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Spring 2014 Tokyo MX, er, Anime |OT1.5| ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA
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AnathemicOne
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Black Bullet 01 - 04
Well I found another show of Spring 2014 that'll give Mahouka a run for its money.
So let's dissect this show starting off with the plot and atmosphere. So here we have an 'humanity on the verge of extinction'-esque theme which was profound in the beginning of the first episode (Shingeki no Kyojin anyone?). The problem is that aside from the beginning this theme is never shown again in the show. Yeah in the first episode
but there's never a city/area-wide alert when shit goes down (Note: this is common for these type of animes see Shingeki no Kyojin, Neon Genesis Evangelion, etc.), even when a
If anything this show feels more like of 'dark knight' sort of feel where you have a small group protecting the city/area in secrecy.
Pacing now! Yeah this show is obviously rushed as hell.
........where's the fucking pacing in this show?
Oh yeah plot-holes! Case-in-point is the MC's
This is all just from 4 episodes. The only redeeming quality of this show is the antagonist and his "fuck-everything-up" shtick he has going on. But seriously, while Mahouka had me confounded to its nebulous explanations, Black Bullet is competing with is nonsensical execution of its plot.
Edit: Oh yeah, Black Bullet is also pulling out the F/SN meme with is quote: "If you don't want to die, LIVE!"
Well I found another show of Spring 2014 that'll give Mahouka a run for its money.
So let's dissect this show starting off with the plot and atmosphere. So here we have an 'humanity on the verge of extinction'-esque theme which was profound in the beginning of the first episode (Shingeki no Kyojin anyone?). The problem is that aside from the beginning this theme is never shown again in the show. Yeah in the first episode
a random dude gets killed by the Gaestra
Gaestra Level 5 shows up, that is known to wtfpwn cities, the whole operation is very hush DESPITE IT BEING HUGE AS A MOTHERFUCKER.
Pacing now! Yeah this show is obviously rushed as hell.
First episode: Flash back and main antagonist shows up. Second Episode: Main antagonist interrupts wtfpwns an official conference, introduction of superbuff 'rival' to the MC, and 2nd MC undergoes identiy crisis. Third episode: 2nd MC's Identity Crisis is resolved, both MCs fight the antagonists resulting in 1st MC's death. MC resurrected and 'top-secret-awesome-mission' is initiated to stop city-wide crisis. Fourth episode: Both MCs and antagonist(s) fight again resulting MC's in winning. Mission goal failed as antagonist's succeeded. New mission goal, MC fires a railgun and wins.
Oh yeah plot-holes! Case-in-point is the MC's
"supposed death." So yeah MC died by getting shot and stabbed then gets saved from the brink of death via surgery, yeah that's all find and dandy. Then round 2 comes between MC and the antagonist and MC's goes "I WAS A CYBORG ALL ALONG!!!!!" Hold the fucking phone, you were just shot and stabbed where your supposed 'cyborg-parts' were, where the fuck was this shit during the first confrontation! I know he didn't get it via the recent surgery because the show just explained 10 years ago he already had the damn cyborg surgery.
This is all just from 4 episodes. The only redeeming quality of this show is the antagonist and his "fuck-everything-up" shtick he has going on. But seriously, while Mahouka had me confounded to its nebulous explanations, Black Bullet is competing with is nonsensical execution of its plot.
Edit: Oh yeah, Black Bullet is also pulling out the F/SN meme with is quote: "If you don't want to die, LIVE!"
the one i just watched was. i only peeped the prologue which was pretty cool. hope they make a 2nd season or a new movie based on that.
BassForever
Member
Stardust Crusaders 8
That was great, awesome fight and I'm glad we're not going to only see JoJo and Star Platinum beat all the stand users of the week.
That was great, awesome fight and I'm glad we're not going to only see JoJo and Star Platinum beat all the stand users of the week.
R_thanatos
Member
i just watched it so it's clear in my head that
he is part cyborg and still has human organs.
During the episode 4 they tell you what part the MC lost and none of the places where he took damage in ep 3 fit.
