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[LowEndTorque]

That may be your opinion, but review scores and the opinions of many would disagree whole heartedly.

Can you elaborate a little on why you think "review scores would disagree wholeheartedly"?

The best reviewed games of 2014 so far consist of a PS3 remaster, a Wii U exclusive, a port of a PC game and a last gen game that isn't on the current gen consoles.

 

[BruiserBear]

LBP3 is Sony's marquee exclusive this fall, not Driveclub.

That's the first time I've ever heard that said anywhere, but ok.

I never said that Sony hasn't been coasting this year. As a matter of fact, if you were to look at the history of Sony's 1st year of consoles, they have always turned out to be poor in terms of 1st/2nd party exclusives, & PS4 is no different.

Once the 2nd year comes around, that's when we start to see a lot of exclusives coming from them.

That wasn't even remotely true for their previous console. I'm not gonna bother to dig up the full list, but off the top of my head the PS3 had Resistance, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Ractchet and Clank, and Warhawk all in it's first year. That was a very strong first year IMO.

What about the positive impressions, big lines at most game conferences and about over 20 awards it won at E3

I'm usually going to take the impressions of someone in the press over some kid who stood in line for 3 hours to get a chance to play it. E3 awards mean nothing, especially when they're not related to how it plays.

But wasnt Quantum Break also delayed, even all the way to next year September, yet Xbox fans brag about it, both are still new ips coming out on either consoles, So why cant PS4 fans brag about theirs

...........Oh wait its Bruiser Bear talking about Sony

I am not aware of Quantum Break ever getting a release date, so it being delayed seems like a claim you're pulling from your ass. The September 2015 date is nothing more than a rumor.

Can you elaborate a little on why you think "review scores would disagree wholeheartedly"?

The best reviewed games of 2014 so far consist of a PS3 remaster, a Wii U exclusive, a port of a PC game and a last gen game that isn't on the current gen consoles.

I'm not interested in doing the research for you, but go look up the Metacritic scores for the big games on both platforms and see what you find.

 

[MThanded]

Destiny selling a lot more on Xbox One.
Despite the double digit millions Sony invested in the title.

Just throwing that stat out there for fun.
Console hardware sales don't always tell the full story for the industry as a whole.

Spoiler

Just talking about US for now

This almost got me.

Had to be a joke post

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

What is it about these threads that brings the nonsense out in people?

Why are people so offended that their console of choice is losing?

Why do multiconsole owners even care?

And BruiserBear. Dude, sell your PS4. You are becoming unsufferable.

 

[lonedigitalwolf]

And BruiserBear. Dude, sell your PS4. You are becoming unsufferable.

I'll take it and give it a loving home.

 

[Bgamer90]

You were pretty sure that the release of titanfall would start the rise of xbo and the closing of the gap with ps4 in NA and that was well after the DRM policy.

Yeah. I thought Titanfall would help sales of the Xbox One more than it did. Don't see what that has to do with my predictions almost 2 years before the PS4 and Xbox One released though.

Then you switched to the phil spencer moto of only the holidays matter.

Uhh... no? I never said that "only the holidays matter". What in the world are you talking about?

I can sense the "battle tone" coming off of many in this thread (including you). Hilarious.

 

[truth411]

I think it's quite obvious the reason the PS4 caught up in worldwide sales was purely a result of Sony's brand power internationally over Microsoft. The Sony brand is strong in a lot of the world. Microsoft and Xbox is not. Plenty of people were happy with their 360's til the very end, precisely because it had all those better performing multiplatform games, and the exclusives it got tended to be high quality.

No disrespect but that is not true, that's a half truth. Yes Sony is a stronger brand world wide but saying that is the SOLE reason why it caught up to the 360 is bogus. It's bogus for the following reasons:

It ignores that Sony got the PS3 price down to 399 at the end of the first year.
It ignores Sony kick ass 1st and 2nd party games being churned out one after another while M.S. was good from 2005-2007, in 2008 was just Gears 2, 2009-2011 was just a halo, Forza, fable cycle. Also during that time PSN was improving real fast, with the introduction of PS+ especially when the IGC was added, many gamers were questioning the value of Xbox live Gold that had its price increased from $50 to $60 per User ID. There are more reasons for the PS3 turnaround, but saying it solely the reason of Sony's PlayStation brand is just not true and just a case where I don't believe your giving credit where credit is due. Just my 2¢.

