MS sacrificied profits and kinda bought market shares offering free games, making the XBox a cheaper alternative to the PS4. It helped Ms find a market among a population that heavily favors the PS4 so far.
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France: various sales numbers for Nintendo games, Nintendo #1 publisher in 2014
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El-Pistolero
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You might have had terrible night of sleeps with how the WiiU is doing worldwide...I sympathize, really.
That was US only though. We had some good deals in europe but nowhere near as crazy as the US.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Oh OK i get it now haha
theprodigy
Member
hmm
France top 10
01. FIFA 15 (1.265 million)
02. Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
03. Grand Theft Auto V
04. Watch Dogs
05. FIFA 14
06. Minecraft
07. Tomodachi Life
08. Super Smash Bros.
09. Call of Duty: Ghosts
10. Assassin's Creed Unity
UK top 10
1. FIFA 15
2. CALL OF DUTY: ADVANCED WARFARE
3. GRAND THEFT AUTO V
4. DESTINY
5. WATCH DOGS
6. MINECRAFT: XBOX EDITION
7. FIFA 14
8. FAR CRY 4
9. CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS
10. ASSASSIN'S CREED UNITY
UK has Far Cry 4 and Destiny, France has Tomodachi and Smash Bros, the other 8 are the same (well, Minecraft would certainly go up if the Xbox and Playstation versions were combined, but that doesn't really make a difference)
if anything, this means France likes FIFA slightly more!
Stop encouraging Nintendo making GOTY contenders, it's getting harder to lol at the Wii U.
2015 will be another great year
Jimmyfenix
Member
Yeah i am getting tired of people saying UK is the only place which only plays fifa & cod as well When they are the top 2 games in France as well!
Exactly, my man. That's what I'm saying.
It is hard to understand why it's constantly and comfortably outsold by the other two consoles, and I mean that sincerely.Stop encouraging Nintendo making GOTY contenders, it's getting harder to lol at the Wii U.
2015 will be another great year
I guess it's because the people that give the slightest fuck about GOTYs make up a tiny minority of the people that actually buy consoles and videogames. That and the fact that the library is rather narrow in comparison to the competition. No sports games, no GTA, no CoD, no audience.
Shhh. We're not supposed to point that out.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Number 1 in Japan too. Go Nintendo.
Insane number for Tomodachi Life and frankly I didn't expect to be the top publisher in my country.
Some sense huh ? Must be why Vita aren't selling anything in the UK
Some sense huh ? Must be why Vita aren't selling anything in the UK
Plenty of stores do their own deals. And I've seen plenty of pics of X1s for sale across Europe with various free games.
Bruno MB
Member
France being one of the most favorable markets for Nintendo shows how big of a failure Wii U is. 515,000 units sold in 2 years is nothing to write home about.
Wii U can't even keep up with Xbox 360 which despite having an atrocious start it still sold 55,000 units more during the same timeframe. And future comparisons will only look worse for Nintendo's home console because Xbox 360 managed to sell 570,000 additional units in 2008 and 560,000 in 2009.
Wii U can't even keep up with Xbox 360 which despite having an atrocious start it still sold 55,000 units more during the same timeframe. And future comparisons will only look worse for Nintendo's home console because Xbox 360 managed to sell 570,000 additional units in 2008 and 560,000 in 2009.
Yeah but I don't know what that has to do with encouragement. Have they stumbled marketing the thing? Absolutely. But you seem to think they should be punished for making great games because if they are rewarded, they'll do what? Make more?
theprodigy
Member
er, this isn't exactly the fairest comparison given that the 360's final LTD surely qualifies as fairly decent
Jimmyfenix
Member
Jimmyfenix
Member
LOL
Ex-Actarus
Banned
The point is despite Wii U troubles Nintendo still managed to have great numbers on the software front ( #1 publisher by the way ). Maybe you should bring the software performance of the 360 in France that year the 360 sold 55 K more units, Not sure a title performed as well as Mario Kart 8 or Smash U did in 2014...
Still, the best has yet to come... The Smash U hardware bundle is the right price for the Wii U and will help boost sales in 2015. Besides with Zelda, X, Starfox, Splatoon and Mario Maker coming this year, I think the Wii U in France will do very well !
Jimmyfenix
Member
The fight for 2nd place in france will be a good one to watch i think
I'm not sure where the myth that Nintendo outside of NDS/Wii has always done poorly in the UK compared to the rest of Europe has come from. Nintendo's UK hardware share of Europe has been pretty consistent;
Hardware: UK Sales / PAL Sales (UK %)
NES: >1m / 8.56m (>12%)
SNES: ~1.7m / 8.58m (~20%)
N64: ~1.6m / 6.75m (~24%)
GCN: ~1.2m / 4.77m (~25%)
WII: ~8.3m / 39.94m (~21%)
GBY: 6.63m / 42.16m (~16%)
GBA: >4.55m / 22.91m (>20%)
NDS: >10m / 61.09m (>16%)
From the 3DS competition on the same audience, to Wii U terrible post launch with games delays, etc. there are lots of factors to consider.
