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Nintendo reveals the "New Nintendo 3DS" and "New Nintendo 3DS LL"

my exact feelings right now

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Mortemis

Banned
Didn't NoA say white handhelds didn't sell or something? But yeah, I doubt it's going to be available in NA.

With the new idea of face plates, I think they will. I mean since we can change it to any color we want, the only models that'll be available are white and black, I doubt they'll just release black. Unless we won't even get faceplates...

If we don't get white then Nintendo can keep their shitty handheld. Not really but fuck that. Edit: looking at the videos the black model doesn't look all that bad with face plates. But I swear if it doesn't come with sfc button colors then fuck you Nintendo.
 

freoleo29

Member
So this has probably been mentioned but i can't be bothered looking through 70 pages, does GBA support look likely for this "New" 3ds?
 

Brofield

Member
What boggles my mind...I look at my OoT3D 3DS...and you shift the buttons up a few millimenters, and you have room for a second full sized circle pad. Even on the LL/XL, you put the start/select buttons underneath the secondary screen, and there's room for a circle pad underneath the A/B/X/Y buttons.

Didn't they see how universally reviled the nubs were on the original PSP?

I dunno, I could be tempted with the white one and all colour buttons, but I dunno just yet...
 
What boggles my mind...I look at my OoT3D 3DS...and you shift the buttons up a few millimenters, and you have room for a second full sized circle pad. Even on the LL/XL, you put the start/select buttons underneath the secondary screen, and there's room for a circle pad underneath the A/B/X/Y buttons.

Didn't they see how universally reviled the nubs were on the original PSP?

I dunno, I could be tempted with the white one and all colour buttons, but I dunno just yet...

It's already uncomfortable to use the d-pad, having a stick in a similar spot that some games will use a lot would be pretty bad. Also it isn't a nub like the PSP, it stays in one place and you slide your thumb over it.
 

Volotaire

Member
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/new/lineup/index.html

From here.
This suggests a charger isn't included:



That is Google translated but seems pretty clear..
Considering they're paying the equivalent of £120 (not much more than the 2DS here) it doesn't seem awful.

The thing is it won't be £120 in the UK. Retailers will price it about £150-170, which is about the current 3DS XL price (regularly goes down to £120-130). I hope the charger is included.

Also, the 2DS goes down in price regularly to £70-80.
 

DeaviL

Banned
What boggles my mind...I look at my OoT3D 3DS...and you shift the buttons up a few millimenters, and you have room for a second full sized circle pad. Even on the LL/XL, you put the start/select buttons underneath the secondary screen, and there's room for a circle pad underneath the A/B/X/Y buttons.

Didn't they see how universally reviled the nubs were on the original PSP?

I dunno, I could be tempted with the white one and all colour buttons, but I dunno just yet...

Pretty sure this is a laptop nub, which is basically untested in the way they're using it.
I'm pretty sure it will be useless for FPS games though.
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
I have a ton of digital games. What's the transfer process? I haven't given a fuck but now the time for a full account system. Make both systems log in and full transfer.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
What're the chances we get the white model here in North America? Basically 0%?
Well white and black are very good neutral colours which is why they work well with the faceplate gimmick. I wouldn't be surprised if NoA did bring them over for you lot in the Americas because of that. It seems this 3DS may not have other colour options in the future but rather special plates and themes to entice people to splash their cash.
 

Zing

Banned
I have a ton of digital games. What's the transfer process? I haven't given a fuck but now the time for a full account system. Make both systems log in and full transfer.
Welcome to 2011. The 3DS has supported a full transfer since then. The account system is also quite old. Are you seriously saying you don't have a NNID?
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
White or Black...hmmmm.
I'm tempted to go white again like my DSi, but black would match my Wii U.

Well one good thing about Japan getting it before us is we'll have a good choice of faceplates by the time we get it. I already expect I'll likely have to import a design I'd like as the UK will likely have a really limited selection of 3DS faceplates, I don't even think the Micro had them over here.

So based on my choice of faceplate I'll get the system that suits it best.
 

tanooki27

Member
imagine you're sitting on the subway and you have the small one. He looks across the aisle and you are playing the small one sporting that awesome wood grain cover.

how would he feel?

If it were me I'd whip out the big one and start stroking it. I'd make tentative eye contact with him and smile enigmatically.
 

javac

Member
I'm tempted to go white again like my DSi, but black would match my Wii U.