 

[BruiserBear]

And BruiserBear. Dude, sell your PS4. You are becoming unsufferable.

I'm insufferable for pointing out the inconsistencies in claims being made. Okay.

No disrespect but that is not true, that's a half truth. Yes Sony is a stronger brand world wide but saying that is the SOLE reason why it caught up to the 360 is bogus. It's bogus for the following reasons:

It ignores that Sony got the PS3 price down to 399 at the end of the first year.
It ignores Sony kick ass 1st and 2nd party games being churned out one after another while M.S. was good from 2005-2007, in 2008 was just Gears 2, 2009-2011 was just a halo, Forza, fable cycle. Also during that time PSN was improving real fast, with the introduction of PS+ especially when the IGC was added, many gamers were questioning the value of Xbox live Gold that had its price increased from $50 to $60 per User ID. There are more reasons for the PS3 turnaround, but saying it solely the reason of Sony's PlayStation brand is just not true and just a case where I don't believe your giving credit where credit is due. Just my 2¢.

Their brand power being strong meant the those price drops opened up a purchase for those that saw the brand appeal. In the U.S, the territory where Xbox actually had appeal, the sales lead never weakened, despite everything else.

 

[Biker19]

Wait, what? 2013 MS was the real MS all along. Do you understand how Microsoft became Microsoft in the first place?

2014 MS is nothing more than the XBox division trying to hurriedly re-don their Sheep's Clothing. They got the Embrace & Extend part of J Allard's plan right, but thankfully, they were a little too quick with the Extinguish, and most people then remembered who they were actually dealing with.

It's never been "for the gamers." It's always been "for MS." The end goal wasn't getting all the money by providing you with the best entertainment possible. The goal was taking control of your entertainment so they can tax you by allowing you to access it. Microsoft have never been interested in competing with anyone. Their bread and butter has always been leveraging monopoly positions, so to them, "competition" is simply a matter of establishing said monopoly. That's why it's so ironic to hear their supporters now cry, "B-but, competition!!" ><

Not to mention that the first hint about their entire, "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" plan to taking over the living room, was completely ditching most of the Original Xbox team consisting of J. Allard, Seamus Blackley, Ed Fries, Robbie Bach, etc. since about 2007. Those were the guys who designed both the Original Xbox & Xbox 360 (designed them purely for gaming) & cared about gaming a lot.

Xbox One however, is nothing more than a corporate machine that was designed by corporates, not a gaming machine designed by gamers. And it definitely shows.

 

[mdubs]

Well at any rate, hopefully Sony will eventually give me a reason to actually use my ps4 in the near future outside of replaying the Last of Us and Persona 5.

Also, so much anger on both sides here. Hilarious how people feel like they are on the side of God delivering righteous judgment to Microsoft.

 

[LowEndTorque]

I'm not interested in doing the research for you, but go look up the Metacritic scores for the big games on both platforms and see what you find.

Oh, ok. So your position is that you can just say something like "the review scores wholeheartedly disagree" without providing any proof to back it up. Gotcha.

 

[Percy]

I'm not interested in doing the research for you, but go look up the Metacritic scores for the big games on both platforms and see what you find.

Out of curiousity I did just this and looked at the metascores for all releases on both PS4 and Xbox One and it looks like PS4 has a pretty solid edge if you're going purely by review scores. Far more games "in the green" on PS4 and 5 games with a 90+ metascore vs 1 game with the same on Xbox One.

Using review scores as an attempt to 'prove' anything is beyond stupid btw.

I can sense the "battle tone" coming off of many in this thread (including you). Hilarious.

Incredibly defensive posting with regard to a platform of choice also fits the console warrior label when it goes far enough imo.

 

[truth411]

I'm insufferable for pointing out the inconsistencies in claims being made. Okay.



Their brand power being strong meant the those price drops opened up a purchase for those that saw the brand appeal. In the U.S, the territory where Xbox actually had appeal, the sales lead never weakened, despite everything else.

On the contrary the price drops show their brand was not strong enough hence the price drops. I'm just saying that your statement that the PS3 turnaround was purely because of brand power is bogus, that's all. Also if I remember correctly Sony was gaining ground in the U.S. 2009 was a good year for them, but when Kinect came out M.S. substantially increased its lead.

Edit: Your post sounds like your implying the PS3 had no value. If someone bought it, it was just based on brand. Is that your implication?

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

I'm insufferable for pointing out the inconsistencies in claims being made. Okay.

