Zeyphersan
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What about the overwhelming number of titles that AREN'T locked?
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Ubisoft says that MS & Sony are 'pressuring them' into 30FPS on PC; Phil: Not true
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What about the overwhelming number of titles that AREN'T locked?
harrypmgaga
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Cert is basic checking to see if the game impacts the console experience. They don't care about content (unless of course your game is about something crazy offensive) and they don't even look at content. They run a bunch of tests to make sure your game doesn't break the system, their services, or anything on their end. (And of course that the game is playable).
Spottiettiedop
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I call BS. No names at all in this article?
Zeyphersan
Banned
Because they don't exist
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Deleted member 10571
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Why not linking to the original Reddit post that at least has "proof" photos in it, as well as an announcement beforehand to collect questions? http://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/2j7r9j/delivering_ubisoft_came_to_my_school_for_a/
well i knew that...how does that disprove that MS is telling Ubi to lock the frame rate at 30fps for the PC version?
I don't believe this story (if true that would suck for PC gamers).
mugurumakensei
Member
Well, the first line opens up with what they go through for certification and that first line is known to be false. Not much credibility for the rest of the story after that point.
SJRB
Gold Member
*) according a random Reddit user
I find it hard to believe a random group of kids [they seem very young in the picture] ask hard-hitting questions about framerates to a bunch of random Ubisoft employees giving a presentation at a school. Let alone have the Ubisoft people straight up saying stuff like that about Microsoft.
Thanks. will update op
They are the main ones that would ask hard hitting question.. grown ups are too PC
You've got a point there
mugurumakensei
Member
One of the guy's names does match an ubisoft employee, but his linked in profile shows he's pretty much on the Just Dance team.
MidgarBlowedUp
Member
NoeGaf: Ok, so maybe you can feed the general public this bullshit, but what about us?
Ubisoft: You are the eventuality of an anomaly which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden assiduously avoided it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control.
thelastcrusader
Banned
Picture of Ubisoft slideshow in a classroom is all I needed. Fuck you Ubisoft and fuck forced parity. Why is it so horrible to want the best possible gaming experience for everyone's individual setup. Seriously, even gimping PC?
Zeyphersan
Banned
Guys, think about this for two seconds
1) That's not how cert works
2) There have been WAY more not-30fps-framelocked PC ports than framelocked ones, including those games coming from the Xbox One (Dead Rising, Ryse). No pressuring is happening
I know people are freaking about over this whole parity thing, but calm yourselves.
1) That's not how cert works
2) There have been WAY more not-30fps-framelocked PC ports than framelocked ones, including those games coming from the Xbox One (Dead Rising, Ryse). No pressuring is happening
I know people are freaking about over this whole parity thing, but calm yourselves.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Right, that explains all the DLC for Destiny only available on Sony systems!
And all the fucking other games that run better on PS4 and PC
TheVanillaGorilla
Neo Member
This is not good. All the kids are gonna believe you can underperform at your job and basically insult your customer base yet still have success.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
How on earth is it a different market? If a consumer owns a console and a PC and the PC version is better... which do you think consumers are more likely to go with?
serversurfer
Member
Gerighty seemed to be indicating exceptions happen, since he had hopes of "slipping it past MS." Otherwise he wouldn't have wasted the time and money to implement the feature in the first place.
Unfortunately, even though they already had it working, the feature didn't make it in to the game, for whatever reason.
Admiral Woofington
Member
The story's credibility is blurry at best.
Must be in 900p
edit: just noticed the proof. My joke is now forced. Just like...parity?
Must be in 900p
edit: just noticed the proof. My joke is now forced. Just like...parity?
Internally, I believe this is being referred to as "Operation Headwind" -- it's a Microsoft initiative designed to ensure developer compliance and provide reeducation where necessary, and to codify into domestic and international trade law certain concerns which are to be subject to parity restrictions.
Initiatives like this make it clear that Microsoft has the will and the means to win this fight and that if a battle cannot be won in the arena of public opinion, then Microsoft will take that fight to whatever theatre best affords them the chance of victory.
