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[jhmtehgamr20xx]

Not to mention that had the cell actually taken off this may not have been as severe of an issue as it is now

I can't imagine a PS4 with Cell, it's an odd feeling now.

I get what you're saying though; too bad IBM and Toshiba messed that plan up.

 

[Clinton514]

Hmm wow. This is all I heard after reading those numbers:
http://youtu.be/VurA5nLRAQg?t=24s

E3 come soon.

 

[DieH@rd]

Does anyone knows if "All Other" includes sales of softwares like Sony Vegas, SoundForge, SpectraLayers and so on?
I'm happy to see they're doing good. Now I wish they gave up to Xperia and focus even more on what's left and I also wish they could focus on their editing software suite because it's remarkably good from many point of views but at the same time it feels old compared to competition. I'm personally very interested in the field and I know for sure they can do a lot more :\

I know that "All others" includes networking & medicine.

 

[vpance]

Stock is soaring, up 12.5%. Congrats to SNE holders

 

[Luke_Wal]

I take it the PS4 is dominating in Europe. With the Xbone beating PS4 in November and December in America, I would assume the huge sales gap comes in Europe, especially with how low console sales are in Europe.

 

[Jimmyfenix]

I take it the PS4 is dominating in Europe. With the Xbone beating PS4 in November and December in America, I would assume the huge sales gap comes in Europe, especially with how low console sales are in Europe.

Worldwide you mean

Middle East is also a big market for Sony

 

[GobFather]

Sony cellphone are awesome... they don't advertise it enough for people to care lol but good numbers overall.

 

[blastprocessor]

It goes without saying but Sony really need to push first party hard to get as many good quality titles out and on time. PS4 is pretty much first party for me and i'm hungry for more exclusive AAA.

 

[Javin98]

Damn, 20 million PS4's shipped?

Spoiler

(Yes, I rounded. Much easier that way )

And Sony is finally making a profit with stocks currently rising at 12.5%? I don't how this day could go any better for Sony.

And as an owner of a Z2, it's sad to see them struggling in the mobile division. The Z2 is an absolutely amazing phone. Great performance, great battery life and all. The only thing I haven't tried is PS4 Remote Play. Hope it'll be a wonderful experience

 

[darkwing]

Damn, 20 million PS4's shipped?

Spoiler

(Yes, I rounded. Much easier that way )

And Sony is finally making a profit with stocks currently rising at 12.5%? I don't how this day could go any better for Sony.

And as an owner of a Z2, it's sad to see them struggling in the mobile division. The Z2 is an absolutely amazing phone. Great performance, great battery life and all. The only thing I haven't tried is PS4 Remote Play. Hope it'll be a wonderful experience

they are struggling mightly in the middle/lower range market, their offerings are like double the price of their similarly specced competitors, just crazy

 

[Xando]

I take it the PS4 is dominating in Europe. With the Xbone beating PS4 in November and December in America, I would assume the huge sales gap comes in Europe, especially with how low console sales are in Europe.

Sony is basically dominating MS everywhere but the US and UK.

 

[Javin98]

they are struggling mightly in the middle/lower range market, their offerings are like double the price of their similarly specced competitors, just crazy

Yeah, now that you mention it, it is a pretty fucking crazy thing to do. I hope they don't abandon the mobile division entirely though. All they need is a big turn around and maybe it will eventually be profitable.

 

[qa_engineer]

This is ridiculous and I love it.

 

[Javin98]

Sony is basically dominating MS everywhere but the US and UK.

Bu..but...but... Microsoft said Europe was a country? Right? Right?

Spoiler

Kidding, obviously

 

[Bgamer90]

Sony is basically dominating MS everywhere but the US and UK.

Yep. Xbox One not having a head start like the 360 on top of MS' bad pre-launch period put the PS4 in a great position.

 

[Taurus]

Then why do people think that the WiiU is dead then?

Freedom wars, DR2, Oddworld Munch’s Oddysee HD, The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth, LEGO Batman Beyond Gotham, Tales of Hearts R, Senran Kagura: Bon Appetit!, Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA F 2nd, Demon Gaze, Minecraft. All of those are retail, except BOI, launched in the past 3-4 month. Before you try to define what´s big and what´s not, if any of those are not big, then neither is DK, nor Bayonetta 2. I am not even gonna start mention the avalanche of indie games, which i am not sure why they don´t seem to count, but whatever.

And yes RER is a big title, and it coming to other platforms does not make it less important. And how do you know about how the console, or Vita version run?

I didn't ask for niche games, but big games. You know, huge, must-have, console defining (usually exclusive) experiences. But, looking at your list I understand why people see Vita as a dead console.

Carry on.

 

[Jimmyfenix]

I am just happy that markets like the middle east are growing this gen.

 

[Kasper]

Man, sucks that the mobile division continues to do so poorly. I love my Xperia, it's a great phone

 

[sechsterangriff]

Frighteningly close to Vita sold-through in Europe.

