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New Resident Evil: Revelations 2 Info (Claire, Barry's Daughter, 1080p/60FPS, co-op)
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Black Soma
Member
I think co-op is one of the reasons modern RE sells so well.
Miles Quaritch
Member
While I agree in principal, let's wait and see how it works before writing it off completely.
TGS is just around the corner.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
With Barry's daughter being involved its guaranteed to be him as the 3rd.
We gave them already like what, 3 chances?
It worked pretty well in the original revelaitons.
Asides from the parker flashbacks.
Lets see some gameplay first.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I hope so :3
ArkkAngel007
Member
While there may be some support to that, it may also come down to unfinished texture work as well. Something about the face, Claire Redfield or not, doesn't sit right with me and I could see it coming down to it being an unfinished product. Also have to take into account that these aren't fantastic scans either.
Personally I have a greater issue with the daughter of Barry Burton being thrown in and Claire once again seemingly being put in somewhat of a maternal role once again.
Can you prove that the group is small or just basing it off a ton of GAF impressions? I didn't particularly like the game (poor and isolated designs, issues with narrative, greatest departure yet), but it's a bit of a falsehood to just judge the reception in that manner. Tomb Raider 2013 was shit on a ton here, but it was a major player in GAF's 2013 GOTY thread, as was MGS4 in its time. COD is a giant franchise, but in general GAF is pretty harsh on it.
Thing is, we haven't seen anything about the game beyond the scans and screenshots-disguised-as-concept art to really say how anyone would feel about the game. I disliked RE6 and hated what I saw of Revelations outside of the first few missions, but I'm still keeping my eyes on this as a RE fan.
i kinda feel this way and i do wonder how many complaints are about how the 'young' part of claire's defining look being 'young, good looking redhead w/ ponytail and sharp facial features'
i sincerely doubt that she's going to keep a business suit for very long considering drab
black/white outfit in darker setting is generally bad game design in terms of visual acuity so i'm assuming she will have some red/white/black color themed outfit cuz its RE
also: for reference, chris is old as fuckk now
TheGreatDirector
Banned
You never know, the final playable character could be Steve for all we know.
Not really, the partner was useless and just killed the atmosphere.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Realism....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ofRM_v6X94 We hit the point of ridiculous by re3. These stories were never very good in terms of storytelling.
Leon was sent there specifically because he's an expert on dealing with that kind of thing.
Only Claire was there by accident.
Barry Burton
Member
"Co-op" means "dumbed-down design", which means there's no possible way this game could in any way be a "return to its roots".
Not giving up on this game altogether, but I won't be fooled into getting excited about it. It'll likely be another average game like the first Revelations.
Not giving up on this game altogether, but I won't be fooled into getting excited about it. It'll likely be another average game like the first Revelations.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Yea we all know co-op games can never have any depth oh wait...some of the best games of from the past generation are co-op. So in what world does co-op automatically=dumb downed design for games that we haven't even seen gameplay of? And it's not like resident evil is among some of the most complex games of all time.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I love RE6 so much I platinumed it. I think that Revelations is one of the top 4 best RE games. Not sure what you mean here.
I love 6 and REV. And I doubt the 6 lovers are a small group. I've seen plenty haha
Barry Burton
Member
Because everything has to be designed around the possibility that your partner is the lowest-common-denominator player. That eliminates any possibility of complex level design or puzzles. The single-player experience cannot be as good as it can possibly be, and like Resident Evil 5 and 6, the game starts with one hand tied behind its back.
That doesn't mean the game can't be good, but it is not possible for this game to be "return to its roots" in any fashion. Won't get fooled again.
Or they could just, you know, not make a game where you are forced to have a partner 99% of the game. Take on the darkness alone, like good horror games used to be like.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
I only really liked Chris' campaign because it knew exactly what it was and wanted to be.
I loved Rev1(my 4th favorite after RE1, REmake and RE5), so more like that will be great.
Co-op was needed in Rev1(you had an AI partner 99% of the game) so fixing that issue is a bonus.
Jawmuncher
Member
Coop was hardly the issue with the other games.
Lucent
Member
Moira looks really nice. I like her design. She kinda makes up for Rebecca not being here since she has a similar hairstyle and role.
Really looking forward to seeing how this plays in co-op. Would be crazy if the person playing Moira couldn't use guns for some strange reason and you just had to play support the whole time.
Really looking forward to seeing how this plays in co-op. Would be crazy if the person playing Moira couldn't use guns for some strange reason and you just had to play support the whole time.
ArkkAngel007
Member
No it doesn't and even if true is just as applicable to any game, co-op or single player only.
What might suffer is balance between what a single player faces in a situation designed with two players being taken into account for. Which come to think of it supports the opposite of your claim.
And for all intents and purposes, look up Resident Evil: Outbreak to see how off-base you are. The problem with these games isn't number of players.