The mc lost :
- eye
- leg
- hand
And he was stabbed in the chest , so in the human parts he still got
- leg
- hand
And he was stabbed in the chest , so in the human parts he still got
use his cyborg parts before when he knew he was against an opponent of the same caliber
So ..not a plot hole.
I think it's clear if you look at the scene in ep 3.
MikeHattsu
Member
Puchim@s 31-36
Ara ara
Ara ara
BassForever
Member
Chaika The Coffin Princess 7
That feeling when the main character realizes he's harem'd himself lol
Other then that pretty solid episode, not sure how this series plans to wrap up in 5 episodes though seems like a lot of plot lines have only barely been scratched.
That feeling when the main character realizes he's harem'd himself lol
Other then that pretty solid episode, not sure how this series plans to wrap up in 5 episodes though seems like a lot of plot lines have only barely been scratched.
split cours.
AnathemicOne
Banned
I see, aside from showcasing the revealing of the
cyborg body and the antagonist going "your limbs were replaced?!"
artificial which isn't a hard assumption to make considering the amount of force he's projecting into his arm via his body with the martial art-combat style he's got going (IE he's still gotta use his apparently weak/easily 'stab-magnet' body to project those super punches)
With that cleared up the show still isn't excused with how poor its execution is. 12/13 episodes isn't even an excuse as plenty of animes with the same episode budget have done better.
PshycoNinja
Member
Black Bullet 7
And the very end you can predict because of the OP. Classic case of OP giving away more than what it should. Still love the OP. And I am finding that I love the ED to the show too. So goooooood!
This show is better than it has any right to be. It's just entertaining to watch. I find myself looking forward to each new episode. I am glad to find a show like this. The end I was really happy about from every character.
And the very end you can predict because of the OP. Classic case of OP giving away more than what it should. Still love the OP. And I am finding that I love the ED to the show too. So goooooood!
BassForever
Member
Good, would be very upset if that wasn't the case and it was just going to stop the way Sunday Without God did
MikeHattsu
Member
Silver Spoon S2 05
XD
School festivals at agricultural school is unlike any other school festival. And Hachiken takes on way too many tasks...
XD
School festivals at agricultural school is unlike any other school festival. And Hachiken takes on way too many tasks...
If it continues to sell as well as it is, I don't see any reason it won't.
R_thanatos
Member
Well the show certainly does move fast , but most of the show this year ( and the year before ) were like that.
The only show that does NOT move fast is mahouka , because it can't move fast
While it does move fast it certainly keep the setting fresh by making it change everytime , it certainly prevented me from droping into a routine.
Yeah it's very entertaining. And i really like the cast.
Nisekoi 19
Oh, the drama went a bit higher again
but well, that was fast.
Interesting to know that the only thing you need to make a girl forgive everything is
You are such a romantic, Raku.
Marika showing his uselesness, yet again.
This show is plainly cruel with Onodera
Oh, the drama went a bit higher again
but well, that was fast.Interesting to know that the only thing you need to make a girl forgive everything is
"I don't hate you"
Marika showing his uselesness, yet again.
This show is plainly cruel with Onodera
PshycoNinja
Member
Nisekoi 19
- Finally Onodera is getting somewhere and standing up for herself. Bonus points.
- Mari will never get anywhere. She has been sidelined.
- OP is still great.
- Raku deserves that after the last episode. But that was still pretty cold.
- It's about time this
!!! Thank goodness.
- "Forget about her I got Onodera." YES!!!! This is the correct mindset!!
- Shaft neck physics all up in this scene.
- LOL. I forgot about that guy. He hasn't been around in a long time!
- Onodera......... Best..... Girl......... Of All Time! She is adorable!
- Damn it. Chitoge is gonna win out in the end huh? This is dumb.
- Oh snap!!!! Raku totally deserved that. Chitoge deserves one too but this will do.
- BS!!!! They are gonna do this to Onodera. She is an angel!!! Why does this story hate her so much!
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Why?
- Why is this show so adamant about pairing up these two?
