it pretends a similarity between games that have an ongoing story like Metal Gear and Elder Scrolls, with games that are standalone with sequels like Final Fantasy and Tales of. Canon for Final Fantasy X? I suppose, but Final Fantasy X doesn't need Final Fantasy X-2 to stand on its own.
Metal Gear needs every entry in the series to stand on its own. There's a big difference. It's MUCH easier to forgive sequels to standalone games that didn't quite meet expectations. So sure, Tales of Symphonia 2 is crap, but most people ignore it. It's easy to ignore. Anyway, that's how I look at it. Tales of Symphonia 2 was a bad idea, but it doesn't affect the rest of the series in any meaningful way.
Asbel isn't a genius, but you're being ridiculously harsh. As far as fantasy story-telling goes it's pretty tames on the intellectually devoid end. Try reading the Sword of Truth novels and then you'll see some truly annoying writing. Love conquers all, ever time, every book, for a ridiculously long series. Asbel was nothing by comparison. I'll agree the game had its moments, but you're criticizing an entire game based on a few minutes of storytelling. I don't get it. Again, to each their own, but you should really learn to use other words. Autistic is not a very polite word to use in every day conversation. It's actually incredibly rude.
Your view on them is how I look at The Matrix and Highlander.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Is that with or without Zelda 2 thrown into the mix
Because the older 2D Dark Souls can't have that said about it
Besides, like someone else said, Zelda isnt really dependent on its combat
Many other Zelda clones can never touch its in its one strength that, imo, really still hasnt been challenged by an open world game yet
Its puzzles and dungeons
And when it gets the exploration and sidequests right, they make a blissful experience
I like to compare apples and oranges too. No offense, but without clarification your argument makes absolutely no sense. In case you didn't read my edit earlier, stop using the word autistic. It's incredibly offensive to many people and there's no legitimate reason to use it other than to portray your ignorance on the subject. Asbel isn't even remotely autistic. Come on. Let's be adults here. Thanks.
It is a rather clear comparison. I just saw your edit. That you are upset, is all on you. Lighten up. Or don't.
Mango The Magician
Banned
Alternatively, I'd love it if Nintendo could actually get some of the Tales games on their consoles, I like JRPGs, I loved Abyss 3DS; why can't we get more?
Also, I'm hesitant on the idea of a Nintendo themed RPG, I fear having too many of Nintendo's characters on screen at once with any kind kind of story would end with them all fighting with each other for screen time.
Also, I'm hesitant on the idea of a Nintendo themed RPG, I fear having too many of Nintendo's characters on screen at once with any kind kind of story would end with them all fighting with each other for screen time.
No, I'm upset because I know people who have autism. My son has mild autism. Your comment was incredibly rude. If you don't want to own up to it, that's all on you, but when you use a word that's meant to describe a social disorder to imply that someone is mentally handicapped, it pisses people off. Honestly, when you use it in a negative fashion in general it pisses people off. Just be a little more empathetic to other people around you. You may not have used the word in an attempt to upset anyone, but using a word meant to describe a disorder negatively could obviously offend people. Unless you're honestly arguing that Asbel had a social disorder (which I'm not sure how you could possibly make that comment), your argument was honestly just ignorant. Just something to think about.
After reading your statement again I understand what you mean. I don't really agree that The Matrix sequels are comparative to spin offs since they were written before the first movie released (and quite honestly the Animatrix explains all of the confusion that the series creates if you watch it), but, again, everyone sees things differently. Highlander I completely understand your criticism.
I think Highlander is honestly worse than Tales of Symphonia and Final Fantasy X in that regard (because quite honestly the sequels make no sense according to the original storyline), but the comparison does have merit. Honestly I thought Final Fantasy X-2 wasn't a terrible game (though the pop star bit was pretty annoying, and the dress up barbie aspect took a bit to get past), but Final Fantasy X didn't need a sequel. Just like Highlander didn't need a sequel. Just like Tales of Symphonia really didn't need a sequel. So yes, I agree, they're basically spin offs that don't really affect the rest of the series.
I am honestly arguing that Asbel has a social disorder.
DukeTogo1300
Member
At most I would like to see them retread Zelda II, on 3DS naturally.
Tales gameplay is too simple, I really don't see what the point would be. It was a fun action-fuzed approach to RPG's when Tales first debuted, but a bit of a step backwards for Zelda.
Tales gameplay is too simple, I really don't see what the point would be. It was a fun action-fuzed approach to RPG's when Tales first debuted, but a bit of a step backwards for Zelda.
What was the last Tales game you played? Any of the recent Tales blow Zelda out of the water.
Lord_Byron28
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Id kinda like a Fire Emblem X Legend of Zelda. Some non-canon title where Marth and Link team up to defeat Grima and Ganondorf. Itd basically be Fire Emblem gameplay set in Hyrule, Link and Zelda would have their own special class set similar to Lord but specially suited to their strengths. You could recruit different characters from different races. There'd be some Fire Emblem like elements and classes in it. The goals would be to unite the stones for the Fire Emblem and awakening and recruiting the seven sages, then fight Grimadorf.
Which would you recommend? I like RPGs with fast battles, and stories and settings that aren't generic.
Also recommend something as far from cutesy anime style as humanly possible. I just typed Tales of Graces into google images. And.. it would probably have been less offensive to my eyes if I typed in "Goatse"