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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS |OT| It's out in Japan

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Well...there's this.

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If the real tier list is anything like this, I'm going to laugh.

Buffs all across the board, and the LoZ characters still can't catch a break.
 
How the fuck do some of you have so much time in the demo? I just checked and I have 2:29.

It's 5 characters on one stage, and you can't even up the time from 2 minutes or do stock. Aka it's boring as hell once you've had a little play around with each character.
 

FSLink

Banned
Okay then, my somewhat out-there predictions:


I'll check this in 1 year and it'll probably be nothing like this :p

Mine would probably be pretty similar if I were to make a more full list like yours.

I'm guessing Robin is probably high, would probably be top if it weren't for the tome/Levin Sword depleting mechanic, I think people will learn to take advantage of the down time as the metagame develops.

I think Zelda's probably somewhere in the middle and not bottom but again just a prediction.
 

Fireblend

Banned
How the fuck do some of you have so much time in the demo? I just checked and I have 2:29.

It's 5 characters on one stage, and you can't even up the time from 2 minutes or so stock. Aka it's boring as hell once you've had a little play around with each character.

Multiplayer with my brother/gf/guys at work, mostly. Plus the level 9 CPUs are actually decent.
 

Pancakes

hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
How the fuck do some of you have so much time in the demo? I just checked and I have 2:29.

It's 5 characters on one stage, and you can't even up the time from 2 minutes or so stock. Aka it's boring as hell once you've had a little play around with each character.

Playing FFA with friends and items can be great derpy fun for quite a long time. Provided your friends aren't ragebabies.
 
How the fuck do some of you have so much time in the demo? I just checked and I have 2:29.

It's 5 characters on one stage, and you can't even up the time from 2 minutes or so stock. Aka it's boring as hell once you've had a little play around with each character.

you can't deny the smash thirst man
 

Cody_D165

Banned
How the fuck do some of you have so much time in the demo? I just checked and I have 2:29.

It's 5 characters on one stage, and you can't even up the time from 2 minutes or so stock. Aka it's boring as hell once you've had a little play around with each character.

Basically just getting acquainted with the engine and how each character feels, new ledge mechanics, etc. "comboing" CPUs around. Once the main game comes out I've no doubt I'll pour hundreds of hours into it, especially if the online functions well for me.
 

Josephl64

Member
If only Love Plus games were actually localized, all of my time would be dedicated to them.

Cool :)

2/3
ఠ_ఠ but FE is basically Love Plus...with swords and magic.

Only the latest one, but I can't say I liked how supports were done in Awakening not that it was bad. Then again it's the most minor prob I have with it. Main probs being map/battle diversity like fog of war and the such.

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

:'(
 

Crayolan

Member
How the fuck do some of you have so much time in the demo? I just checked and I have 2:29.

It's 5 characters on one stage, and you can't even up the time from 2 minutes or do stock. Aka it's boring as hell once you've had a little play around with each character.

If you haven't spent over 5 hours on Villager alone you're doing something wrong.

Mine would probably be pretty similar if I were to make a more full list like yours.

I'm guessing Robin is probably high, would probably be top if it weren't for the tome/Levin Sword depleting mechanic, I think people will learn to take advantage of the down time as the metagame develops.

I think Zelda's probably somewhere in the middle and not bottom but again just a prediction.

I considered putting Robin up there since he looks good, but I didn't want to have too many characters in a single tier (though I do feel there will be fewer tiers and more characters in each tier in this game).

Zelda, I dunno. Hard to guess who will turn out to be the worst.
 

Dreavus

Member
Hey guys, has anyone found out if we can customize the timers in Smash Run?

I was checking out a video of it and the 1:00 minute competition at the end seems waaaaaaay too short.
 
Play Time: 36:06 [3rd]
Times Played: 15
Average Play Time: 2:25 [3rd]
First Played: 9/12/2014
Last Played: 9/25/2014

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Honestly, I'm not even bored with the demo at all. The reason I put so much hours in is because I wanted to test out every character to the fullest. Seeing how much damage a move does, combo ability, getting a feel of the characters. Trying out everything that's new to Smash 4. This is keeping me company till the gane finally releases.

I know i'll get so many damn hours put in, especially with I have in Brawl. And that's... Well.. Yeah. Haha.
 
How the fuck do some of you have so much time in the demo? I just checked and I have 2:29.

It's 5 characters on one stage, and you can't even up the time from 2 minutes or do stock. Aka it's boring as hell once you've had a little play around with each character.

I've been practicing with villager against level 9's and real people a shitload so that when the full game comes out I wont get my butt kicked in online
 
How the fuck do some of you have so much time in the demo? I just checked and I have 2:29.

It's 5 characters on one stage, and you can't even up the time from 2 minutes or do stock. Aka it's boring as hell once you've had a little play around with each character.
I pretty much play every day for an average of 1-2 hours. Beating up the same 5 characters somehow doesn't get old for me.
 
Multiplayer with my brother/gf/guys at work, mostly. Plus the level 9 CPUs are actually decent.

Playing FFA with friends and items can be great derpy fun for quite a long time. Provided your friends aren't ragebabies.

Yeah well none of my friends really have 3DS's. Partly why I'm more wanting the Wii U version so I can play local multiplayer.