Well one good thing about Japan getting it before us is we'll have a good choice of faceplates by the time we get it. I already expect I'll likely have to import a design I'd like as the UK will likely have a really limited selection of 3DS faceplates, I don't even think the Micro had them over here.

So based on my choice of faceplate I'll get the system that suits it best.

Yeah I agree. I originally had an Aqua Blue 3DS at launch but swapped it for the Cosmos Black which I gave to my little brother. I currently have the all white 3DS XL that came with MK7. I have the Black Wii U but to be honest I don't care about that. I got both a Black and White Pro Controller and use the White one! I like the New Black 3DS but the colored buttons go better with White. First world problems eh? lol :p Guess like you said it depends on the covers. White seems to be better overall. Black looks more rubbery to me like the DSi...is that just me?

Also like I said, the LL doesn't have a clean back unlike the smaller model.


Blue LL looks Nice!.
 

Khaz

Member
Welcome to 2011. The 3DS has supported a full transfer since then. The account system is also quite old. Are you seriously saying you don't have a NNID?

Why getting a NNID when all it does is giving you access to Miiverse but barring you from ever moving to another state and using the local eShop? Besides, you don't need a NNID to transfer your stuff from one console to the other, or to have your digital stuff safe if you lose your console or something.
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
Welcome to 2011. The 3DS has supported a full transfer since then. The account system is also quite old. Are you seriously saying you don't have a NNID?
I do. So I can transfer everything between a new 3ds system? Am I they only one who didn't know this?

It's not locked to the system?
 

jts

...hate me...
They tried to made the regular sized 3DS cool so that the XL wouldn't make it irrelevant as it always did.

Mission accomplished.
 
I do. So I can transfer everything between a new 3ds system? Am I they only one who didn't know this?

It's not locked to the system?

No, but you need to have both systems on the same Wifi network to do the transfer. A lot of people are pissed about that because they want to trade in their old system to get a new one. I hand mine down so it doesn't bother me but it's a valid complaint.
 

jts

...hate me...
I do. So I can transfer everything between a new 3ds system? Am I they only one who didn't know this?

It's not locked to the system?

You've been a victim of general Nintendo FUD.

Nintendo stuff is locked to a specific hardware but never permanently locked. You can always get a new system and keep your stuff.
 

Zing

Banned
Why getting a NNID when all it does is giving you access to Miiverse but barring you from ever moving to another state and using the local eShop? Besides, you don't need a NNID to transfer your stuff from one console to the other, or to have your digital stuff safe if you lose your console or something.
You cannot download eshop demo versions without a NNID is another valid reason.

No, but you need to have both systems on the same Wifi network to do the transfer.
I don't believe this is technically true. The systems use local wireless during the transfer, which doesn't utilize any wifi access points at all. Of course, you do have to have Internet access at several points during the process, and be within about 30 feet of each other, so they will likely be on the same network, but theoretically, they could each be on their own wifi network. :D
 

ciD_Vain

Member
Sorry, I haven't been following this thread after the initial announcement. Is this system the successor handheld to the 3DS line or is it more like a small enhancement like DS -> DSi?
 
I don't believe this is technically true. The systems use local wireless during the transfer, which doesn't utilize any wifi access points at all. Of course, you do have to have Internet access at several points during the process, and be within about 30 feet of each other, so they will likely be on the same network, but theoretically, they could each be on their own wifi network. :D
:/

You need to have both systems on hand to do the transfer is I think what's critical for people to keep in mind. I hope that Nintendo is just holding back a traditional account system until they get everything perfectly in place (like cloud saving).

For all the bitching once they were done with the Wii OS it met all the requirements that people had for the system back in those days.
 

javac

Member
It says on the site (Google Translate):
Q: Is it possible to move the data and software from Nintendo 3DS / 3DS LL?
A: You can move to New Nintendo 3DS / New 3DS LL from Nintendo 3DS / 3DS LL.
(It is not possible to move the data to the Nintendo 3DS / 3DS LL from New Nintendo 3DS / New 3DS LL.)
So you can't transfer backwards? Is that normal?

Also:
Q: Do you support the settlement of using the Suica?
A: We consider the correspondence.

Q: Does the New 3DS no longer have a wireless switch that was on the Nintendo 3DS / 3DS LL?
A: Physical switch is no longer there, but you can turn the radio ON or OFF at any time from the HOME menu.

