Support NeoGAF

[hiska-kun]

The blog again:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B004SSYQ1E/

100 x 30

We need a 0 more? One sales 30.000?

Edit: keep reading, it's 100g x 30

 

[zeromcd73]

The blog again:
100 x 30

We need a 0 more? One sales 30.000?

3000 units first week would be glorious.

 

[Aquamarine]

3000 units first week would be glorious.

I know right? Can you imagine?

It would be the worst console launch in...quite a while. Maybe the worst console launch of all time.

 

[Toemon]

I know right? Can you imagine?

It would be the worst console launch in...quite a while. Maybe the worst console launch of all time.

N-gage.

 

[Aquamarine]

N-gage.

I don't think the N-Gage ever launched in Japan.

But in the USA, the N-Gage sold 7,211 units in its launch month (October 2003).

Given the likelihood that the vast majority of those 7,211 launch units were front-loaded, Xbox One's 3,000 unit Japanese debut would actually be WORSE than the N-Gage's USA debut.

And that's saying something.

 

[zeromcd73]

I know right? Can you imagine?

It would be the worst console launch in...quite a while. Maybe the worst console launch of all time.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B004SSYQ1E/

It could actually happen which is the best part. If it was 30k, why not put 300 instead of 30 eel things?

 

[Celine]

I know right? Can you imagine?

It would be the worst console launch in...quite a while. Maybe the worst console launch of all time.

It would be the by far the worst as far as we know.
I believe that the lowest launches we have trace of are the NGP and NGPC ones which were between 18K and 24K.

 

[AniHawk]

I know right? Can you imagine?

It would be the worst console launch in...quite a while. Maybe the worst console launch of all time.

famitsu

xbox: 123,000 (first three days)
xbox 360: 62,135 (first two days)

the xbox 360 wound up doing enormously better than its predecessor. i mean, not great by any normal measure, but the growth was pretty big, and it even spawned the critically and commercially successful science adventure series. i don't think the xbox one will have the same pull.

 

[Mory Dunz]

so if the ps4 does a good i don't know, 5-6 million in japan (doubling dreamcast sales), and the wii u reaches 3m (dreamcast sales), what will the xbox one come in around?

the original xbox couldn't break 500k in japan, but the 360 did about 3-4 times the amount. i wonder if 2014 and 2015 will be the only years where it breaks 100k.

Unless you're joking....PS4 to double the Wii U?

Not saying it's impossible

Spoiler

sort of

but if so, it better get a move on...


EDIT:
Hm, some rough math.
To sell 6 mill in 7 years, it would need to sell and average of 14,600/week starting right now.

Actually, if things pick up, I guess that's not impossible over the long run. But still.

 

[AniHawk]

Unless you're joking....PS4 to double the Wii U?

Not saying it's impossible

Spoiler

sort of

but if so, it better get a move on...

ps4 is getting two final fantasies and at least one if not more dragon quests. it's getting metal gear solid and kingdom hearts. these are the last of the major japanese franchises that aren't made by nintendo (or aren't on mobile), and most of them sell a million units on consoles. or at least they used to.

i'm basically giving it a huge benefit of the doubt, especially as the remaining developers circle the wagons (atlus, nis, koei tecmo, etc)

 

[Toemon]

I know right? Can you imagine?

It would be the worst console launch in...quite a while. Maybe the worst console launch of all time.

Not sure if comparing to a month works.

But as for Japan, Nokia did a limited release do to horrible preorders. I may be off but I recall like 800. The delay also helped with it selling bad, but it died in like 2 weeks everywhere else so it probably did not matter.

If they released the QD model first maayybbeee...

 

[RalchAC]

famitsu

xbox: 123,000 (first three days)
xbox 360: 62,135 (first two days)

the xbox 360 wound up doing enormously better than its predecessor. i mean, not great by any normal measure, but the growth was pretty big, and it even spawned the critically and commercially successful science adventure series. i don't think the xbox one will have the same pull.

What if we predict which will sell more this year? VitaTV, PSP or Xbox One?

 

[BishopLamont]

xbone should sell at least 30k, its not gonna be something pitiful like 3k.

 

[Aostia]

if anything, I'm pretty sure it will be around 30k.