Benjen=Daario=Moira=Rebecca?
I wouldn't be mad at this point
It would be interesting to see the result if that were the case, but I don't think Capcom would risk it.
The Praiseworthy
Member
I KNOW :\ !!!!!
They could at less make it like Dead Space 3... you know Capcom, "OPTIONAL" -___-"
So, the "legendary" Barry Burton has returned, huh? Or at least his daughter. But I'm pretty sure that Barry will appear one way or another. I'm so hyped for this game!
Anyway, we now know that RE:R2 will take place between RE5 and RE6. This means Rachael will not appear in RE:R2, since she died in the first RE:R. But then, who is that woman in the teaser?
When I first saw her, I thought she was Rachael.
Anyway, we now know that RE:R2 will take place between RE5 and RE6. This means Rachael will not appear in RE:R2, since she died in the first RE:R. But then, who is that woman in the teaser?
When I first saw her, I thought she was Rachael.
Barry Burton
Member
Have you played Resident Evil 5 and 6?
If so, why is it going to be different this time?
There's no reason anymore to give Capcom the benefit of the doubt.
EDIT: To be fair, the first Revelations was "Classic RE for dummies" and it was single-player, so I suppose co-op can't make it that much worse. Still, any hope of this game being an improvement over the average Revelations is slim.
I just feel bad for anyone who gets suckered by the "Return to its roots" comment for like, what now, the 4th straight game?
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
That's the thing is that no it doesn't. People can design a co-op game any way they like. Portal 2 wasn't designed with the lowest common denominator in mind. And with every horror game under the sun having you "face the darkness alone" horror games with co-op are the exception rather than the rule.
Jawmuncher
Member
The biggest thing is we haven't even seen gameplay.
The game is going to be playable at TGS. Don't think it's much to keep a little bit of a open mind when it comes to the coop.
Especially the way they describe the second player.
Which no one seems to be taking into account.
Would be different had the information said something along the lines of
"Barry's daughter as well being young is a weapons expert and uses nothing but heavy power".
Then I could understand the claims already building up.
ArkkAngel007
Member
Yes, and by and large the issues I had with those games had little, if anything, to do with the co-op.
And no, there isn't any reason to give them the benefit of the doubt. Dino Crisis 3, Gun Survivor 3 aka Dino Stalker, Resident Evil 5, Resident Evil Revelations, Resident Evil 6...all flawed games at best and offensive train wrecks at their worst. But I also believe in having support in my views, otherwise I'd be hating good games like Dead Rising 3 and Resident Evil 4 as well.
And none to do with co-op.
Barry Burton
Member
That is irrelevant. Capcom didn't make Portal 2. A company with a positive track record did.
RE5's entire dumbed-down level and game design revolved around the decision to be co-op. "Puzzles" are one character stands by a lever while the other one does, and then you flip them at the same time. And then you have the level design, which is a straight line, eliminating any possibility of exploration because, well, your partner may not want to do that. Even a linear game like RE4 gives you much more of a chance to go down different paths, backtrack a bit. RE5 is all about you (and by extension, your partner) constantly moving forward unabated.
Now play all of that single-player, as you'd want to play a supposed survival horror game. If it's designed for two players, it won't be as good for one, that's just common sense.
I found RE5 Co-op to be excellent. I don't think my friend and I have come close to such a great experience yet. Too bad they dumbed it down for RE6, we couldn't even bring ourselves to finish one campaign.
Isn't that kinda how singleplayer games are designed these days? We have a ton of games with extremely linear level design and really simple puzzle design. I don't think coop has anything to do with it.
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
The games are objectively more fun that way.
Bl@de
Member
I totally agree. As a fan of re0-cv I gave up on Resident Evil as a horror game after 5. I will be really surprised if it it ever has interesting level design and puzzles again.
Evil within seems more like a modern mix of re1+4 and i'm looking forward to that.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Capcom definitely has a positive track record. The gameplay of re5 is not bad. And re6 has a lot of depth aswell. But this is seemingly like re4+stealth elements and a playable Ashley.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Seems like thats where the inspiration talk was coming from. Well glad they picked a damn good game to get inspiration from.
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
I'm being completely honest here, classic RE is trash. I'll even go as far as to say the only reason they're so beloved is because there was no benchmark for scary tension back then. Today, there's just not a lot that can be done to freak players out so the focus is placed on the gameplay, i.e. where the games were most lacking.
Pre-RE4 love is nostalgia, period.
REmake disagrees with you.
Barry Burton
Member
If you ignore the past several years, then yeah, they are on a roll.
The design of both games is as shallow as a bird pool.
That's the thing. My point isn't that the co-op is bad. All I'm saying is that when co-op is your design focus, the single-player will inevitably suffer. That's just reality.
So wrong, in so many levels.
Resident Evil 1-3 had amazing gameplay and great puzzles.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Claire's new design is amazing.