When the general reaction of just about everyone who replies to your posts (assuming their post makes reference to your console allegiance) is "it's BruiserBear, so of course it's anti-PS4," the problem obviously lies with you.

No amount of hand waving and sarcasm will change that.

 

[Gamer345]

That's the first time I've ever heard that said anywhere, but ok.



That wasn't even remotely true for their previous console. I'm not gonna bother to dig up the full list, but off the top of my head the PS3 had Resistance, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Ractchet and Clank, and Warhawk all in it's first year. That was a very strong first year IMO.



I'm usually going to take the impressions of someone in the press over some kid who stood in line for 3 hours to get a chance to play it. E3 awards mean nothing, especially when they're not related to how it plays.


I am not aware of Quantum Break ever getting a release date, so it being delayed seems like a claim you're pulling from your ass. The September 2015 date is nothing more than a rumor.



I'm not interested in doing the research for you, but go look up the Metacritic scores for the big games on both platforms and see what you find.

Yes because people in the press are suddenly better at making gaming decisions than people who stood in line to play the game .most of the press are even also people who stood in line to play the game

There were even some positive previews from many gamers who wrote their own take

Lets not even take into consideration most of the press (IGN) didnt even know how to use the thermite rifle and the game was an ancient build whereby melee and body deformation were missing, AI was still very early with bugs as the devs made clear

But lets spin it your way, of course E3 awards mean nothing to you, its not an Xbox game, for the amount of E3 awards it got, there would have to have been numerous positive impression

 

[BruiserBear]

On the contrary the price drops show their brand was not strong enough hence the price drops. I'm just saying that your statement that the PS3 turnaround was purely because of brand power is bogus, that's all. Also if I remember correctly Sony was gaining ground in the U.S. 2009 was a good year for them, but when Kinect came out M.S. substantially increased its lead.

Edit: Your post sounds like your implying the PS3 had no value. If someone bought it, it was just based on brand. Is that your implication?

I'm not implying that at all. But the brand matters, and Sony had a strong global identity. Xbox does not.

It's kind of like whats happening with the XB1 right now. Bundling games, price drops, etc, it doesn't seem to be helping because the brand has been weakened.

When the general reaction of just about everyone who replies to your posts (assuming their post makes reference to your console allegiance) is "it's BruiserBear, so of course it's anti-PS4," the problem obviously lies with you.

No amount of hand waving and sarcasm will change that.

Surely the mindset of the people saying that isn't affected by an allegiance to one specific console. Nope.

Yes because people in the press are suddenly better at making gaming decisions than people who stood in line to play the game .most of the press are even also people who stood in line to play the game

There were even some positive previews from many gamers who wrote their own take

Lets not even take into consideration most of the press (IGN) didnt even know how to use the thermite rifle and the game was an ancient build whereby melee and body deformation were missing, AI was still very early with bugs as the devs made clear

But lets spin it your way, of course E3 awards mean nothing to you, its not an Xbox game, for the amount of E3 awards it got, there would have to have been numerous positive impression

I don't even know why I'm wasting my time replying to you. As if you're even remotely neutral minded to have a discussion like this. My most anticipated game of 2015? Uncharted 4. My second most anticipated? No Man's Sky. Posted in in a thread asking that question. Yet you want to portray me as a guy who only likes Xbox games. Child please.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Surely the mindset of the people saying that isn't affected by an allegiance to one specific console. Hope.

Yes. Every last person who brings up your obvious bias against Sony must be a Sony fanboy. That's gotta be it. They're all just jealous of how totally neutral you are.

 

[Gamer345]

That's the first time I've ever heard that said anywhere, but ok.



That wasn't even remotely true for their previous console. I'm not gonna bother to dig up the full list, but off the top of my head the PS3 had Resistance, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Ractchet and Clank, and Warhawk all in it's first year. That was a very strong first year IMO.



I'm usually going to take the impressions of someone in the press over some kid who stood in line for 3 hours to get a chance to play it. E3 awards mean nothing, especially when they're not related to how it plays.


I am not aware of Quantum Break ever getting a release date, so it being delayed seems like a claim you're pulling from your ass. The September 2015 date is nothing more than a rumor.



I'm not interested in doing the research for you, but go look up the Metacritic scores for the big games on both platforms and see what you find.

