Derpcrawler
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Couple of days ago, link is in video description.
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UE4 Tech Demo: "Unreal Paris Virtual Tour" aka most incredible thing I've ever seen
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Couple of days ago, link is in video description.
Phantast2k
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Thank you sir.
Yep, it looks scary good. SSR are great for their performance and very good for spec occlusion but they really are unstable, it shows a lot.
Also a lot of people who downplay the demo because of lightmaps don't get how difficult is to set up them to look that good and how much work the engineers did in the engine to ensure they work as intended.
I thought temporal reprojection was a characteristic of post process AA? Is it kind of like HRAA, which isn't quite post process but is still quick and has good coverage. It works great, no matter what.
DemonCleaner
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dat PBR
holy hell.
though, the areas where SSR fades to cubemap are becoming really distracting when everything else is this amazing.
holy hell.
though, the areas where SSR fades to cubemap are becoming really distracting when everything else is this amazing.
No. Neither FXAA (the poster child for post-process AA) nor SMAA 1x (which is what people usually mean when they just say "SMAA") have any temporal component.
And even many early techniques with a temporal component are not nearly as good as UE4's AA.
UE4 is free to all students. If you can't find a copy, shoot an email to Will Kinsler and he'll point you in the right direction.
E-Cat
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deferred has nothing to do with whether the lighting is baked or not. If anything, it allows you to use less baked lighting.
Oh yeah, I knew about SMAA and FXAA. I guess I've only heard of temporal reprojection in other post process AA solutions.
One question, is the softness I often see in UE4 due to the AA method or chromatic aberration?
TheCongressman1
Member
Man, that looked really nice.
I couldn't help but feel like I was about to play PT because of that hallway. Someone needs to make a mod...
I couldn't help but feel like I was about to play PT because of that hallway. Someone needs to make a mod...
Dat radiator.
The thing is, it's not actually that technically complex. To my eye it's a pretty simple demo which would easily run on current hardware. It's a question of can a game accommodate the tradeoffs it makes? (ain't it always the case?
It's a very well constructed demo, in that it does well to work around technical limitations and fool the eye. No doubt about that.
I'm not trying to diminish the accomplishment of the demo, just put some perspective on why it (at first glance) looks so much better than other demos:
The primary reason it looks as good as it does is due to it appearing to use *extremely* high resolution lightmaps throughout the scene (and what appears to be a rather large number of reflection capture probes too). Only in the bathroom scene can you start clearly to see pixilation appearing (in some of the towels, etc).
While there is nothing wrong with this, it's misrepresentative to attribute this lighting realism down to the realtime portion of the rendering engine - it's purely an offline process generated by Lightmass, unreal's offline ray tracer. All of which takes a large amount of time to process offline (likely several hours) and must be updated any time changes are made. Typically you get stuck with highly static lighting as a result.
Either that or they are using an absolute tonne of dynamic lights
There are lesser reasons why it looks as natural as it does; the very flat albedo used throughout and heavy use of white flattens the ambient lighting significantly, reducing noticeable glossy specular influence (basically making the lighting very uniform at any point on the surface - lightmapping based rendering systems typically struggle with highly directional lighting). You work around this by using environment capture probes, but they get expensive and to get this sort of result I imagine they used a lot.
Also the mix of overexposed (white) surfaces and underexposed (black) surfaces works well to hide lighting imperfections and inconsistency - it's usually the midtones where things look least natural because they have the most dynamic range - and sure enough it's in the bathroom where things fall apart somewhat, and the somewhat nonsensical screen space reflections (eg, black reflection of a white coffee pot).
It's all tradeoffs. AC:Unity looks as good as it does for the same reasons, but it is undeniable the disadvantages cannot be applied to all games; fixed time of day, huge production challenges, massive asset sizes (I believe Unity was ~20+GB of lightmaps), etc.
I'd be very interested in knowing the bake time for this demo at its quality level.
[edit]of course, this is all speculation. I haven't looked at the source level. So I might be talking complete bullshit
The Dear Leader
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This is really impressive, would love to see a game using UE4 with this kind of detail. Also how do you open the fridge in the game? I hear all this talk about PBR but I haven't even seen a can of it, is it hidden somewhere?
Interceptor
Banned
Not too impressed by the tech itself, very static. The attention to detail and the taste for chosing the proper baked lighting are whats impressive.
Runs with 50-60 fps on my 270x. Might be better if i close other programs though.
Runs with 50-60 fps on my 270x. Might be better if i close other programs though.
Annoying Old Party Man
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It looks good and is very beautiful, but it's just a static apartment space, no physics, nothing going on.
I expected to see lively parisian streets and lots of moving objects and unbelievable effects. This is just a specced up P.T. tour
I expected to see lively parisian streets and lots of moving objects and unbelievable effects. This is just a specced up P.T. tour
https://education.github.com/pack
(I applied for 200 student licenses for my course, took a couple of weeks, two days after I get them they release them for free for every student, doh, so I'm still sitting on 200 student licenses)
PLASTICA-MAN
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Grim Fandango Environment Recreated In Unreal Engine 4 : http://www.dsogaming.com/screenshot-news/grim-fandango-environment-recreated-in-unreal-engine-4/
disgusting bloom. far prefer the original tbh.