 

[Deleted member 125677]

As hilarious as it would be, it's not going to be 3k, but rather around 30k. Anything else would be insanity

 

[AniHawk]

What if we predict which will sell more this year? VitaTV, PSP or Xbox One?

my guess:

psp > 100k > xbox one > ps vita tv = 75k

 

[zeromcd73]

awww shit. From the famitsu leaker:

Q: What about DQ11?
Horii: First we want you to play Dragon Quest He..

Horri cuts himself off at the end. DQ11 PS4 hype!!!!

 

[L~A]

As hilarious as it would be, it's not going to be 3k, but rather around 30k. Anything else would be insanity

Yeah, I don't think it's possible. Even the Vita TV didn't do nearly as bad.

 

[cafemomo]

awww shit. From the famitsu leaker:


Horri cuts himself off at the end. DQ11 PS4 hype!!!!

why yes, everyone should play Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

awww shit. From the famitsu leaker:


Horri cuts himself off at the end. DQ11 PS4 hype!!!!

Do iiiiiiiiit Hori.

 

[RalchAC]

my guess:

psp > 100k > xbox one > ps vita tv = 75k

I'm going with PSP (100k) > X1 = VitaTV (80k)

The Vita Tv is going to beast this holidays. It may do >2k in the busiest weeks of the year!

 

[michaelius]

so if the ps4 does a good i don't know, 5-6 million in japan (doubling dreamcast sales), and the wii u reaches 3m (dreamcast sales), what will the xbox one come in around?

the original xbox couldn't break 500k in japan, but the 360 did about 3-4 times the amount. i wonder if 2014 and 2015 will be the only years where it breaks 100k.

It won't break 100k in 2014. Too little time not enough games.

It probably won't even reach orginal box sales in Japan as that had clean start for a brand while One comes after two failed consoles.


Hmm in Japan wouldn't it be more natural to write 3x10k if it sold 30k ?

 

[hiska-kun]

Now i get it:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B004SSYQ1E/

100g x30
1009 x30 => 30.270

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Now i get it:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B004SSYQ1E/

100g x30
1009 x30 => 30.270

XB1 launch sales?

 

[L~A]

Now i get it:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B004SSYQ1E/

100g x30
1009 x30 => 30.270

Sounds about right for the XB1.

 

[crinale]

Now i get it:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B004SSYQ1E/

100g x30
1009 x30 => 30.270

And he just posted the actual number went below it.

 

[Aquamarine]

XB1 launch sales?

100g x 30 was a leaked hint for Xbox One sales given by our super secret Japanese sales blog.

 

[Rymuth]

Now i get it:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B004SSYQ1E/

100g x30
1009 x30 => 30.270

If that's true, they cleared 30k by the skin of their teeth.

 

[AniHawk]

100g x 30 was a leaked hint for Xbox One sales given by our super secret Japanese sales blog.

OUR SUPER SECRET JAPANESE SALES BLOG YOU SAY?

 

[Aquamarine]

OUR SUPER SECRET JAPANESE SALES BLOG YOU SAY?

YES BUT IT'S SUPER SECRET SO DON'T TELL ANYONE

 

[Aostia]

so, it's pretty clear that PS4 x 3 = PS12 = DQ12 PS4 exclusive within 3 year.
Am I reading the leaks right?

 

[Nibel]

3000 would be the worst console launch of all time, right?

 

[benny_a]

3000 would be the worst console launch of all time, right?

Taken from Chris1964, only added the PS4 number.

Famitsu home console openings

1998.11.27 [Sega Dreamcast] (¥29.800) - 101.490 (3 days)
2000.03.04 [Sony PlayStation 2] (¥39.800) - 630.552 (2 days)
2001.09.14 [Nintendo GameCube] (¥25.000) - 133.719 (3 days)
2002.02.22 [Microsoft XBox] (¥34.800) - 123.929 (3 days)
2005.12.10 [Microsoft XBox 360] (¥29.000 / ¥39.795) - 62.135 (2 days)
2006.11.11 [Sony PlayStation 3] (¥49.980 / ¥59.980) - 88.443 (2 days)
2006.12.02 [Nintendo Wii] (¥25.000) - 371.936 (2 days)
2012.12.08 [Nintendo Wii U] (¥26.250 / ¥31.500) - 308.570 (2 days)
2014.02.22 [Sony PlayStation 4] (¥41.979 / ¥46.179)- 322.083 (2 days)

