Mad Season
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"I Need a New PC!" 2015 Part 1. Read the OP and RISE ABOVE FORGED PRECISION SCIENCE
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Johnny Dazzle
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Need some help PC Gaffers, pretty sure my ASRock P67 Extreme 6 motherboard died this morning. These are my other current specs.
Intel i5 2500 @ 3.30Ghz
Radeon HD6950 1GB
Corsair HX-650 Power Supply
2x4GB DRR3
Windows 8.1 64 Bit
I'm pretty un PC part savvy, but would I be able to replace the P67 with a new motherboard and continue on my way? Or would things get messy and require a more substantial replacement job? Much thanks!
Intel i5 2500 @ 3.30Ghz
Radeon HD6950 1GB
Corsair HX-650 Power Supply
2x4GB DRR3
Windows 8.1 64 Bit
I'm pretty un PC part savvy, but would I be able to replace the P67 with a new motherboard and continue on my way? Or would things get messy and require a more substantial replacement job? Much thanks!
You'd have to find a discontinued socket 1155 motherboard. Not impossible, just up to you. might be better served to sell the 2500 (is it non-k?) and upgrade.
It's done. I originally had a target budget of $1000...that went belly up fairly quickly.
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Red 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($150.79 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($199.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.92 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($328.99 @ Directron)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case ($131.36 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($132.23 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.75 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1457.77
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Red 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($150.79 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($199.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.92 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($328.99 @ Directron)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case ($131.36 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($132.23 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.75 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1457.77
CommandThrower
Member
Greetings again, PC GAF. I'm looking to upgrade my video card soon. I've currently got a Nvidia GTX 550 Ti. I've been using that for about three years, and I'd like to upgrade.
I originally had my eyes on the GTX 960, but I'm hearing a lot of conflicting reports about the thing, saying it's not worth using. The way I see it, is that it's a direct upgrade in every way to my GTX 550 Ti.
Current specs other than the video card:
ASRock B75M-ITX motherboard
Intel i5-2500 @ 3.30Ghz
2x4GB DDR3
Cooler Master ATX12V V2.01(oldest part of my rig. Should probably upgrade but haven't done so yet. It's been working good for over six years now)
Windows 7 64 bit
Based on those specs, I guess you could say I'm not a big time PC gamer, but I do want to upgrade my old card. My goal is to run Mortal Kombat X at max settings without any issue. With this in mind, should I consider a different card other than a GTX 960?
I originally had my eyes on the GTX 960, but I'm hearing a lot of conflicting reports about the thing, saying it's not worth using. The way I see it, is that it's a direct upgrade in every way to my GTX 550 Ti.
Current specs other than the video card:
ASRock B75M-ITX motherboard
Intel i5-2500 @ 3.30Ghz
2x4GB DDR3
Cooler Master ATX12V V2.01(oldest part of my rig. Should probably upgrade but haven't done so yet. It's been working good for over six years now)
Windows 7 64 bit
Based on those specs, I guess you could say I'm not a big time PC gamer, but I do want to upgrade my old card. My goal is to run Mortal Kombat X at max settings without any issue. With this in mind, should I consider a different card other than a GTX 960?
Johnny Dazzle
Member
It was a 2500k, my mistake.
I'm getting the impression that a motherboard + CPU upgrade my be in order. Yet with that in mind the graphics card could probably do with attention as well.
Are these things achievable with a $500-600 AU budget PC Gaf?
HarryDemeanor
Member
My ASRock Z77 board has been going on strong. It's pretty good for a budget board but if you have the money you'll probably want the bigger brands.
longdi
Banned
Just a PSA, Asus and MSI are releasing revised boards with USB3.1 hardware, in a few more weeks, so if you are not urgently wanting to build your PC, may as well wait for 'dat USB3.1.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Mother...erformance-Motherboards-and-Add-Card-Incoming
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Mother...erformance-Motherboards-and-Add-Card-Incoming
Ehh, some good, some bad. Their motherboards sell for a decently low price so they're competitive. Their Z87, Z97, and X99 models are fine.
And here's some of the bad. Did you get an ASRock Z77 motherboard? Those should be avoided due to incorrectly reported CPU voltages. The hardware voltage readings are actually higher than reported by the motherboard via BIOS and software, and apparently affects most if not all ASRock Z77 models. They still work, but running blind without knowing exactly how much voltage the CPU is getting, especially when overclocking, is not a good idea.
