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Sunset Overdrive runs at 30 fps/900p

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One4U

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This tread is funny to read. I noticed that some people who never intend to buy a Xbox One even care more about X1 resolution/frame rate than Xbox gamers.

Such weird~!!

Sunset Overdrive, DAY ONE!!!
 

p3tran

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Serious question; is 900p And 1080p that big of a difference on a 1080p TV from a proper viewing distance? I feel like a dipshit asking but seems like it doesn't matter a whole lot.

dude, ryse is 900p in the pipeline, and still is the most jaw-dropping game you can get and play.

this entire talk is bullshit, has been bullshit for months....
 

p3tran

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one would think being at 1600x900 would at least afford the game a higher fps than 30.
you wont be playing it, so why do you care?

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but to entertain your concerned troll statement,
one would also think that the strongest sony first party game would be better than declaring 60hz, then skipping half the resolution and still not getting them 60hz..
you know, things happen....
 

nib95

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There's some major battle going on in here lol. Microsoft this, well Sony that, well no but Microsoft that, but Sony also with that!
 
I think that for both Xbox One and PS4 the problem could not be the graphics and people could not care about it but since both Sony and Microsoft are stupid as fuck they used the "wow such graphics" argument too much. Next gen was all about graphics for them so they just deserve all the backslash they have.

I personally almost never buying a game depending on its graphics (different from art direction or creativity) but since most of Xbox One and PS4 games are remakes, ports or cross gen games I was looking at graphics so I could make my decision. Also when you push AAA copy / pasted games you're just forgetting what makes video games so good and fun in the first place.

So Sunset Overdrive was a game I was looking forward, I'm kind of disappointed to see that devs can't do better as for now with the system but again it's because Xbox One was said to be a system capable of incredible graphics (sorry but DK : TF on Wii U is my actual gen most beautiful game) and my biggest disappointment is the essence of the game. I have yet to play it but it looks like the game's pace is too slow for this genre imo and it also doesn't seem that fun at the end (only basing my opinion on gameplay videos so it'll change eventually).

For those who want to talk about graphics and only about graphics just think that the game is only available on Xbox One so what's the point of making speculations about what PS4 could have offered. 30 fps/900p is ok (lack of 60 fps is what bothers me the most) so if the game is good just buy it and enjoy. Bashers can cry or laugh all they want, they won't have the chance to play it.
 

GavinGT

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There are people in this thread who have had this exact same discussion two dozen times already regarding different games. Doesn't this ever get tiring?
 

ILoveBish

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ok, I'm bored with this shit....


you know what? WHO CARES?
last generation, THE RULE was that ps3 got the inferior and/or broken ports of practically EVERY SINGLE GAME,
yet a lot of ps3 owners seemed quite happy. no?

this generation, again I have both consoles since day 1, and I still have not seen a broken port like I did on ps3.

but a handful of guys still bang the same drum.

well, keep on banging it, just be sure to notice that what sony has declared to be the most important game for them from fall 'till next year, really has no advantage (gfx or whatever you like) on ps4. (if that means anything to your syllogism)

lets discuss instead about all the games that xbone has that ps4 ...doesnt. (wow, sunset overdrive is one of them! who;d have guessed??! :D )
bottom line, it makes more sense than this stuff

Thanks for coming into a thread about a games native resolution and frame rate, and telling everyone who cares.
 

derFeef

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A nice, lively thread. Not as big as the first time we talked about this yet, but bigger than the second time. I guess the interest in Sunset Overdrive is on the rise again. Good.

I thought this thread was closed, but I was wrong. anyways, the salt in this thread is incredible

There are people in this thread who have had this exact same discussion two dozen times already. Doesn't this ever get tiring?

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p3tran

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There are people in this thread who have had this exact same discussion two dozen times already. Doesn't this ever get tiring?

well, if one likes the games but hates the console, and he likes to keep himself ...involved, not many paths available for him, are there?

Thanks for coming into a thread about a games native resolution and frame rate, and telling everyone who cares.

its not the first, second or third time this discussion is happening.
even a blind person can see whats going on...

but please continue, tell us your concerns
 

demolitio

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dude, ryse is 900p in the pipeline, and still is the most jaw-dropping game you can get and play.

this entire talk is bullshit, has been bullshit for months....

Your subjective response didn't answer his question and it's not a bullshit talk just because you apparently can't see a difference.

Do I get mad each time an X1 game is 900p? No, because it's expected at this point for a lot of games and it doesn't mean a game looks bad by any means. But I can see a difference quite clearly (just like I always go for native resolution in PC games) and a lot of other people can as well.