- Worst episode evah!!!
Summary:
Seriously I don't understand why the show wants to pair up Raku and Chitoge so bad. At every turn they do something to Onodera, Mari or Blue haired girl(Sorry her name has totally slipped my mind) that totally undercuts them from advancing. Like this episode. It looks like Onodera may make progress but once again the show screws her in favor of Chitoge yet again. It's so frustrating to watch. There was a few laughs here and there but this episode was so "let's undercut everyone so that
". It's so contrived and redundant at this point.
It's not even organic at this point. They force these situations on characters so that way everything conveniently works into Chitoge's favor.
Edit: And seriously how long does it take to
?
Thoughts during episode:
- Finally Onodera is getting somewhere and standing up for herself. Bonus points.
- Mari will never get anywhere. She has been sidelined.
- OP is still great.
- Raku deserves that after the last episode. But that was still pretty cold.
- It's about time this
photo thing got cleared up
- "Forget about her I got Onodera." YES!!!! This is the correct mindset!!
- Shaft neck physics all up in this scene.
- LOL. I forgot about that guy. He hasn't been around in a long time!
- Onodera......... Best..... Girl......... Of All Time! She is adorable!
- Damn it. Chitoge is gonna win out in the end huh? This is dumb.
- Oh snap!!!! Raku totally deserved that. Chitoge deserves one too but this will do.
- BS!!!! They are gonna do this to Onodera. She is an angel!!! Why does this story hate her so much!
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Why?
- Why is this show so adamant about pairing up these two?
- Worst episode evah!!!
Summary:
Seriously I don't understand why the show wants to pair up Raku and Chitoge so bad. At every turn they do something to Onodera, Mari or Blue haired girl(Sorry her name has totally slipped my mind) that totally undercuts them from advancing. Like this episode. It looks like Onodera may make progress but once again the show screws her in favor of Chitoge yet again. It's so frustrating to watch. There was a few laughs here and there but this episode was so "let's undercut everyone so that
Chitoge is forced to play Juliet
It's not even organic at this point. They force these situations on characters so that way everything conveniently works into Chitoge's favor.
Edit: And seriously how long does it take to
fix a damn locket
I have to wait another week for the blurays but at least its soon >_
Soon, Kurumi
Hey guys, been a while. I'm actually holding off on a lot of the Spring shows, as I'm going to marathon them when they finish (a lot of these shows are 12 episodes). The only one I'm watching live is Nisekoi lol
Anyways, I been on a romance kick ever since Toradora and Clannad a couple months back. Meh god, too many feels. Basically, I think most Anime do romance horribly. I don't even know why I punish myself anymore. If it's not the lack of resolution, it's usually shitty people being shitty. Randomly started watching Kimi no Iru Machi, holy god what a bunch of insufferable people.
White Album 2, School Days. Yeahhhh I think I'm at the end of my line for this sub-genre.
Have you seen Ai yori Aoshi? It doesnt really resolve a whole lot by the end but the romantic bits between the leads are very good. It had to throw some harem stuff in there but its not horrible.
Well its been an element for years but I mean its recent uptick in popularity and usage.
I hate seeing adorable girls cry.
Theres a whole lot of terrible people then. Most in fact.
Ill survive. In the meantime I will be working a gajillion hours anyway.
Why do we americans live in an unfair world, the France Sekaiichi Hatsukoi set is amazing.
That is a nice looking set actually. Very colorful and gets your attention.
MikeHattsu
Member
Puchim@s 37-42
Brazil with all those pterodactyls flying around.
I think that's all of the puchidols introduced now then.
Brazil with all those pterodactyls flying around.
I think that's all of the puchidols introduced now then.
AnathemicOne
Banned
There's a difference between 'moving fast' and 'rushing', Black Bullet is definitely the latter. Just look and how much episode 4 did. Killed off a good portion of characters we were introduced to, one-offed the main antagonist (granted he's prolly coming back), one-offed the main crisis that threatened city-destruction
(level 5 Gaestra thing)
And the side-story/semi-arc regarding Enju's
identity crisis
the 'supposed' closure being that Rentaro would always be there for her, which is already a fucking given at the end of episode 3
astrogamer
Member
Engaged to the Unidentified 12
There were some decent action scenes in there. Probably should have known it was a misunderstanding considering the lack of real drama in this show. Overall, this show isn't that great. Mashiro is cute but that is about it.