 

[Chris1964]

Taken from Chris1964, only added the PS4 number.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=127732926&postcount=509

 

[Aostia]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=127732926&postcount=509

It could still be masked as higher than these

1989.04.21 [Nintendo GameBoy] (¥12.500) - unknown (3 days)
1990.10.06 [Sega GameGear] (¥19.800) - unknown (2 days)
1995.07.21 [Nintendo VirtualBoy] (¥15.000) - unknown (3 days)
1996.07.21 [Nintendo GameBoyPocket] (¥6.800) - unknown (1 day)
1998.04.14 [Nintendo GameBoyLight] (¥6.800) - unknown (4 days)

;p

 

[michaelius]

What about WonderSwan ?

 

[Celine]

What about WonderSwan ?

Too high WS/C was a moderate success in Japan (copy&paste)
As I've already said NGP/C is what Xbone should aim to beat lol

Famitsu openings

handhelds

1989.04.21 [Nintendo GameBoy] (¥12.500) - unknown (3 days)
1990.10.06 [Sega GameGear] (¥19.800) - unknown (2 days)
1995.07.21 [Nintendo VirtualBoy] (¥15.000) - unknown (3 days)
1996.07.21 [Nintendo GameBoyPocket] (¥6.800) - unknown (1 day)
1998.04.14 [Nintendo GameBoyLight] (¥6.800) - unknown (4 days)
1998.10.21 [Nintendo GameBoyColor] (¥8.900) - 155.774 (5 days)
1998.10.28 [SNK NeoGeoPocket] (¥7.800) - 21.471 (5 days)
1999.03.04 [Bandai WonderSwan] (¥4.800) - 102.655 (4 days)
1999.03.19 [SNK NeoGeoPocketColor] (¥8.900) - 18.809 (3 days)
2000.12.09 [Bandai WonderSwanColor] (¥6.800) - 145.975 (2 days)
2001.03.21 [Nintendo GameBoyAdvance] (¥9.800) - 611.504 [5 days]
2002.07.12 [Bandai SwanCrystal] (¥7.800) - 30.692 (3 days)
2003.02.14 [Nintendo GameBoyAdvance SP] (¥12.500) - 117.859 (3 days)
2004.12.02 [Nintendo DS] (¥15.000) - 441.485 (4 days)
2004.12.12 [Sony PlayStation Portable] (¥19.800 / ¥24.800) - 166.074 (1 day)
2005.09.13 [Nintendo GameBoyMicro] (¥12.000) - 148.117 (4 days)
2006.03.02 [Nintendo DS Lite] (¥16.800) - 67.653 (4 days)
2007.09.20 [Sony PlayStation Portable-2000] (¥19.800) - 263.538 (4 days)
2008.10.16 [Sony PlayStation Portable-3000] (¥19.800) - 155.720 (4 days)
2008.11.01 [Nintendo DSi] (¥18.900) - 170.779 (2 days)
2009.11.01 [Sony PlayStation Portable Go] (¥17.800) - 28.275 (1 day)
2009.11.21 [Nintendo DSi LL] (¥20.000) - 103.524 (2 days)
2011.02.26 [Nintendo 3DS] (¥25.000) - 371.326 (2 days)
2011.12.17 [Sony PlayStation Vita] (¥24.980 / ¥29.980) - 321.407 (2 days)
2012.07.28 [Nintendo 3DS LL] (¥18.900) - 193.441 (2 days)
2013.10.12 [Sony PlayStation Vita-2000] (¥19.929) < 58.682 (4 days)
2013.11.14 [Sony PlayStation Vita TV] (¥9.954 / ¥14.994) - 40.225 (4 days)