Just look at AC: Black Flag's comparison shots before and post-patch on PS4.

It's not bullshit just because you find a 900p game the best looking game out there because it'd look better at native resolution. Once again, not saying it makes a game ugly and negates all other technological advancements, but you didn't really answer his question just because Ryse looks good.

This whole thing is absurd though. It's good to have this information but it shouldn't erupt into the same war over and over again each time we find this out. Nothing will change. I remember going through this last-gen when this information was useful for multi-platforms for sure. Play where you want to play, enjoy good games and good exclusives, buy the multi-platform games where you want to knowing one console should run better all things considered but that doesn't mean everything to everyone. So just play where you want to and get over the resolution wars.

It's disappointing each time I see a game less than 1080p on consoles, but it's something I'll have to get used to again evidently. Just because it won't bother me on SOME games doesn't mean there's no difference between the two and all talk is bullshit. A lot of it is fanboy wars of course, but that happened last-gen too with the roles reversed.
 

Jobbs

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okay with this! game looks great, 900p is fine. no one thought ryse looked like a blurry mess -- nothing to see here, move on.
 

p3tran

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Your subjective response didn't answer his question and it's not a bullshit talk just because you apparently can't see a difference.

Do I get mad each time an X1 game is 900p?
........
It's not bullshit just because you find a 900p game the best looking game out there because it'd look better at native resolution.

my subjective response is right on the money on the question if a game rendered internally at 1600x900 is destined to look bad.
your interpretation of my response sucks

I dont know if you get mad. you have an xbone?

and while ryse could look better if it was rendered in exactly the same way but at a higher resolution, ryse itself was the prime example that dropping the render pipeline resolution in order to add more render detail, is something that indeed pays off.
funny how you missed that part about ryse... it looked worse at a higher resolution but with less processing going on. remember the articles? you do. but please continue telling us the utmost importance of pixel count....
 
BRB, making a public announcement thread about how Driveclub/Horizon 2 is only 30fps.

It's been known about for a while and it's been discussed to death, by everyone, 100'times over, but those threads died so I need to keep the narrative going with a new thread so that the same people who argued in the last two threads about exactly the same topic can argue about the exact same things with the exact same people they know they're not going to win any arguments against anyway,

Need to keep that fire nice and warm, know what I mean?
 
ok, I'm bored with this shit....


you know what? WHO CARES?
last generation, THE RULE was that ps3 got the inferior and/or broken ports of practically EVERY SINGLE GAME,
yet a lot of ps3 owners seemed quite happy. no?

this generation, again I have both consoles since day 1, and I still have not seen a broken port like I did on ps3.

but a handful of guys still bang the same drum.

well, keep on banging it, just be sure to notice that what sony has declared to be the most important game for them from fall 'till next year, really has no advantage (gfx or whatever you like) on ps4. (if that means anything to your syllogism)

lets discuss instead about all the games that xbone has that ps4 ...doesnt. (wow, sunset overdrive is one of them! who;d have guessed??! :D )
bottom line, it makes more sense than this stuff




This console gen is going to be long and stressful for you, isn't it?
 

demolitio

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my subjective response is right on the money on the question if a game rendered internally at 1600x900 is destined to look bad.
your interpretation of my response sucks

I dont know if you get mad. you have an xbone?

and while ryse could look better if it was rendered in exactly the same way but at a higher resolution, ryse itself was the prime example that dropping the render pipeline resolution in order to add more render detail, is something that indeed pays off.
funny how you missed that part about ryse... it looked worse at a higher resolution but with less processing going on. remember the articles? you do. but please continue telling us the utmost importance of pixel count....

I find your post ironic saying my interpretation sucks when you intentionally misconstrued the question Drifters asked. But keep on your rant about how everyone else is stupid when I didn't even debate whether higher resolution is better than more effects rather than higher resolution IS noticeable like the original question.

I don't know where you got the rest out of your rage. I didn't say I preferred Ryse to look worse at 1080p, just that it WOULD and WILL look better at 1080p which is the question at-hand. I'm not asking for games to drop to "low" settings for 1080p, just that I prefer to hit native resolution when I play PC games because there is a difference and it's a compromise of other settings if need-be.

That had nothing to do with Ryse or any other rant you want to attribute to me by just saying you avoided his question with an opinion. 1080p looks better than 900p and it's noticeable to most people as seen by some console games that have been patched from 900p to 1080p.