Basically just getting acquainted with the engine and how each character feels, new ledge mechanics, etc. "comboing" CPUs around. Once the main game comes out I've no doubt I'll pour hundreds of hours into it, especially if the online functions well for me.

I've played 15 hours on just level nines. Figuring out the new mechanics and such.

Or maybe I'm just not hardcore enough :p

Smash has always been a casual series for me where the in depth mechanics are just irrelevant.
 

DaBoss

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Spent 30 hours on mine:
- 24 hours of it was just me in a 1v1 Omega Battlefield either trying stuff out or battling lvl9 or lvl1 CPUs with every character.
- The rest was just 1v1 or FFAs with 3 CPUs with items on. There's such a wide array of items/PokeBalls/Assist Trophies and I wanted to try out as much as I can.

Not near the top 3 of any of the 3 ranking categories lol.
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I still don't get why people are so adamant on making or having tier lists early. Saying a character is good/bad early is one thing. Ranking characters with barely any match-up data is another.
 

Brqan

Member
So im im seeing these tier list and seeing Shulk near the top, is there something I missed because I haven't even seen any matches with Shulk?
 

FSLink

Banned
Or maybe I'm just not hardcore enough :p

Smash has always been a casual series for me where the in depth mechanics are just irrelevant.

Maybe not, and that's fine. I'm personally more into the in depth stuff so I spent a lot of time in the demo trying to practice meteor smashes on Lv1 CPUs, testing out combos with Lv9s, etc.

I still don't get why people are so adamant on making or having tier lists early. Saying a character is good/bad early is one thing. Ranking characters with barely any match-up data is another.

It's fun and not that serious. As long as people understand it's not even a ranking at this point, it's just prediction. Won't have actual really really early tier lists until several months later.

So im im seeing these tier list and seeing Shulk near the top, is there something I missed because I haven't even seen any matches with Shulk?

You missed that they're just predictions, there hasn't been any good Shulk play yet.
 

Fireblend

Banned
Yeah well none of my friends really have 3DS's. Partly why I'm more wanting the Wii U version so I can play local multiplayer.

Smash without friends wouldn't really be worth it for me. If I didn't have a solid group of 3DS-owning friends, I probably wouldn't be bothering with the 3DS version at all, honestly. Online is cool and all, but local multiplayer just can't be beat.
 

emb

Member
I still don't get why people are so adamant on making or having tier lists early. Saying a character is good/bad early is one thing. Ranking characters with barely any match-up data is another.
I still don't get why people are so adamantly opposed to it. No one is making it with any intention of being correct, just whatever guesses they can come up with.

I guess I could see the argument that it could stifle development of less straightforward characters. I don't think most people are dumb enough to look at a tier list, then never put any time into other characters though...
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
You're just making predictions, not making an actual tier list. I'm talking about those people who want serious tier lists or want to make serious tier lists early.

It's normal cycle for all new fighting games. Many people are trying to make early tier list for some reason, I guess they want to says, I CALLED IT FIRST or something like that. I'm pretty much used to it.
 

FSLink

Banned
You're just making predictions, not making an actual tier list. I'm talking about those people who want serious tier lists or want to make serious tier lists early.

Yeah those people don't understand what tiers are and just want a "HEY WHO'S GOOD IN THIS GAME AND WHO'S GARBAGE" and don't understand that it takes awhile to figure that shit out. They're also not usually the people that tier lists would even apply to.

This list makes no sense. No way Bowser and Little Mac are in S tier. No way Falcon is better than Mario. No way Mega Man isn't in E tier.

Megaman is definitely not bad. :p I do think at the end of everything he might end up being near the bottom just relative to the other characters though. I agree with the rest of your points though...at this point at the game's very early life, I don't think Bowser/Little Mac are that high up.
 

Crocodile

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When people make tier lists, they know tier S and above is reserved for actually degenerate characters with positive match-ups across the board right and isn't a synonym for "really good" right?

On a side note I think Wii Fit Trainer is the only character I've NEVER seen on stream. Do people not like her? Is she not fun to play with? Mega Man-esque awkward? Especially bad?
 

Pancakes

hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
This list makes no sense. No way Bowser and Little Mac are in S tier. No way Falcon is better than Mario. No way Mega Man isn't in E tier.

This was made by 4chan awhile ago. It's not meant to be taken seriously.
 
Also, if I went into the in depth mechanics, when my friends came over to play I'd completely annihilate them and I'd be 'that guy'.

Hence why I'd rather remain oblivious ;D
 

Crayolan

Member
So im im seeing these tier list and seeing Shulk near the top, is there something I missed because I haven't even seen any matches with Shulk?

That's exactly why!

Seriously though, it's because I'm pretty sure there's a lot of untapped potential with Shulk. Like you said, not many people have put him to use and once someone does we may start to see a lot of interesting things come out of him. At the very least, I know I'm gonna use him a lot.

This list makes no sense. No way Bowser and Little Mac are in S tier. No way Falcon is better than Mario. No way Mega Man isn't in E tier.

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tier?
 
People just want to know tiers, just so they can have that feel of who the best character is in the game and proceed to use them.

Also, I can't wait to explore all the characters in the game. :)
 
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