Also due to the New 3DS not accepting SD cards, there's extra steps to transfer between the two right? Bad translation aside:

Q: What should you do to prepare the move?
A: - It requires an environment where the Internet can communicate. (Both of communication between body and Internet connection (local communication) is also done)
• You must make sure that the battery is fully charged, and carried out while charging. (You can not transfer when the battery power is low)

(Only for Nintendo 3DS / 3DS LL → New Nintendo 3DS / New 3DS LL)

Due to the SD card of the Nintendo 3DS / 3DS LL, you are unable to insert it into the microSD card slot of the New Nintendo 3DS / New 3DS LL, the data must be moved to the microSD card.

How to move the data,

• You can be use any of the two options: Copy manually using the transfer and a computer using wireless communication (local communication) in the body to each other.

If you want to copy by using a personal computer, and SD card slot / microSD card slot of a personal computer, card reader / writer that supports SD card / microSD card, Phillips screwdriver for removing the battery cover (size: No. 1) is required .

I translated via Google and paraphrased a few sentences, but I didn't want to change too much since I don't want to mistranslate anything. Anything interesting here?
 

_Isaac

Member
I think the smaller 3ds looks better because of the buttons and the size, but I don't like the way the face plates look. That line looks a little gross.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Looks like they messed up the colours... there's no white LL, only Blue and Black (they actually have a pic of the White N3DS instead for the Black LL).

But anyway, damn it... those prices are so tempting... But with region-locking, it's pretty useless to me, especially as I've gone 100% digital with games. Now if I actually were fluent in Japanese...

In Japan is the LL aimed at old people? Maybe they don't want white.


Mayyybe when the XL comes out in the west they'll add faceplates and SNES buttons and a white model because they know it doesn't only sell to old people for brain training
 
It says on the site (Google Translate):

So you can't transfer backwards? Is that normal?

Also:




Also due to the New 3DS not accepting SD cards, there's extra steps to transfer between the two right? Bad translation aside:



I translated via Google and paraphrased a few sentences, but I didn't want to change too much since I don't want to mistranslate anything. Anything interesting here?

Yes there's extra steps to transfer your stuff. You'd do a full system transfer, take the original full SD card (which still has all the data), copy it's contents onto your computer, put in a microSD card (through an adapter) into your computer, copy the content onto that, then remove the microSD from the adapter and put it into your n3DS

A system transfer doesn't actually move content from SD card to SD card, it just moves stuff stored on the internal memory, and transfers the licenses for all content from the old system to the new one
 
The thing is it won't be £120 in the UK. Retailers will price it about £150-170, which is about the current 3DS XL price (regularly goes down to £120-130). I hope the charger is included.

Also, the 2DS goes down in price regularly to £70-80.

Yeah, I know it won't be that price - we always get screwed over with price - but if it doesn't include the charger it still isn't too bad.
Hopefully it will be £150, I kind of want one now.. but I will wait until the new models probably.. it isn't really worth getting one now is it? I mean, I want Smash, but I have a WiiU.

It would be stupid not to include a charger again, the majority of people buying the XL probably don't own the original, and if they did they'd likely have traded it in:/
 

javac

Member
Yes there's extra steps to transfer your stuff. You'd do a full system transfer, take the original full SD card (which still has all the data), copy it's contents onto your computer, put in a microSD card (through an adapter) into your computer, copy the content onto that, then remove the microSD from the adapter and put it into your n3DS

A system transfer doesn't actually move content from SD card to SD card, it just moves stuff stored on the internal memory, and transfers the licenses for all content from the old system to the new one

Ah thanks for that! That makes sense. I've done a few transfers back and fourth but never really understood what was going on outside of the obvious fact that Nintendo crammed a bunch of Pikmin in my system!
 
Hmm, just realized the stylus is on the bottom for both models.

I HATED having it on the top with the original 3DS because I could never accurately grab it when I wanted it in game.

But on the bottom I think it could work a little better than that.
 

Santiako

Member
Yeah, I know it won't be that price - we always get screwed over with price - but if it doesn't include the charger it still isn't too bad.
Hopefully it will be £150, I kind of want one now.. but I will wait until the new models probably.. it isn't really worth getting one now is it? I mean, I want Smash, but I have a WiiU.

It would be stupid not to include a charger again, the majority of people buying the XL probably don't own the original, and if they did they'd likely have traded it in:/

You can buy a charger for a couple of pounds, some stores give it for free with the console, it's not really a big deal.
 
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