Yes it was delayed and you cant even admit it

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/05/29/quantum-break-scheduled-for-2015-gets-teaser-video/

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2014/05/29/quantum-break-release-date-slips-to-2015

It was meant to be released around the same time as the Order in 2014, and with no actual hands on gameplay with Quantum break till now, I believe September release seems like a certain

But again keep spinning things to your agenda based on the console you like

 

[Patroclos]

It tells you nothing other than SCEJA has decided to bundle GTA V with the PS4. SCEA, SCEE and SCEJA all handle bundles differently and independently.

I assumed it would be a given here in the US too from this. You don't think so? I wonder why in god's name they wouldn't if they don't? I remember the GTA headset promotion from last year, that made me think at the time Sony will do everything possible to promote the partnership with Rockstar.

I feel this is honestly a pivotal holiday title that will determine November's winner. If they do a bundle it could be very successful. The Destiny bundle was massive for Sony and showed us that a multiplat can indeed be a system seller. While I realize GTA is a remaster and not new IP like Destiny I still believe it will be the key factor for holiday numbers this year. I believe the second key factor will be the performance of the MCC.

 

[BruiserBear]

Yes. Every last person who brings up your obvious bias against Sony must be a Sony fanboy. That's gotta be it. They're all just jealous of how totally neutral you are.

No, I doubt they're jealous, but when you're on a forum with a heavily slanted buy rate for the PS4 over the XB1, you're bound to catch some slack for criticisms of the leading console. That's just how it goes. The number of us who own both is pretty low.

Yes it was delayed and you cant even admit it

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/05/29/quantum-break-scheduled-for-2015-gets-teaser-video/

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2014/05/29/quantum-break-release-date-slips-to-2015

It was meant to be released around the same time as the Order in 2014, and with no actual hands on gameplay with Quantum break till now, I believe September release seems like a certain

But again keep spinning things to your agenda based on the console you like

Did you even bother to read the links before providing them? As I said, no release date was ever given for Quantum Break. A few people assumed a 2014 release, but thats irrelevant. Like I said, you're not interested in having adult conversations. Good bye.

 

[onQ123]

Do you see the conflict in attempting to argue how neglected the 360 was late in it's life, while ignoring the fact that Sony seemed to be ill prepared for the PS4's first year? Their marquee exclusive this fall was a game that was delayed from launch last year, and finally came out with severe online issues and lists of features that will arrive one day via a patch.

They look well prepared to me

While Xbox is cutting prices & giving away free games fighting to get rid of stock PlayStation has it's feet up knowing that they will sell all the PS4's they can ship this holiday. And trust me the number of people who want to play GTAV at it's best on a console is going to out number the people who want to play Sunset Overdrive.

 

[Freeman]

No, I doubt they're jealous, but when you're on a forum with a heavily slanted buy rate for the PS4 over the XB1, you're bound to catch some slack for criticisms of the leading console. That's just how it goes. The number of us who own both is pretty low.

Seems like the entire world has the same heavily slanted buy rate towards the PS4 over the XB1.

 

[Gamer345]

I'm not implying that at all. But the brand matters, and Sony had a strong global identity. Xbox does not.

It's kind of like whats happening with the XB1 right now. Bundling games, price drops, etc, it doesn't seem to be helping because the brand has been weakened.



Surely the mindset of the people saying that isn't affected by an allegiance to one specific console. Hope.



I don't even know why I'm wasting my time replying to you. As if you're even remotely neutral minded to have a discussion like this. My most anticipated game of 2015? Uncharted 4. My second most anticipated? No Man's Sky. Posted in in a thread asking that question. Yet you want to portray me as a guy who only likes Xbox games. Child please.

That is because you are clearly biased and have been caught almost everytime, I dont care what your anticipated games are, for all I know you are saying that to seem innocent and clear your name.

I like some Xbox games too, doesnt mean I dont have much bigger a preference for Sony WWS, I can at least admit this and still be fair on the Xbox side, you just dont like Sony, I see you complain about them in every thread, whilst not even having a clue about most of the PS4's features

"Child please" defensive mechanism trying to demean my points by calling me a child, its mostly people who have been caught out that use this

 

[USC-fan]

I'm not implying that at all. But the brand matters, and Sony had a strong global identity. Xbox does not.

It's kind of like whats happening with the XB1 right now. Bundling games, price drops, etc, it doesn't seem to be helping because the brand has been weakened.

brand wasnt weaken they just released a bad product and had terrible marketing plan. X360 still outsells the ps3 in na.