Why not just go Z97? I wonder if that Z87 motherboard comes with BIOS revision high enough to support the 4790K out of the box. I just looked at your other post, there's a lot of places you can cut costs. For example, is a DVD drive really needed?
Here's what I'd recommend:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($100.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB Twin Frozr Video Card ($549.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $960.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-21 23:50 EST-0500
PCPartPicker doesn't have the 360 controller in its database, so everything that isn't listed here you will need to procure yourself.
HarryDemeanor
Member
Well then. Looks like I'll be cautious in the future with my motherboard.
Yeah, that's fine. Nothing wrong with Western Digital, Toshiba, or Hitachi/HGST.
550 and 540? Do you mean 850 and 840? And do you mean Evo or Pro? The 850 Evo should be fine to get. If anything, it shouldn't have the performance issues that plagued the 840 Evo.
What's your budget for an upgrade, $200?
The GTX 960 has been disappointing in that it's not as high performance as most people expected a successor to the GTX 760 to be. Some people are still hoping that there will be a "GTX 960 Ti". The GTX 960 performs about on par with the R9 285, but costs a bit more. The older R9 280X can be had for about the same price as a GTX 960, but has more raw performance and VRAM (3GB vs 2GB).
I'd recommend this Sapphire R9 280X 3GB ($193 after rebates and promo code) instead of the GTX 960.
I'd normally recommend a 4690K and a Z97 motherboard, but that's currently out of your price range by a little bit. Looks like a non-overclocking i5 processor with a cheaper motherboard will have to do. What retailers are you located near? Is there a NCIX or Memory Express nearby?
If it's not too much trouble, check out the core voltages by multimeter if you can. Unintentionally feeding your processor 1.5 volts may lead to having to replace the CPU and motherboard early, if you get what I mean.
Mad Season
Banned
woops yes, I meant 850
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OBRE5UE/?tag=neogaf0e-20
seems good for a desktop and gaming,no?
HarryDemeanor
Member
I haven't performed an overclock to my 3570k since I built my PC. Knowing this now kinda makes me glad I didn't or else I'd be on the market for a new cpu and mobo during the last three years.
Randolph Freelander
Member
I bought a new laptop, runs Windows 8.1. My old laptop has Windows 7. I'm trying to transfer files, and apparentlty "Windows Easy Transfer" is right useless on 8.1, so I'm just trying to push files from the one machine to the other over my home network, and therein lies the problem: it's slow!
I have ~130 GB of files to transfer, and I'm right now just trying to transfer ~12.4GB of it. The estimated time to completion of this first bit: 23 hours.
What gives, and is there anything I can do to speed this up? Let's assume I have no external drives of any sort.
I tried a cursory search of this thread on the keyword "transfer," and found nothing useful, so I apologize if this is already covered. If it is, a link would be awesome.
I have ~130 GB of files to transfer, and I'm right now just trying to transfer ~12.4GB of it. The estimated time to completion of this first bit: 23 hours.
What gives, and is there anything I can do to speed this up? Let's assume I have no external drives of any sort.
I tried a cursory search of this thread on the keyword "transfer," and found nothing useful, so I apologize if this is already covered. If it is, a link would be awesome.
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Nope, overclocked to 4.6GHz since I got it.
If they're wireless, try making the connection wired?
What are you trying to transfer? Tbh I almost feel like you should just buy a 32GB USB drive or something and use that to transfer stuff. Or burn a bunch of DVD's haha.
woops yes, I meant 850
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OBRE5UE/?tag=neogaf0e-20
seems good for a desktop and gaming,no?
Looks like a solid choice to me. If you want to save a bit of money, there is the new Crucial BX100 500GB for $180. For a "budget" drive it actually performed extremely well, PCPer gave it praise in their review. The Samsung 850 Evo is also included in the test results there.
In the end the 850 Evo has the better numbers, but $25 is decent savings for a performance difference I won't be able to notice from daily use.
Randolph Freelander
Member
114 GB of it is music, so that leaves 16 GB of miscellaneous other, which is going to mostly be documents and programming files. If I have to go buy something, I will, but I was hoping to make this wireless transfer a bit more useful since there's no perceivable reason it should average ~220 KB/sec, which is what it's doing right now.