I've uploaded a 1080p walkthrough of the demo on my 750ti, in the description you can find a guide on how to play it full screen at any resolution with vsync on and change some quality settings. (AA, shadows, post processing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6WkaS08if8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6WkaS08if8
That chromatic aberration. I want to poke my eyes out. It does not belong there at all.
SpookyFries
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Come on... even Duke Nukem 3d had functioning mirrors.
Parhelion69
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I downloaded the demo and played it on my 970, and tbh I wasn't really impressed.
I mean, it does look good, it has high resolution textures and some nice geometry (mostly), but since everything is unanimated it does seem stale. I actually got impressed by P.T. more, it had higher attention to detail (garbage, photos, etc)
And the Silicon Studio demo on PS4 was even more impressive.
Well, to be fair this is a project from an individual, while the former examples mentioned have studios behind them. But still, this is not "the most incredible thing ever" imho
I mean, it does look good, it has high resolution textures and some nice geometry (mostly), but since everything is unanimated it does seem stale. I actually got impressed by P.T. more, it had higher attention to detail (garbage, photos, etc)
And the Silicon Studio demo on PS4 was even more impressive.
Well, to be fair this is a project from an individual, while the former examples mentioned have studios behind them. But still, this is not "the most incredible thing ever" imho
Iced_Eagle
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Very nice use of PBR materials by the artist. Can't wait for even more games to come out using this technique.
copelandmaster
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Version 1.2 has been posted to the author's website.
v1.2 is out
http://www.benoitdereau.com/UnrealParis_-_1.2.rar
Mirror: https://mega.co.nz/#!vhYgXRrR!I6S4orj9H0jMTll6ppdOVyVAW-flqy3woNa2aaPgQyI
1080p60 video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6PQ19BEE24
Here's the stuff in the ReadMeFirst.txt:
http://www.benoitdereau.com/UnrealParis_-_1.2.rar
Mirror: https://mega.co.nz/#!vhYgXRrR!I6S4orj9H0jMTll6ppdOVyVAW-flqy3woNa2aaPgQyI
1080p60 video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6PQ19BEE24
Here's the stuff in the ReadMeFirst.txt:
Rogue_Ledr
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HOLY PHOTOREALISM BATMAN!
Damn! Seeing stuff like this makes me wonder how far off true real life graphics are.
Damn! Seeing stuff like this makes me wonder how far off true real life graphics are.
Yeah this is probably the most impressive tech demo I've seen that has actually been released publicly (unless someone knows of one that is more impressive and can be downloaded).
The most impressive thing for me is the lighting. It looks very real and life like in my opinion. The textures and what not are also "mostly" impressive.
The only downside is the mirror reflections which strangely look the same as they did in the late 90s early 2000s. My question for GAF is, why do mirrors still look really bad in game engines today?
The most impressive thing for me is the lighting. It looks very real and life like in my opinion. The textures and what not are also "mostly" impressive.
The only downside is the mirror reflections which strangely look the same as they did in the late 90s early 2000s. My question for GAF is, why do mirrors still look really bad in game engines today?
Dictator93
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Real time reflections that are actually physically accurate are hard to do within the performance available even on the best GPUs.
How About No
Member
Been wanting to try this for days, now I have a chance!
KnockOneOff
Banned
Don't know why but I visioned Paris as in the city before walking around a room for a few mins lol
Very impressive would be interesting to see how things go with some phyisics and movements in there
Very impressive would be interesting to see how things go with some phyisics and movements in there
It would be neat to see an actual city scene of Paris with visuals like this but man that would be HARD to pull off with all the animations and people and cars, etc.
KnockOneOff
Banned
I honestly was waiting for them to open the doors to the view of the Eiffel tower and birds flying around or something lol
Insane Metal
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LOL I noticed that too! Stood out instantly.
As posted above, read the ReadMeFirst.txt.
The chromatic aberration is not visible in the DK2. Much like noise cancelling, the chromatic aberration is overlayed to cancel out the chromatic aberration generated by the high FOV lenses in the DK2.
Edit: Tried it in VR with my DK2. Looks very nice, and runs super smooth at 75fps, not a single stutter. But it has some glitches with the textures only showing on one eye.
How About No
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I tried the 1.2 .exe but it's not working for me :[
I've just tried the demo on my PC and I'm not really very impressed to be honest. UE4 demos always seem a bit blurry in motion to me (from a quick Google I think it's because of the Temporal AA, which everyone seems to be praising here?) and the reflections in the bathroom looked very odd (especially in and around the large mirror on the left in the bathroom, which seemed to change what it was reflecting as you got closer). The radiator at the start had some weird shimmering on the edges too. Couple these graphical issues with the lack of anything dynamic going on and the limited size of the map and I don't see how it can really be thought of as "incredible." It looks great in screenshots (pretty close to photorealistic in some shots), but quite poor in motion.
ThatsMytrunks
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I'm getting quad-renderings with this. Like both eyes have both viewports.
I wasn't very impressed either, it's just virtual room with nothing in it going on. "Most incredible thing"? Yeah okay.
On my 280X, according to fraps it was running at 48~58fps, but it seemed lower than that for some reason, closer to 30. It guess it bodes semi-decently well for upcoming UE4 games.