 

[Sirim]

What is it about these threads that brings the nonsense out in people?

Why are people so offended that their console of choice is losing?

Why do multiconsole owners even care?

And BruiserBear. Dude, sell your PS4. You are becoming unsufferable.

I was going to answer your questions with "BruserBear", but after reading ahead I see you've already noticed.

 

[Patroclos]

This almost got me.

Had to be a joke post

It wasn't. He was informed of his error multiple times and continued to be obtuse and argumentative about being technically right all while doing a bit of napkin math. To the best of my recollection he faded away like a malodorous fart shortly after a mod appearance.

Best to let such silliness die.

 

[Dragon]

Is there a plugin to improve the ignore functionality so it not only ignores BruiserBear's posts but anyone who replies to him? He's a hypocritical ignoramus and there is absolutely no point in any discussion with him. You learn less conversing with him than you would watching FOX News.

 

[serversurfer]

Not to mention that the first hint about their entire, "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" plan to taking over the living room, was completely ditching most of the Original Xbox team consisting of J. Allard, Seamus Blackley, Ed Fries, Robbie Bach, etc. since about 2007. Those were the guys who designed both the Original Xbox & Xbox 360 (designed them purely for gaming) & cared about gaming a lot.

Xbox One however, is nothing more than a corporate machine that was designed by corporates, not by gamers. And it definitely shows.

Actually, Allard was the guy that originally laid out the Embrace, Extend, & Extinguish strategy for MS. So I'm not particularly surprised XBox ended up following his three-step plan for market control.

XB1: Hi, guys! Can we play?
XB2: Aren't conference calls amazing??
XB3: ALL YOUR GAME ARE BELONG TO US

 

[Panajev2001a]

brand wasnt weaken they just released a bad product and had terrible marketing plan. X360 still outsells the ps3 in na.

North America != world.

 

[LowEndTorque]

I'm not interested in doing the research for you, but go look up the Metacritic scores for the big games on both platforms and see what you find.

Since you seem to be dodging the question, I’ll answer it for you.

You told me to go to metacritic and look up scores. So it seems your metric for measuring exclusive output is “number of exclusives with an 80 or higher on metacritic”?

Well in that case, we have three exclusives from MS in 2014 that meet your criteria (TF, SO , FH2).

And we have three exclusives from Sony in 2014 that meet your criteria (TLOU:R, infamous, MLB ’14).

Looks like a tie to me.

Not to mention that 2/3 of the MS exclusives that meet your criteria are bought from third parties. And any subsequent titles from those 3rd party IP’s will almost certainly come to the PS4 in the future (unless the devs/publishers think it’s smart to ignore the platform with almost half of the next gen console marketshare). Meanwhile all three of the Sony exclusives are developed by Sony’s own internal studios, meaning that they will never see the day of light on an xbox or any other platform.

So if anything, “the reviews” disprove your point rather than helping it.

 

[Sirim]

"UPDATED NUMBERS SHOW PS4 SELLING TWICE AS MUCH AS XB1"

BruiserBear says:

No, I doubt they're jealous, but when you're on a forum with a heavily slanted buy rate for the PS4 over the XB1, you're bound to catch some slack for criticisms of the leading console.

After you correctly understand the OP title, your next unbiased clear-headed conclusion will be that the world is biased for its heavily slanted buy rate.

 

[Gamer345]

No, I doubt they're jealous, but when you're on a forum with a heavily slanted buy rate for the PS4 over the XB1, you're bound to catch some slack for criticisms of the leading console. That's just how it goes. The number of us who own both is pretty low.



Did you even bother to read the links before providing them? As I said, no release date was ever given for Quantum Break. A few people assumed a 2014 release, but thats irrelevant. Like I said, you're not interested in having adult conversations. Good bye.

Yes I did, It was slated for a 2014 release but moved to 2015, just like the Order 1886 didnt have a concrete date but also slated for late 2014 release like Quantum break

You actually read the article yourself very well, again more obvious spinning from you

"Like I said, you're not interested in having adult conversations", How can I have one with a biased child??

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

No, I doubt they're jealous, but when you're on a forum with a heavily slanted buy rate for the PS4 over the XB1, you're bound to catch some slack for criticisms of the leading console. That's just how it goes. The number of us who own both is pretty low.

That's how it's going down worldwide not just on Gaf. Step out of that persecution complex bubble you're living in.