There were some decent action scenes in there. Probably should have known it was a misunderstanding considering the lack of real drama in this show. Overall, this show isn't that great. Mashiro is cute but that is about it.
I really enjoyed the show. Particularly because of Mashiro but Benio and Kobeni were awesome too.
ThreePiMatt
Member
I enjoyed it, but I agree with your assessment. It never seemed like it went far enough, it was just silliness for the first 10 episodes and then some kind of fake drama over the last bit.
BECAUSE OTP.
All the complaints I have with the show, which are similar to yours, goes back to it's manga material. The plot progression is teeerrrrrrrrible. It's meant to be cheap and frustrating in the way it baits and panders to the audience with "will they, won't they" nonsense. It's the biggest issue Nisekoi has.
Taking that into account, I'm enjoying everything else about it. The voice acting, art style, Shaft-isms, and especially the humor.
They should have divided the loli fanservice to Mahouka as well then.
R_thanatos
Member
I certainly don't think that it's ok.
I just said that by moving fast this was "entertaining" because there was no low points.
In those 4 eps , there was No point that you could call "calm" ..something was always happenning , keeping the viewer intrested.
I wish they could have time to advance the events slowly , but sometimes you just don't have the time.
No ,
Enju identity crisis served as a wide array of data for world building , exposition to the various stance in place concerning the social status of the "children".It would be very hard to accept that she doesn't go to school , "just because" ...Here they show you the various degree of acceptance for them in society ( almost none ) and the road theyt have to travel to get there ... it's part of the overall plot and narrative and it certainly wasn't meant to be solved since it was clearly discrimination.
Ep4 ending confirmed the end of ep 3 but they did it with forshadowing of more events to come. So by this point it's obvious that more is coming .. so it's prematture to call this part irrevelant when it reached his goal ( couple is reunited ) while providing enough info to understand the universe in question.
I'll also disagree that it was used as a trigger for the antagonist only.
As the antagonist was already set-up and in place BEFORE they met the protagonists and only adapted his plans because they met them ( outside of the whole sub plot ).
The rumour that started this sub plot was nothing but a "gift" , a point to be made and they didn't fought only because of this event but because the antagonist plan was a threat as a whole. Seeing as both met in the appartment in episode 1 , and that everything started at this point. i'm going to say that the side story has done his purpose , that is to shuffle the cards for everyone .
BassForever
Member
I'd say that's more a matter of when not if, especially as the cross over fighting game gave official VA for a vast majority of the characters in later parts.
Well, I don't mind it, its not annoying. The relationship between the siblings is really unique.
PshycoNinja
Member
Me too. It was my favorite show last season.
I mean I wouldn't be watching this far if I didn't totally enjoy the show despite the plot progression. Hopefully, if they do a second season, they will take a little more creative freedom when it comes to the plot and how it progresses all the characters. Everything else is done so well. I know it's a lot to ask but since many a RomCom show actually chose a person and move past first base there's no reason why Nisekoi can't. Get the locket, unlock it and resolve the story and have Raku chose someone and close the story.
Hell even by the end of Shuffle Rin chose someone and resolved the story. Don't know why other RomComs can't. (Shuffle Spoilers)
When Rin chose Asa it was organic and natural. The plot didn't undercut the others in order for situations to arise to get the MC to like Asa. It just happened naturally through their usual banter and discussions. It didn't feel forced. And I wasn't even a fan of Asa in the show but at least it didn't feel forced.
I don't really get what the relationship has to do with naked lolis.