I didn't miss any part, especially the argumentative tone intentionally looking for a debate that isn't even there, but that is of no relevance to the question that had nothing to do with Ryse. Of course using all your resources for 1080p isn't wise but is that in his question or is his question about whether or not 1080p is a noticeable upgrade from 900p?

This whole thing is ridiculous. As I said before, it's to be expected on some games so it's not a huge issue but there IS a difference and I WOULD prefer 1080p. That doesn't mean I want to sacrifice all other settings either as we should realize it's not going to feasible for a lot of games on X1 and some on the PS4 in the future. I'll take 900p games, but that doesn't mean I don't prefer 1080p nor does it change my answer to the question you answered with a non-answer citing an example that doesn't even portray the differences.

The fact that this makes people so enraged is sad. Resolution thread talking about resolutions!?!?!? Stay out if that's an issue. It will be a good game regardless if the gameplay is good. Others find this stuff informative (especially multi-platform games) although this one was known for a while. Is there more fanboy talk because this is an exclusive? Sure, but that goes both ways as proven by your comments.
 

Vestax

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Serious question; is 900p And 1080p that big of a difference on a 1080p TV from a proper viewing distance? I feel like a dipshit asking but seems like it doesn't matter a whole lot.

I can tell the difference on my 52" plasma. This was very obvious when I played PvZ on the XB1 and the PS4. It's definitely smoother on the PS4.

Titanfall sold over 3 million times, 2 million on xbox one and 1 million combined on pc and 360. So I guess thats an excellent number for a game that was released a half year after the launch of the One

Wow, insider information? I didn't know, I gotta say not bad numbers. I fell for this myself, one of my main motivators for a n XB1 was Titanfall. Now if they can fix the IMC Rising DLC pricing problem for season pass holders, damn it people.
 

p3tran

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I didn't miss any part, especially the argumentative tone intentionally looking for a debate that isn't even there, but that is of no relevance to the question that had nothing to do with Ryse. Of course using all your resources for 1080p isn't wise but is that in his question or is his question about whether or not 1080p is a noticeable upgrade from 900p?

I use ryse as an example, because it fits the situation very nicely, and has been very well documented too.

and you do miss a part, the one where we are talking about fixed technology and not user upgradable video cards,
a thing which means that either you can get ryse with more processing at a lower pixelcount,
or you can get ryse at a higher pixelcount but with lower processing.

and the former looks better than the latter in overall image quality, which is the question here.

here is what the drifter dude asked:
Originally Posted by Drifters

Serious question; is 900p And 1080p that big of a difference on a 1080p TV from a proper viewing distance? I feel like a dipshit asking but seems like it doesn't matter a whole lot.
get it now? I think you do....

also you didnt answer on one thing.. you have an xbone?
 
I doubt you'll be banned for simply telling others the advice a mod gave. Not sure that constitutes as back seat modding.

I was banned last time for saying opinions are like arseholes everyone has one so they should stop making topics about it. I nearly missed NPD predictions because of it.
 

One4U

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To gaffers who intend to buy SO:

Just ignore those trolls in this tread or might be better just leave this tread and wait for the OT to discuss/share the gaming experience.

Don't waste your time to argue with those trolls.
 

Korezo

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This is why I'm waiting for Xbox to get a huge price cut before I get one. This just keeps pushing me away. How am I going to play Forza Horizon 2...
 

Hydrargyrus

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I like that the thread is called: "Sunset Overdrive runs at 30 fps/900p" and when you look inside it's full of "Who cares?", "But it looks super fun", "I'm tired of this things. PS3 too"...

What I really don't know is what are people expecting to find when they came here?. I mean, if in the tittle clearly says that is about resolution and the frame rate, why people are upset to find other users talking about that?.

If you don't want to read about resolution, it's easy, go to other thread, I don't know, one that is called "SO is super fun and fresh to play"
 

killatopak

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Maybe PC down the line, though I wouldn't count on it.

I don't think it'll appear on PC or any other console other than XB1. The devs has a history of just doing exclusive games. I don't think they ever released a multiplatform game before.

Except Fuse.
There are people in this thread who have had this exact same discussion two dozen times already regarding different games. Doesn't this ever get tiring?

This thread being healthy means no. Also you don't have to enter a thread if you're tired of this discussion.
 

demolitio

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I use ryse as an example, because it fits the situation very nicely, and has been very well documented too.

and you do miss a part, the one where we are talking about fixed technology and not user upgradable video cards,
a thing which means that either you can get ryse with more processing at a lower pixelcount,
or you can get ryse at a higher pixelcount but with lower processing.

and the former looks better than the latter in overall image quality, which is the question here.

here is what the drifter dude asked:

get it now? I think you do....

also you didnt answer on one thing.. you have an xbone?