 

[Patroclos]

Yeah. I thought Titanfall would help sales of the Xbox One more than it did. Don't see what that has to do with my predictions almost 2 years before the PS4 and Xbox One released though.




Uhh... no? I never said that "only the holidays matter". What in the world are you talking about?

I can sense the "battle tone" coming off of many in this thread (including you). Hilarious.

Bgamer is a level headed dude. He may like MS but that doesn't make him the enemy. He would never say the bolded part above. It takes a special kind of idiot to say something like that.

One that says things like this golden oldie;

 

[Game4life]

I'm insufferable for pointing out the inconsistencies in claims being made. Okay.



Their brand power being strong meant the those price drops opened up a purchase for those that saw the brand appeal. In the U.S, the territory where Xbox actually had appeal, the sales lead never weakened, despite everything else.

In the US maybe. The problem was the rest of the world never cared. One major problem I think MS had was they never had that major critical darling in terms of games after Gears that really dominated media discussion. They never had their Uncharted 2 or TLOU moment and this really set them back in terms of perception of quality exclusives for the mainstream consumer. Even in an off year like 2012 for Sony an exclusive like Journey dominated GOTY awards from websites and gave them media coverage. Even if they released less exclusives than Sony last gen if they had really popular media picked GOTY titles, the perception of lack of exclusives would have disappeared. I may be wrong but I feel this will repeat again in 2015 when Bloodborne and UC4 release if they dominate GOTY awards everywhere.

 

[CoG]

Xbox One however, is nothing more than a corporate machine that was designed by corporates, not by gamers. And it definitely shows.

That's why the Phil Spencer worship is especially sickening. He's a nice guy focused on games and all but he answers up the chain. I can't imagine Satya and the board are too happy at the position they are in in the US much less the rest of the world. With the price drop(s), bundles, etc. I doubt the Xbox division is anywhere near profitable this generation.

People loved J but as soon as corporate didn't agree with how he did things he was out. Same can happen to Spencer, as impossible as that sounds now.

 

[Biker19]

Actually, Allard was the guy that originally laid out the Embrace, Extend, & Extinguish strategy for MS. So I'm not particularly surprised XBox ended up following his three-step plan for market control.

XB1: Hi, guys! Can we play?
XB2: Aren't conference calls amazing??
XB3: ALL YOUR GAME ARE BELONG TO US

No doubt. I also believe that this was the plan with Xbox all along:

Original Xbox: Embrace (successful)
Xbox 360: Extend (successful)
Xbox One: Extinguish (failed)

 

[Melchiah]

I'm not interested in doing the research for you, but go look up the Metacritic scores for the big games on both platforms and see what you find.

Someone made the research already, and the results don't support your claims.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=922024

Top 15 games of the year, according to Metacritic

15. Dark Souls II (PC) - 91
14. Bayonetta 2 (WIIU) - 91
13. Final Fantasy VI (iOS) - 91
12. Kentucky Route Zero - Act III (PC) - 91
11. Rayman Legends (XONE) - 91
10. Fez (VITA) - 91
09. Dark Souls II (X360) - 91
08. Shovel Knight (3DS) - 92
07. Table Tennis Touch (iOS) - 92
06. Threes! (iOS) - 92
05. Banner Saga (iOS) - 93
04. Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft (iOS) - 93
03. Traps n' Gemstones (iOS) - 93
02. VVVVVV (iOS) - 95
01. The Last of Us Remastered (PS4) - 95

 

[BruiserBear]

Since you seem to be dodging the question, I’ll answer it for you.

You told me to go to metacritic and look up scores. So it seems your metric for measuring exclusive output is “number of exclusives with an 80 or higher on metacritic”?

Well in that case, we have three exclusives from MS in 2014 that meet your criteria (TF, SO , FH2).

And we have three exclusives from Sony in 2014 that meet your criteria (TLOU:R, infamous, MLB ’14).


So if anything, “the reviews” disprove your point rather than helping it.

You had to include a sports game and a remastered game from 2013. You also forgot Fantasia which has a Metacritic of 80, and Halo which is coming out in a couple weeks.

"UPDATED NUMBERS SHOW PS4 SELLING TWICE AS MUCH AS XB1"

BruiserBear says:

After you correctly understand the OP title, your next unbiased clear-headed conclusion will be that the world is biased for its heavily slanted buy rate.

That's how it's going down worldwide not just on Gaf. Step out of that persecution complex you're living in.