BassForever
Member
I just realized I'm watching two different shows with a "sister" character who is head over heels for her "onii-chan" and seems like they'd yandere the hell out of any girl that gets close to them.
astrogamer
Member
Date A Live II 7
Kurumi is the best girl
Kurumi is the best girl
KURUMI IS THE BEST GIRL
Kurumi is the best girl
Kurumi is the best girl
KURUMI IS THE BEST GIRL
Well, we see her often naked partly due him sitting near. [] are the protagonists, but we take Soras perspective for the most part. But yeah, I may missed your point. What I wanted to say is: I don't mind the fanservice. Not really into lolis, but hell, when it comes to anime this is very tame and we get less booby jokes. Oh, how I resent boob jokes. Always the same stuff.
You're living the anime life.
This is the only conclusion one can possibly come to.
Jojo (2012) whatever episode I said I was up to last time to 26
God that was amazing stuff. Joseph's story beat Jonathan's multiple times over into space.
And he's grade A protagonist as well. I actually almost lost interest in the series partway into the first arc. Now I'm glad I stuck through with it.
God that was amazing stuff. Joseph's story beat Jonathan's multiple times over into space.
And he's grade A protagonist as well. I actually almost lost interest in the series partway into the first arc. Now I'm glad I stuck through with it.
Also that killer squirrel moment in the last couple of episodes, forgot which, was terrifying
I love all the references in the ASB soundtrack. It's so good.
AnathemicOne
Banned
When are 'calm' moments a bad thing? "Something always happening and the audience reacts" is essentially the same thing as a newborn baby.
Except the social status of the children was already revealed during episode 1. Sure you can say Enju's identity crisis further elaborated on that but with it being introduced and ended within the half of one episode you would be better off with an explanation from a prominent character (which happened.... twice), or better yet extend the subplot further so it doesn't feel shoved in and rushed. Fact of the matter is that it's short exposition time called into question what plot Black Bullet is trying to focus on at any given period. It felt really damn silly Enju resolved her identity crisis via
taking out the Gaestra
PshycoNinja
Member
Naruto Shippuden 362 & 363
About time the show got back to the main story and boy am I excited. This was some of the most exciting chapters in the Naruto manga so it's no wonder these episodes were so great to watch. Some better animation then usual from Naruto. I look forward to the next episode.
About time the show got back to the main story and boy am I excited. This was some of the most exciting chapters in the Naruto manga so it's no wonder these episodes were so great to watch. Some better animation then usual from Naruto. I look forward to the next episode.
This reminds me that I finished this and wanted to write a kind of review.
Basically, my main point is that I liked it, but it could have been way better.
Positives:
+ Mashiro is adorable
+ The interactions between Mashiro and Benio were awesome, best thing of the show.
+ Kobeni was a cute, likable character.
+ Nice style, nothing remarkable, but it was pleasant to watch.
+ Intoxicating OP.
Yes, now you have the song stuck in your head. You are welcome!
Negatives:
- Main one, this guy:
What is he doing here exactly? I hope to find him illustrating the word "bland" in the dictionary because wow, never has a character add so little to a story. He sucks all the fun in any scene he appears. Not funny, not interesting, without any personality, he is just an empty vessel that serves no purpose but is a main character because reasons. In fact, I dropped Engaged at the beginning thinking it would be a kind of weird romantic show, boy, I was wrong. And the few times they try to remember there is some story between him and Kobeni, it´s just sooooo bad that I kinda appreciate they didn't push that angle too much.
- Underused characters:
One episode? come on.
Totally underplayed, Nadeshiko had a ton of potential for funny situations with Benio.
- Worthless characters:
Konoha and Niko, waste of space.
- What's was point in dropping the card of Mashiro family having powers? I don't remember more than a few moments when that mattered.
So, as I mentioned at the beginning, I enjoyed my time with the series, but I feel it could have been much better.
Bonus track
MikeHattsu
Member
Silver Spoon S2 06
Dad is not amused.
A bit of a more serious episode after all the funny ones. The festival goes well and Hachiken learns that he's a bit like a potato.
Dad is not amused.
A bit of a more serious episode after all the funny ones. The festival goes well and Hachiken learns that he's a bit like a potato.
Haha, well kind of.
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