If I have an Xbox 1 and I can play Tomb raider why should I care about people who don't have an X1 and can't play Tomb Raider?
... Seriously?
Okay, let's review. If you have an XB1, and can play Tomb Raider, which you already would have been able to... You've gained nothing. You've lost nothing. This does nothing for you. Yay, breaking dead even!
Now, despite the inherent arrogance of that perspective, that's still fine, because that's your consumer perspective. However, the group of people that would have played it on other platforms, i.e. PS4/PC/NGAUGE, is much, much larger than the base of XB1 owners. They aren't locked out of buying the game, they just have to wait however long for that period to end, because MS cut a check for it.
You didn't win, just a lot of people 'lose'. So congrats on your nothing.
The PS4 owners who want to play TR will just buy an Xbox to do so.
The PS4 owners who want to play TR will just buy an Xbox to do so.
Why would they bother? They know they'll get them game, just with a different release date. The idea that they'd spend several hundred dollars to get the game a bit faster than otherwise is silly at best, and stupid to be honest.
Will a few? Sure. Will it be a significant percentage? Haha, no.
A gaffer made this one which looks really goodCan someone with photoshop skills put Phil's face and name onto this picture or a similar one?
Can someone with photoshop skills put Phil's face and name onto this picture or a similar one?
It's amazing how every assumption you make always leans in the exact same direction.Because the majority don't know that the game is coming to the PS4? Tomb Raider has a new fanbase now, and it's those that will buy the Xbox for the sequel.
It's amazing how every assumption you make always leans in the exact same direction.
There you go.
A gaffer made this one which looks really good
Because the majority don't know that the game is coming to the PS4? Tomb Raider has a new fanbase now, and it's those that will buy the Xbox for the sequel.
Posters assume that people won't buy Xbox for TR lol, yet I assume they will. Yet I'm the one who gets called out on his assumption.
Because the majority don't know that the game is coming to the PS4? Tomb Raider has a new fanbase now, and it's those that will buy the Xbox for the sequel.
Posters assume that people won't buy Xbox for TR lol, yet I assume they will. Yet I'm the one who gets called out on his assumption.
It's amazing how every assumption you make always leans in the exact same direction.
O_O ooooook.Experience in the real world with a job? You do what your boss tells you, you certainly don't quit over DRM or a $150 microphone.
Well, maybe some of you guys would. Honor and Shame are big parts of it I hear.
That's not what you said. You said PS4 owners will buy an Xbox to play Tomb Raider. As in people who have already forked out $400 for a console will fork out another $450 just to play Tomb Raider 3-4-5-6 months earlier.
If the shoe was on the other foot I can almost guarantee your assumption would be that people wouldn't buy a PS4 to play Tomb Raider if they already owned an XBOne.
Give up, its Hindle.
I still don't get the reference!
Didn't Sony pay Red Thread Games to keep Dreamfall Chapters a console exclusive for the PS4? It was potentially coming to all systems prior. There could be more to it, but I was a disappointed to hear it. I really enjoyed the original The Longest Journey. http://n4g.com/news/1566916/dreamfall-chapters-no-longer-coming-to-wii-u-or-xbox-one
We are also in dialogue with Nintendo. We're going to be looking at it," he answered. "We can't make any promises because the the Wii U, it's underpowered compared to the next-gen consoles and PC obviously - I don't think that's a secret or Nintendo would get upset at me.
We're going to look at getting the game running on Wii U and then we'll make decisions depending on how that goes and what we see the market possibilities are doing. Like I said, we don't want to exclude anything, so we'll try anything.
Why would they bother? They know they'll get them game, just with a different release date. The idea that they'd spend several hundred dollars to get the game a bit faster than otherwise is silly at best, and stupid to be honest.
Will a few? Sure. Will it be a significant percentage? Haha, no.
Its to bolster the lineup. TR was a fine game, sometimes great, when the trailer for next gen TR hits people will be licking their lips along with the collection of games that will come out in 2015, it does make the X1 looks stronger regardless of it being timed. And no, it's not that it was already coming to X1 its about the dev team fully focused on x1 (360 is an afterthought most likely) to bring the best experience they can. While I don't encourage it, I don't see anything wrong with it, its been a part of this industry for years. And to be honest MS have deep pockets so I don't believe we're losing out on a piece of their gaming budget, they just bought a 2billion dollar company, if the business opportunity is right they'll invest.