You both should go re-read what I just said. Because there are so many PS4 only owners here, that means by default there are that many more irrational babies who get upset when I say obvious things about the shortcomings of the PS4 OS, and the exclusive games being pretty poor so far.

I expressed no surprise in their being more PS4 owners, and most of them are perfectly rational and acknowledge it's shortcomings.

Someone made the research already, and the results don't support your claims.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=922024

That list is worthless in the context of a discussion about the PS4 and XB1.

 

[A_Gorilla]

Someone made the research already, and the results don't support your claims.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=922024

Ouch, poor little bear...

 

[Hiko]

Oh look, another sales thread where people think exclusives are the only games that exist.

 

[Night Angel]

You had to include a sports game and a remastered game from 2013. You also forgot Fantasia which has a Metacritic of 80, and Halo which is coming out in a couple weeks.





You both should go re-read what I just said. Because there are so many PS4 only owners here, that means by default there are that many more irrational babies who get upset when I say obvious things about the shortcomings of the PS4 OS, and the exclusive games being pretty poor so far.

I expressed no surprise in their being more PS4 owners, and most of them are perfectly rational and acknowledge it's shortcomings.



That list is worthless in the context of a discussion about the PS4 and XB1.

So you really are trying to pretend you've been completely fair and balanced?

Just stop, dude. You've made your bias perfectly clear.

 

[Dredd97]

Hi, I just popped in to see if BruiserBear is alright, and hasn't had a meltdown yet....


oh shit, too late....

 

[Competa]

Wait, what? 2013 MS was the real MS all along. Do you understand how Microsoft became Microsoft in the first place?

2014 MS is nothing more than the XBox division trying to hurriedly re-don their Sheep's Clothing. They got the Embrace & Extend part of J Allard's plan right, but thankfully, they were a little too quick with the Extinguish, and most people then remembered who they were actually dealing with.

It's never been "for the gamers." It's always been "for MS." The end goal wasn't getting all the money by providing you with the best entertainment possible. The goal was taking control of your entertainment so they can tax you by allowing you to access it. Microsoft have never been interested in competing with anyone. Their bread and butter has always been leveraging monopoly positions, so to them, "competition" is simply a matter of establishing said monopoly. That's why it's so ironic to hear their supporters now cry, "B-but, competition!!" ><

Wauw, I reward you a price for the most misleading, biased post ever. Continue your propaganda, it seems to be working.

 

[Toki767]

You had to include a sports game and a remastered game from 2013. You also forgot Fantasia which has a Metacritic of 80, and Halo which is coming out in a couple weeks.

Should probably save this quote for when the Matter Chief Collection ends up being the highest rated Xbox One exclusive this year. You know the port and remaster of games even older than 2013.

 

[protonion]

Incredible and well deserved sales. Who would have thought 2 years ago this outcome?

I have almost all consoles since the atari 2600 and PS4 is the first one to feel really perfect.
It's difficult to explain this but I remember something Cerny said at the February event. That they wanted to make sure that nothing gets between the gamer and the experience (or something like that). PS4 is like it's not there. Everything happens so naturally and quickly. It's a system I love just to turn on. Something I cannot say about PS3 which felt it struggled to do even the simpler things.

Also many of my friends keep asking about it. Is it worth the money? Should they get one? etc. And they are not gamers or ever owned a console. They just play at my house.

So I think its success is more than the focused message, specs or price. It has a great aura more than anything.

 

[Melchiah]

That list is worthless in the context of a discussion about the PS4 and XB1.

This is the original post, and your answer to it.

The output from both MS and Sony for all of 2014 could largely be seen as coasting though. There was nothing truly compelling from either party, and that's ok.

That may be your opinion, but review scores and the opinions of many would disagree whole heartedly.

There's one title from both of them on the top 15 list.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

You both should go re-read what I just said. Because there are so many PS4 only owners here, that means by default there are that many more irrational babies who get upset when I say obvious things about the shortcomings of the PS4 OS, and the exclusive games being pretty poor so far.

Ok you've lost it. Good luck.

 

[Neuromancer]

Hey guys I have an idea, maybe a long list of games on both platforms and their metacritic scores would improve this thread.

 

[ShinMaruku]

Hey guys I have an idea, maybe a long list of games on both platforms and their metacritic scores would improve this thread.

That is assuming people are rational actors.

Spoiler

They are not

Only when the argument gets boring will this thread improve.