home consoles

1998.11.27 [Sega Dreamcast] (¥29.800) - 101.490 (3 days)
2000.03.04 [Sony PlayStation 2] (¥39.800) - 630.552 (2 days)
2001.09.14 [Nintendo GameCube] (¥25.000) - 133.719 (3 days)
2002.02.22 [Microsoft XBox] (¥34.800) - 123.929 (3 days)
2005.12.10 [Microsoft XBox 360] (¥29.000 / ¥39.795) - 62.135 (2 days)
2006.11.11 [Sony PlayStation 3] (¥49.980 / ¥59.980) - 88.443 (2 days)
2006.12.02 [Nintendo Wii] (¥25.000) - 371.936 (2 days)
2012.12.08 [Nintendo Wii U] (¥26.250 / ¥31.500) - 308.570 (2 days)
2014.02.22 [Sony PlayStation 4] (¥41.979 / ¥46.179)- 322.083 (2 days)
2014.09.04 [Microsoft XBox One] (¥43.178 / ¥53.978) - xx.xxx (4 days)

 

[L~A]

Famitsu preview is up... no trace of that mysterious big Capcom game.

Magazine got new stuff on:

- Bio Revelations 2
- MH4G
- Dai Gyakuten Saiban
- Deep Down

Famitsu

 

[crinale]

Famitsu preview is up... no trace of that mysterious big Capcom game.

Magazine got new stuff on:

- Bio Revelations 2
- MH4G
- Dai Gyakuten Saiban
- Deep Down

Famitsu

IIRC Famitsu teased new info, not new game, of Capcom.

 

[duckroll]

They teased "news scoops" for "new title(s)". Anything unreleased is a new title, and anything that they haven't printed before is a scoop! *cough*

 

[random25]

Famitsu preview is up... no trace of that mysterious big Capcom game.

Magazine got new stuff on:

- Bio Revelations 2
- MH4G
- Dai Gyakuten Saiban
- Deep Down

Famitsu

Welp. Guess I expected much

Can't wait for more Dai Gyakuten Saiban info. I wonder if they'll show Sherlock and 8yo Watson.

 

[Moor-Angol]

Hmm in Japan wouldn't it be more natural to write 3x10k if it sold 30k ?

yes it is, because they like to be different from the rest of the world

our multiplier is x1,000 based, in Japan is x10,000; after 1,000,000 becomes complicated to understand how they are counting (or at least for me)

 

[Pooya]

All them scoops are saved for that one last issue before tgs. It is known.

I miss those days, lol

 

[Ty4on]

YES BUT IT'S SUPER SECRET SO DON'T TELL ANYONE

I'll just tweet it. Don't worry, no one follows me

30k for XB1? Good for my older predictions I guess, but that software ratio looks horrendous now.

 

[MrCookiepants]

ps4 is getting two final fantasies and at least one if not more dragon quests. it's getting metal gear solid and kingdom hearts. these are the last of the major japanese franchises that aren't made by nintendo (or aren't on mobile), and most of them sell a million units on consoles. or at least they used to.

i'm basically giving it a huge benefit of the doubt, especially as the remaining developers circle the wagons (atlus, nis, koei tecmo, etc)

Resident Evil is still a big seller too (though I'm not sure how much RE6 damaged the brand).

 

[dolemite]

30k would be a decent enough number for XBone that noone would get fired right away.

 

[mao2]

Now i get it:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B004SSYQ1E/

100g x30
1009 x30 => 30.270

I think his hint is the name of the item.

&#12373;&#12435;&#12414; &#8594; &#12373;&#12435;&#12414;&#12435; = 30,000

 

[hongcha]

2002.02.22 [Microsoft XBox] (¥34.800) - 123.929 (3 days)
2005.12.10 [Microsoft XBox 360] (¥29.000 / ¥39.795) - 62.135 (2 days)

So if Xbox One is 30K, Microsoft is losing 50% of first-week buyers every launch.

 

[michaelius]

2002.02.22 [Microsoft XBox] (¥34.800) - 123.929 (3 days)
2005.12.10 [Microsoft XBox 360] (¥29.000 / ¥39.795) - 62.135 (2 days)

So if Xbox One is 30K, Microsoft is losing 50% of first-week buyers every launch.

With first xbox they didn't know what to expect

 

[Foshy]

I think his hint is the name of the item.

&#12373;&#12435;&#12414; &#8594; &#12373;&#12435;&#12414;&#12435; = 30,000

What if it's the price? lol