Its to bolster the lineup. TR was a fine game, sometimes great, when the trailer for next gen TR hits people will be licking their lips along with the collection of games that will come out in 2015, it does make the X1 looks stronger regardless of it being timed. And no, it's not that it was already coming to X1 its about the dev team fully focused on x1 (360 is an afterthought most likely) to bring the best experience they can. While I don't encourage it, I don't see anything wrong with it, its been a part of this industry for years. And to be honest MS have deep pockets so I don't believe we're losing out on a piece of their gaming budget, they just bought a 2billion dollar company, if the business opportunity is right they'll invest.
I still don't get the reference!
The PS4 owners who want to play TR will just buy an Xbox to do so.
If the game is coming out on PS4 a few months later, this talk of the game now being developed with the X1's strengths in mind is complete nonsense either way.
Dev team fully focused on X1? What, do you think they'll only start making the PS4 version once the X1 version is on shelves? No, they'll be developed simultaneously, they announced the game to be multiplatform from the very start. I see no reason why they'd even alter the development roadmap for either version. Nothing aside from the PS4 version having a few extra months in the pipeline.
No I won't, why would I want to pay out for a XboxOne for one game? It would also mean paying out for online again. I am still interested in TR and will buy it when it eventually comes out on the PS4, but I can't justify spending arround £400 for a £40 game.
I still don't get the reference!
What signs are there that suggest this?
I never said I "won", I just asked why should I care.... Seriously?
Okay, let's review. If you have an XB1, and can play Tomb Raider, which you already would have been able to... You've gained nothing. You've lost nothing. This does nothing for you. Yay, breaking dead even!
Now, despite the inherent arrogance of that perspective, that's still fine, because that's your consumer perspective. However, the group of people that would have played it on other platforms, i.e. PS4/PC/NGAUGE, is much, much larger than the base of XB1 owners. They aren't locked out of buying the game, they just have to wait however long for that period to end, because MS cut a check for it.
You didn't win, just a lot of people 'lose'. So congrats on your nothing.
The roadmap has been altered though as have (most likely) resources to a) satisfy MS under whatever deal was made b) review and focus headcount on most immenent release c) continue with others but not at the expense of X1 version and d) risk lowered due to deal with does remove certain amount of pressure from the studio
Titanfall deal is an example how wrong a lot of people here were, of course until we know the facts I can't accept the simple conclusion your trying to push, or that the product isn't to gain from it.
So you won't accept the simple and most logical conclusion, but instead rely on your own narrative that Microsoft now demands a higher quality title with a bigger personnel investment.
That's not how it works. As far as we know, Microsoft bought exclusive time. That's it.
A few months is not going to substantially shift PS4 team staff over to X1 development all of a sudden. It wouldn't make sense. Especially not when both teams set out to reach their targets before holiday 2015 and their current development roadmap would suffice perfectly.
I honestly don't think Microsoft cares that much about potentially making the X1 version a smidge more polished when there won't be anything to compare it to for months.
They made the investment to be able to prop up a semi-exclusive AAA title during the holidays. That's what they paid money for and it's probably a business-savvy move, albeit a very anti-consumer one.
Honestly there is no reason you should. PS1 owners didn't give a shit when Sony did basically the same shit with TR 2. Now people want to act like it's the worst shit ever when MS does it. Please...I never said I "won", I just asked why should I care.
Honestly there is no reason you should. PS1 owners didn't give a shit when Sony did basically the same shit with TR 2. Now people want to act like it's the worst shit ever when MS does it. Please...
Honestly there is no reason you should. PS1 owners didn't give a shit when Sony did basically the same shit with TR 2. Now people want to act like it's the worst shit ever when MS does it. Please...
Sony too?Honestly there is no reason you should. PS1 owners didn't give a shit when Sony did basically the same shit with TR 2. Now people want to act like it's the worst shit ever when MS does it. Please...
You said PS4 owners will buy an Xbox to play Tomb Raider. As in people who have already forked out $400 for a console will fork out another $450 just to play Tomb Raider 3-4-5-6 months earlier.
If the shoe was on the other foot I can almost guarantee your assumption would be that people wouldn't buy a PS4 to play Tomb Raider if they already owned an XBOne.
And what about us PC gamers?
Oh definitely. But that wasn't the argument being made at the time.I doubt there are many who would buy a console for only one game. I say I bought PS4 purely for Naughty Dog's games, but I'm also interested in other games Sony publish; SingStar, The Order, Ratchet & Clank, etc.
Having Tomb Raider might not be enough to persuade consumer to buy an Xbox next year, but having other exclusives plus Tomb Raider might be just enough.