Initiatives like this make it clear that Microsoft has the will and the means to win this fight and that if a battle cannot be won in the arena of public opinion, then Microsoft will take that fight to whatever theatre best affords them the chance of victory.
SwiftDeath
Member
That's interesting. I had really meant like meaningful content and not the sort of bolted on stuff but content is content
Celestial Mortal
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To diminish the difference between XBO and PC versions possibly?
GrantDaNasty
Member
Before anyone here thinks about posting any snap judgments, consider the following:
a) This "Online Programmer", what is their name (I understand anonymity would help with job security, but you already pinned down their title which I imagine is already thinning the list quite a bit)?
b) what is the name of the school this person visited, and perhaps a more specific title for the lecture or whatever the hell they were doing there specifically?
c) is there any actual proof that any of this occurred?
Seems like someone's just trying to start more shit, which is funny considering Ubisoft really doesn't need anymore considering their current track record.
a) This "Online Programmer", what is their name (I understand anonymity would help with job security, but you already pinned down their title which I imagine is already thinning the list quite a bit)?
b) what is the name of the school this person visited, and perhaps a more specific title for the lecture or whatever the hell they were doing there specifically?
c) is there any actual proof that any of this occurred?
Seems like someone's just trying to start more shit, which is funny considering Ubisoft really doesn't need anymore considering their current track record.
shadowsdarknes
Member
Regardless of the topic at hand: Ubisoft..what the fuck!?
Too much bad and weird PR.
Too much bad and weird PR.
To be fair no one implied they were working on Unity or FC4. Guy in the pic is wearing a Watch Dogs shirt so maybe they are from that team. The tech team at Montreal is ~250 people, they aren't all working on games shipping this year.
Pyramid head
Banned
As someone who worked in QA for a console manufacturer for 8 years, that isn't all you check. You test the content, game play etc...
You don't test resolution against rival consoles though. If shit like that happens, I'm pretty sure it doesn't happen at the lowest rung on the game industry ladder.
Don't know who the people are but that redditer mentioned the school:
Grenoble INP - Ensimag, the best computer science and applied mathematics school in France
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/École_...ue_et_de_mathématiques_appliquées_de_Grenoble
and a photo of it
El-Pistolero
Member
I hope they visit other schools for parity...
thelastcrusader
Banned
Honestly, this the most important topic going on right now and its mostly being brushed off. We should demand an answer from Ubisoft and Microsoft. Do we know if its true? We don't but we need to find out. This parity will affect videogamers everywhere on every gaming setup.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Honestly, this is the biggest FUD topic going on right now and I feel dirty for even replying to your post and bumping it
Unless you're being sarcastic, in which case that's on me.
the_batman
Banned
communism doesn't work!
thelastcrusader
Banned
Dead serious. How is gimping games and selling people handicapped products ok with anyone? It's not about resolution.
justsomeguy
Member
I'd like to know exactly what words the dev used to "imply" ms were trying to force 30fps on pc.
Am also very interested in the use of Azure... Is that on ps4 too? And does it imply an always online game?
This write up is just a bit too vague for my liking.
Am also very interested in the use of Azure... Is that on ps4 too? And does it imply an always online game?
This write up is just a bit too vague for my liking.
Quadraphonic
Member
I, and everyone else, should have expected 30FPS.
The framerate being locked isn't the issue. The resolution is. How is it people miss this?
The framerate being locked isn't the issue. The resolution is. How is it people miss this?
"But it gets better: the Game Architect said that they always try to aim for 60FPS, but due to "limitations", they have been settling at 30FPS for their latest games. He continued, saying that console makers are pressuring them into doing the same thing on P"
Wait, WTF?!
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Wait, WTF?!
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Ryse is published by Crytek and they own the rights to the game. Also its a graphical oriented company, they would never lock fps on PC.
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Its not only Microsoft, but Sony too going by the quote.