You talk about Europe as if it's one market yet you seem to forget it's in fact composed many small markets. The European market is much more than UK+FR+GER. The Vita sales are actually not so horrible around here with cases such as Portugal and Spain where Vita actually sells very well, sometimes even outselling the 3DS. You hardly see any PSPs for sale anymore, though you can still find loads of games of the PSP Essentials line.

Also, SCE has a much bigger presence in territories around the world when compared to Nintendo.

The 17th should be fun.

That is in the future. Right now you only have "tales".

 

[BigDug13]

Yep. Xbox One not having a head start like the 360 on top of MS' bad pre-launch period put the PS4 in a great position.

Not to mention that this is the first time MS hasn't had the most powerful console for multiplats. There are gamers out there that don't want to fiddle with PC's and look for the best performing option. MS's biggest blunder to me this gen was gimping their own specs for the everything box. It's the one thing they can't 180 and the one area that is hugely important to get right. Their console works fine, but it's just not the MS hardware domination Xbox fans had enjoyed since MS entered the game.

 

[Javin98]

Considering the PS4 was at 18.5 million sold through at 31st December and it shipped 20 million at the same time

Spoiler

(rounded again)

, doesn't that mean there were ~1.5 million unsold PS4's in stores WW? Someone please correct me if wrong. Anyway, if this were really the case, I wouldn't be surprised if there were ~2 million XB1's in stores and warehouses WW. We do have evidence that Microsoft channel stuffed after all while Sony was trying to keep up with demand in Europe during the holiday season

 

[stonesak]

Microsoft will counter with Zombies Killed and Miles Driven.

Fixed.

 

[Elandyll]

I wonder how would even want to buy their mobile arm if they were looking to sell it.

They shouldn't.

After restructuration (me thinks they still suffer from structural problems stemming back from the times they were Sony-Ericsson), and if they can finally get the major EU/ US carriers like VZ and AT&T to carry their flagship phones (The Z3/ Z3c and the upcoming Z4/ Z4c), then the mobile division stands a good chance to be a major contributor.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/sony-xperi...east-5-feature-upgrades-over-xperia-z3-622384

Also, a 6 month refresh timeline is perhaps too much pressure on the R&D investment...

Imo, of course.

 

[pharmboy044]

Sony cellphone are awesome... they don't advertise it enough for people to care lol but good numbers overall.

I think I read somewhere that Samsung spent around $4 billion dollars on marketing just for brand awareness. No way Sony is willing to spend that icy to get their phones to the common folk.

 

[Concept17]

Incredibly well deserved. Grats to Sony.

 

[Deku Tree]

This is good news for PS4 right?

 

[Bgamer90]

Not to mention that this is the first time MS hasn't had the most powerful console for multiplats. There are gamers out there that don't want to fiddle with PC's and look for the best performing option. MS's biggest blunder to me this gen was gimping their own specs for the everything box. It's the one thing they can't 180 and the one area that is hugely important to get right. Their console works fine, but it's just not the MS hardware domination Xbox fans had enjoyed since MS entered the game.

True. I personally don't care about a system's specs position in a gen as long as its a big improvement over the previous gen (or else I wouldn't have loved the PS2) but it definitely is a first for the brand as you have stated.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

This is good news for PS4 right?

Yeah probably means more investment in Playstation to keep this train going.

 

[Welfare]

Considering the PS4 was at 18.5 million sold through at 31st December and it shipped 20 million at the same time

Spoiler

(rounded again)

, doesn't that mean there were ~1.5 million unsold PS4's in stores WW? Someone please correct me if wrong. Anyway, if this were really the case, I wouldn't be surprised if there were ~2 million XB1's in stores and warehouses WW. We do have evidence that Microsoft channel stuffed after all while Sony was trying to keep up with demand in Europe during the holiday season

Less than 18.5m as of December 31. 18.5m is as of January 4.

 

[Javin98]

Less than 18.5m as of December 31. 18.5m is as of January 4.

I don't think 4 days would make much of a difference..... 80K at most?

 

[Welfare]

I don't think 4 days would make much of a difference..... 80K at most?

Could be over 100k. 4 days is a long time for sales worldwide.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

True. I personally don't care about a system's specs position in a gen as long as its a big improvement over the previous gen (or else I wouldn't have loved the PS2) but it definitely is a first for the brand as you have stated.

Yep. It sucks that MS gimped the specs so much. I always root for the most powerful system. Last gen it was TECHNICALLY the PS3, but we all know that it required considerable work to get the most out of that consoles and it was ultimately only the first party titles that really shined.

 

[kitch9]

I don't think 4 days would make much of a difference..... 80K at most?

Lets say it is 1.5 million is in the sales channel, do you think that is a large number for an item that is selling so quickly worldwide?

 

[Xando]

I don't think 4 days would make much of a difference..... 80K at most?

Don't know about other countries but in germany jan. 1st is a holiday.