Nintendo being the most prolific editor on the market, with the highest quality games ratio, still makes Wii U a terrific console to own for fans.
2015 will see the launch of several cool games, so I'm rather optimistic about Wii U overcoming its perception issues. With the right price, its slow/sustained growth will probably carry on.
Most of my french friends now have a Wii U, so selfishly I'm only wishing Nintendo will make enough money to keep making such great games.
Astral Dog
Member
They didnt said anything about Bayonetta 2, probably could not reach those 60k expectations.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Then again, I feel like this is the first year it really had a bunch of GOTYs though. If next year results in a bunch more quality titles, maybe that'd help a bit. I think the lack of EA sports is killer though more than anything else. especially at the current price point.
They're not really encouraging them. These sales aren't that great. It couldn't even beat the XB1 even though it's been out a year longer and has a far stronger exclusive lineup. Nintendo still needs to figure out how to fix this 3rd party problem if they want to maintain any relevancy in the console space.
Haunted
Member
woah hey now
you lot are buying xb1s
hardly in a position to complain about another country's buying habits
Visualante2
Member
It's so interesting that France is so receptive to Japanese stuff. When I visited once there were so many Japanese comic books in news agents. Is there some reason behind this? Clearly some sort of relationship with Nintendo doing the guides in the Louvre and Miyamoto receiving the Légion d'honneur
Astral Dog
Member
Encouraging Nintendo? what do you mean by that, so its a bad thing a country is buying more Wii U games than another?
Because its better that those games aren't played at all.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
No, anime has been big here since the 70's so we're more receptive to anything japanese I guess. We're the second biggest consumer of manga behind Japan.
theprodigy
Member
well I meant relative to France, not to the rest of Europe, I know Nintendo is even more invisible than Microsoft in "tier 2" areas
but I'll be using this next time (where did you get all the UK figures from though?)
it doesn't have to, sales would be more evenly distributed among multiple 3rd parties
(and shouldn't it be 2006 for the 360? but I don't think that 360 total is from the end of 2006...)
This would be 2007 for the 360 right? Seems somewhat feasible that Halo 3 did comparable to MK8/Smash.
Indeed, for Nintendo relative to its competitors UK is the weakest market, even below the Americas. Which is quite different from continental Europe to say the least.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Deserved. Best line up for any publisher, good to see it acknowledged by gamers at large.
Miles Quaritch
Member
No retail presence, no marketing presence. It's no wonder why they are doing so terribly in the UK.
If they tried, they might actually see some level of success, but they just don't care.
theprodigy
Member
whoa hold up
Wii U % in France: 25.36% (likely to be the highest country in Europe)
Wii U % in Spain (through October, which means it's likely fallen since then as PS4 eats away at everything else): 19.61%
Wii U % in US: 22.08%
and something tells me Vita's horrific performance in the US means that ratio is straight up higher over here, so I don't think so
Ex-Actarus
Banned
Definitely possible, because Halo 3 was a beast back then. But Halo is not as big as Mario Kart or Smash in France ( in the US no question, in UK probably even bigger ). Besides, Halo 3 was released in late September 2007. So I would expect numbers similar to Smash U maybe, but not as much as Mario Kart 8.
Anybody would have the numbers for Halo 3 in France in 2007 please ?
I wasn't accounting for any specific system but speaking generally. But if you want to discuss specifics, what is Wii U's market share in the UK as the point of reference?
Palette Swap
Member
As I said in the other thread, that Smash bundle must have worked well for them. It's 229 at most retailers, which is a fairly aggressive price.
It's a basic pack but facially, that's way lower than the usual 279/299 bundles like the Mario Kart one.
It's a basic pack but facially, that's way lower than the usual 279/299 bundles like the Mario Kart one.
That's a good start. Wii owners are still buying lots of Just Dance, Mario Kart and NSMB. The real transition will happen when they can get that Wii U accessory for less than 199€.
King Gilga
Member
Yeah when I went to a paris HMV once the anime/manga section was like 50% of the store, crazy shit when it barely gets a shelf in UK HMVs.
I also remember in a sales thread about manga once that France was by far the second largest consumer in the west or something.
Garbage post.
I've always wondered why that is. What's the history behind it? I know it goes back at least as far as the late 19th century.
Mainly the following, combined with UK shipments for prior to 1991 (relatively minor), along with various other sources for Chart-Track (formerly Gallup) annual hardware sales.
Just "industry sources" listed here;
But the figures match these from Chart-Track (when accounting for rounding to 10,000 as opposed to 1,000 in the table above). Note; This graph also includes Saturn and Dreamcast despite not being named.
Palette Swap
Member
I guess you're not talking about Nintendo or Naruto but Japanese appreciation.
IIRC, it has a lot to do with import woodblock prints being popular in the 19th century: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japonism
I'll be honest: I refrained from buying the Smash bundle during the holiday period because I kind of expected it to see it drop to 199 during the usual January sales. That's really the next step, though.