I plan on getting one when Halo 5 comes out. Is that allowed gatekeeper? I play games. I don't care where if I like them. Once Halo 5 comes out, I'll have a reason to buy one and some other games I missed out on like SO. The fact that it's something that matters so much to you just proves my point again when it's a resolution topic with a question about whether there's a discernible difference between the two.

And no, I don't get it since you still avoid the question since it has NOTHING TO DO WITH RYSE. It's a simple resolution question, not a specific Ryse question. Only you are interpreting it that way for your own reasons.

He simply asked if resolution is noticeable on his TV. It is to most people. You keep looking for some other argument that I don't even get because I don't care that this game is 900p despite me PREFERRING games in 1080p. I want to play it. I like games. I don't go to bat for my favorite console manufacturer looking to argue with anyone I come across if they feel differently.

Resolution is noticeable. Does that mean anything else you want to take away from that simple sentence? NO.

I didn't miss a single part. Where did fixed tech come into my post? Where did I talk about any of this? Are you mixing me up with another useless argument you've had in this thread? All I'm addressing is the question about 1080p and 900p and how you didn't answer that by giving an opinion about Ryse being the best looking game. That has nothing to do with the question that goes beyond a specific video game.

Plenty of examples out there between 900p and 1080p that show a difference. That doesn't mean it was right for Ryse since you keep wanting to equate my statement to that game for some reason.

Let bygones be bygones. Let Sleeping Dogs lie (you hear me Square Enix? Stupid Triad Wars).

I'm not dissing any of your favorite games for crying out loud. I want to play them because I like games.
 
because I'm not going to sit 3 inches from my screen and count pixels? I just wonder if it something that is actually noticeable or just message board fodder.



What would the difference look like? Does a 900p resolution create artifacts/blurriness etc?

Sorry for the late response. Blurriness mostly, graphics will not be as sharp.
 

demolitio

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Sorry for the late response. Blurriness mostly, graphics will not be as sharp.

The best comparison I could find with no other variables for console games is Black Flag PS4 before and after the 1080p patch. The .gifs at the bottom do a good job of illustrating what you said and it's really most noticeable with games with long view distances. Like I said, I'm fine with SO being at 900p, just correcting that there IS a difference for most people.

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http://www.examiner.com/article/assassin-s-creed-4-black-flag-900p-and-1080p-resolutions-compared-on-ps4
 

Norml

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I'm surprised they couldn't hit 1080p. Ryse is a good look on 900p,but the graphics alone are a huge part of not noticing or caring as much,whereas this doesn't look to come close.
 
Man, so much shit throwing in this thread from both sides. Though, I'm genuinely surprised that it's such a huge point of discourse. I thought it was pretty clear, months ago, that Sunset Overdrive would end up being a 900p/30fps game.
 
PS4 is fine, given that it can do Uncharted 4 level graphics at 1080p60. Bone on the other hand will not likely be able to reach such heights, ever.

But but but misterxmedia and Insider tell me that once DX12 is included the XB1 has double the power of the PS4, they just waiting to unlock it.
 

p3tran

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Man, so much shit throwing in this thread from both sides. Though, I'm genuinely surprised that it's such a huge point of discourse. I thought it was pretty clear, months ago, that Sunset Overdrive would end up being a 900p/30fps game.
correct.
there have also been at least two or three threads about it.

but here, its groundhog day
 

SgtCobra

Member
ok, I'm bored with this shit....


you know what? WHO CARES?
last generation, THE RULE was that ps3 got the inferior and/or broken ports of practically EVERY SINGLE GAME,
yet a lot of ps3 owners seemed quite happy. no?

this generation, again I have both consoles since day 1, and I still have not seen a broken port like I did on ps3.

but a handful of guys still bang the same drum.

well, keep on banging it, just be sure to notice that what sony has declared to be the most important game for them from fall 'till next year, really has no advantage (gfx or whatever you like) on ps4. (if that means anything to your syllogism)

lets discuss instead about all the games that xbone has that ps4 ...doesnt. (wow, sunset overdrive is one of them! who;d have guessed??! :D )
bottom line, it makes more sense than this stuff
You seem to care, you have 10 posts in this topic. Why does this bother you so much? Just skip this topic every time you see it on the frontpage and go on with your life, you can't stop these discussions.

Edit: 11 posts.
 
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