 

[XxRampage07xX]

Does anyone knows if "All Other" includes sales of softwares like Sony Vegas, SoundForge, SpectraLayers and so on?
I'm happy to see they're doing good. Now I wish they gave up to Xperia and focus even more on what's left and I also wish they could focus on their editing software suite because it's remarkably good from many point of views but at the same time it feels old compared to competition. I'm personally very interested in the field and I know for sure they can do a lot more :

I think it is very hard for them to give up the mobile division. We already see how big the loss was when they sold their less crucial and important Vaio laptop division. The lost would be even more massive if they attempted to sell off mobile division. So yeah, I guess the best they can do with mobile thing is cutting some staffs here and there, reducing R&D cost and readjusting their strategy. Even when that division is not making any profit, is still a big accomplishment.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

It goes without saying but Sony really need to push first party hard to get as many good quality titles out and on time. PS4 is pretty much first party for me and i'm hungry for more exclusive mid-tier games.

I agree

 

[Javin98]

Lets say it is 1.5 million is in the sales channel, do you think that is a large number for an item that is selling so quickly worldwide?

No, I never said that. I'm just guessing the number of XB1's in warehouses WW from the PS4 shipments. And from that, we can get a rough idea of the X1 sold through numbers.

Could be over 100k. 4 days is a long time for sales worldwide.

100K is still negligible in the grand scheme of things. What are you trying to prove?

 

[borghe]

Sony is basically dominating MS everywhere but the US and UK.

This is ONLY true (the except part) for xmas. outside of xmas, Sony was dominating MS in US and UK as well. Judging by Amazon sales charts for Jan and now Feb, it looks likely that Sony will be back to commanding a noticeable lead at least in America again.

PS4 ranked 9 for January
XBONE with AC was 20
No other console/bundle made the top 100

just checked amazon.co.uk
PS4 is 56 and 99
highest XBONE is 82 and 113

mean while all of january had PS4 at 34 and XBONE at 90.

So basically

Sony is basically dominating MS everywhere but the US and UK during the holidays.

edit - and yes it's just amazon.. I meant it as nothing more but a sample. Not going to guess any actual numbers off of it or anything.

 

[Welfare]

100K is still negligible in the grand scheme of things. What are you trying to prove?

Just saying it's less than 18.5m

 

[MikeHaggar]

good for sony. they really hit it out of the park with the ps4 as far as i'm concerned. this is the first generation where the playstation is my console of choice. they deserve the success.

 

[ethomaz]

Less than 18.5m as of December 31. 18.5m is as of January 4.

It is OVER 18.5m as of Jan 4.

 

[Oersted]

snip

You are correct, we have NDP numbers for Vita and based on that, it is dead in USA. Also, like soerrine pointed out, the shipment numbers of PSP and Vita were quite close last year in Europe.

With other words, canis lupus assumption that Vita continues to outsell WiiU, a statement based on the combined shipment figures of PSP and Vita, seems farfetched. That is all.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

So last we heard there was 18.5 million PS4s sold through to consumers. This is telling us that an additional 6.4 million were shipped to stores?

 

[Elandyll]

Sony is basically dominating MS everywhere but the US and UK.

Actually, aside from 2 months last year (just 1 for UK, November), the PS4 is dominating XB1 everywhere WW in both yearly and LTD with the exception of the markets where it's not sold in yet (China) and possibly where there are extraordinary circumstances (Brazil, but then again you'd have to account for the grey market).

 

[Alo0oy]

Not to mention that this is the first time MS hasn't had the most powerful console for multiplats. There are gamers out there that don't want to fiddle with PC's and look for the best performing option. MS's biggest blunder to me this gen was gimping their own specs for the everything box. It's the one thing they can't 180 and the one area that is hugely important to get right. Their console works fine, but it's just not the MS hardware domination Xbox fans had enjoyed since MS entered the game.

Multiplat graphics & performance were never a factor in any generation ever, why is it a factor now?

Multiplats sold best on PS2 in the 6th gen. In the seventh gen different genres sold best on different consoles regardless of the resolution and/or framerate. Even on this gen FPS games have higher attache rate on Xbone than PS4 despite the PS4's superior version.

 

[Acquiescence]

Cerny and Kutaragi really should be switched around in that gif.

 

[Respawn]

Oh my my my

 

[DC R1D3R]

So salt, much cry?

i come in peace brotha!

The return of the Sony.

Spoiler

Not really, they need to do a similar quarter consistently.

haha thanks!
and you know what? i wish them all the best!

 

[Welfare]

So last we heard there was 18.5 million PS4s sold through to consumers. This is telling us that an additional 6.4 million were shipped to stores?

13.5 million shipped to retailers as of September 30 2014

19.9 million shipped to retailers as of December 31 2014 (+6.4 million shipped)

>18.5 million sold to consumers as of January 4 2015

 

[Ascenion]

Not to mention that this is the first time MS hasn't had the most powerful console for multiplats. There are gamers out there that don't want to fiddle with PC's and look for the best performing option. MS's biggest blunder to me this gen was gimping their own specs for the everything box. It's the one thing they can't 180 and the one area that is hugely important to get right. Their console works fine, but it's just not the MS hardware domination Xbox fans had enjoyed since MS entered the game.

That won't knowingly happen again.