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The Order 1886 | Impressions Thread of not shooting the messenger.
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Wise words.
ThatGuyAgain
Member
I was starting to worry a bit but after the OP impressions, a huge sigh of relief! Pre-order is still in and I am ready.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Having not played it, the game does give me a Killzone 2 vibe just from what I've seen.
What I mean by that is the engine seems to have been built and tailored specifically for the art style they are going for, with a large focus on creating a cinematic/CG quality look to everything -- highly detailed, great IQ, and lots of post processing (motion blur, DOF, etc) combined with a somewhat muted and oppressive color palette.
And the gameplay mechanics seem to deliberately match the stark/oppressive nature of the art design -- visceral combat that packs a punch, great hit response, and unique weapons that still remain grounded.
This art style was somewhat lost on KZ3 and KZ:SF.
What I mean by that is the engine seems to have been built and tailored specifically for the art style they are going for, with a large focus on creating a cinematic/CG quality look to everything -- highly detailed, great IQ, and lots of post processing (motion blur, DOF, etc) combined with a somewhat muted and oppressive color palette.
And the gameplay mechanics seem to deliberately match the stark/oppressive nature of the art design -- visceral combat that packs a punch, great hit response, and unique weapons that still remain grounded.
This art style was somewhat lost on KZ3 and KZ:SF.
The thread is done talking about this. It's derailing.
And just for clarity sake, I wasn't even discussing the Order in particular, I was debating the guy who's now banned for calling people children for having a different opinion on "value" (again, nothing to do with Rapiers comment, I understood what he was saying).
Doesn't even have to apply to the Order, but thank you for chiming in, don't recall seeing you in any of the Order threads so I doubt you know my opinion on the game (not hard to find, it's already in every Order thread).
Not gonna respond to anything to do with that post anymore. Don't want this thread locked like the others.
I don't get that impression at all. I think it sounds like it does what it wants to well.
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
I wish I could articulate better how classy this game sounds, moves and looks.
The eerie, creeping strings, brass and all-male choir in the score softly pouring into your ears as you slowly walk through a warmly lit Victorian house and step out a window to the wet London rooftops at night...
Wow... *~*
The eerie, creeping strings, brass and all-male choir in the score softly pouring into your ears as you slowly walk through a warmly lit Victorian house and step out a window to the wet London rooftops at night...
Wow... *~*
This is the feeling I get too.
I would argue that it is not about length exactly but how much you play the game.
I have no issues paying 60 for something i will play 500 hours, even if the game is nowhere that long. Yet 60 for a game that i will play exactly once (for whatever reason), with campaign length of, say, 10h... yeah, not interested. If i'd play that multiple times, maybe then it is OK.
An improvement on what?
Raitosaito
Member
Isn't that the case with all new IPs
GarciaHotspur
Member
If we have the chance to get it...
Bornstellar
Member
How did you get the game early?
0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55
Banned
Seriously. I assume many of those posters have never taken their family to a two hour movie. A 60 dollar 8 hour game is a steal by comparison. Different strokes I suppose.
I'm personally excited for a story driven tps set in this alternate history era, with punchy gunplay, and equally visceral gore. Seems proper hardcore.
This sounds like... regular cover? What is curious about this?
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
It doesn't feel like uncharted or TLOU. It's very stylized to the point it feels different. Must be the camera placement and speed, as well the character animation.
Not sure. :/
It's also not super fast. It's more methodical than Uncharted, which is where the TLOU comparisons come in.
A little bird flew in one morning. ;3
Ok now you're just sounding like a marketing shill.
Could you elaborate more on what you were saying about the cover mechanics? From what you described it sounds like every other 3rd person cover shooter. Is it closer to Gears of War or Uncharted?
Also how is the combat handled in the game, is it straight up corridor shooter with cover or does it present combat arenas you can navigate around and pick different routes?
just everything. They had to make a engine for this game so now they have the time and resources to make a kick ass sequel.
It is very nice to see a AAA game that works as advertised and not broken. I am excited to play it.
tiny raptor
Member
I'm also curious about the re playability thing. Is there a large skill curve? What about the game makes you want to replay it?
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
hypeee. this is exactly what I've been looking for.
any new game+ options?
any new game+ options?
For one thing this game seems to be following the uncharted model. AFAIK the first uncharted was short and didn't have multiplayer. The second game expanded the scope in most conceivable directions.
Frankly I like the fact that they decided that if they couldn't do things like multiplayer right, they didn't do it.
Rapier, you seem quite keen on the gameplay yet 'by no means scarce' is a slightly worrying phrase.
Would you have liked more gameplay sections, or do you think the balance is about right for the kind of game it is setting out to be?
Also does this game make you excited for potential sequels or othe home console games from RAD?
Would you have liked more gameplay sections, or do you think the balance is about right for the kind of game it is setting out to be?
Also does this game make you excited for potential sequels or othe home console games from RAD?
I'd be surprised if they were, which is why I'm glad of impressions threads like this.
I tend to find a lot of reviews these days don't seem to see a lot of the qualities The Order appears to have as positives, rather you tend to see terms like "shallow" and "missed opportunity" thrown around if a full price retail game doesn't have a massive open world complete with collectathon or several multiplayer modes with a corresponding leveling system.
I have no problem at all with people that want that, but it seems as though people that want story-heavy single player cinematic experiences aren't well represented with reviews these days.
What exactly did you read to come to this conclusion?
Fingers crossed the game is applauded for what its trying to do and not criticized for what it didnt do.
I believe sales are gonna determine a sequel or not tbh. lets hope its a sleeper hit like heavy rain.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Vanquish like replayability? Watched the entire game on YT and I don't see this. Vanquish was made to be replayed over and over gain trying to best your times on levels, creating your own path to get your time down, so many routes or combat options. Could you expand on this some more?
Could you elaborate on what you meant by comparing it to Vanquish in it's replayability?
You say The Order is the height of cinematic gaming experiences. The most cinematic game I've ever played was Uncharted 2, and I loved every second of it, but I didn't get more than a couple of hours into a replay without losing interest. It was the ultimate 'one and done' game for me. How is The Order different in this regard?
You say The Order is the height of cinematic gaming experiences. The most cinematic game I've ever played was Uncharted 2, and I loved every second of it, but I didn't get more than a couple of hours into a replay without losing interest. It was the ultimate 'one and done' game for me. How is The Order different in this regard?
Freeman
Banned
I dont care if a reviewer destroys the game over having QTE ect. Some people fucking hate QTE. What I don't want are any mentions of "souls", "next gen gameplay", and saying button prompts are QTE.
Bornstellar
Member
Can you be more specific. Where did you buy the game?
How did the game give you this feedback? Rumble?
timetokill
Banned
I'd also love an explanation about the vanquish/replayability comments. It seems completely incongruous with the rest of the comments about the game.
I've got a question... Let's say I'm 8 chapters deep but I want to go back and play from one of the earlier chapters... Is there an option to do that? My roommate wants to watch me play it to see if he'd like it. I'm not going to wait around for him before I start but I'd really hate to spoil the story. Is that possible?
Yup. From what I've seen and read so far, this aspect is exactly like Uncharted 2. The only replayability hook, if any, is to relive the story and gameplay sequences. Like re-watching a good movie. I don't agree with the vanquish comparison either. If you want, you can try a different strategy and experiment with other weapons. But there isn't an additive experience or goal that the game explicitly offers as an incentive. It's the game itself. That's how I felt about all UC games and TLOU as well.