We'll have to figure out some specs, like what wireless chipsets your laptops have and what router you have. Honestly, I sort of doubt there's something wrong with your wireless connection, transferring 130GB over the air is usually not very fast, especially lots of small files. It's probably just a case of random VS sequential I/O. Whatever your wireless speeds are rated for don't guarantee how quickly drives are read and written to.
Give it a try with a steady hand and patience. I fixed a MSI P55 motherboard that way, although with fewer bent pins. I used a very small needle to do it. Even if a pin breaks off, you may still be alright as long as it's a VSS (ground) pin, although it may be hard to tell (start at page 112 of that document, scroll down to the tables to refer to the number column and row code).
Randolph Freelander
Member
Thanks for the feedback. I'll have to do some digging, and hardware, devices, and networking aren't my area of expertise. All I know is I had no problems transferring data from desktop-to-desktop in 2004, but transferring from that second desktop to a laptop in 2009 was terrible (ended up buying an external hard drive, and that has been misplaced in the 3 moves I've done since then) and this new laptop is experiencing same horribleness.
The only thing I can think is that I believe the 2004 transfer was done over wired connections. Heck, I'd need to buy another ethernet cable if I'd want to test even that. :/
CommandThrower
Member
I appreciate the help! I have to be honest though, those AMD cards are really big. The card you recommended me is 12.13" x 4.25". My rig is not much bigger than that. Like, here's a picture with a measurement: http://i.imgur.com/ruyUBaN.jpg
There's a mishmash of cables near the end of the case: http://i.imgur.com/t27IIyQ.jpg. While I'm pretty sure the cables can just be squeezed out of the way, that card will be a tight fit.
Since you brought up the R9 280, this particular ASUS card seems good, and it's only a tad bit bigger than my current card. It's currently out of stock...but, I'm not looking to buy a new card immediately. Just sometime before April.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Update: these laptops have gigabit ethernet, and I learned you can directly connect them without a crossover cable. I took my cable connecting my cable modem and router, and now files are flying, relatively speaking, at almost 9 MB/s. This solves my issue for now.
What case do you have?
CommandThrower
Member
I've got a Fractal Design Node 304. I'm quite fond of it. The Sapphire card should fit, but it'll be a tight fit.
ShaggsMagoo
Member
Hola PC gaf, I got a question. I will be upgrading my PC monitor fairly soonish and am looking for something in the 27 inch range. From what I have been reading a 144hz monitor would be best although I am not that experienced in these kind of things. I don't want to spend over $300, but can be a little flexible. Does anyone have any suggestions?
I should have asked you sooner, you seem to have left out what model of power supply you have. We should know what wattage it is capable of before recommending any graphics cards, actually. In general the R9 280X will draw up to 250 watts, a 500 watt power supply or better is needed, the link recommends 550 watts.
I'd still recommend you go for the R9 280X instead of the R9 280 if you can. That $193 Sapphire R9 280X is actually at a very good price as other R9 280X models retail for around $230 and more. Paying $200 for that Asus R9 280 is overpriced when other R9 280 models can be had for about $160.
I'm wondering, what games do you play and what sort of performance do you want to get?
CommandThrower
Member
I included my power supply a few posts back. I'll direct link it this time. It's an old Cooler Master power supply. It's got 500 watts, and it's served me well for about six years. I could stand to get a new power supply, but I suppose I haven't needed to. If this new card demands a newer and better power supply, then I'll get one too.
In regards to the games question, I play a lot of different stuff. In general, I aim for the games I play on PC to be able to play at a stable 60 frames per second on high settings--not max/ultra settings. Sometimes the games I buy just can't be played on that standard; three examples are Bioshock Infinite, Witcher 2 and Wolfenstein: The New Order. Wolfenstein actually played the best out of those three, Witcher 2 plays the worst; even at the absolute lowest settings. A more recent example is Grey Goo, that's a game that doesn't perform well on my rig despite the recommended settings, and I'd like it to be better.
I made my current rig for Bioshock Infinite, and now I want to upgrade my video card for Mortal Kombat X--I'm aiming for it to play at a stable 60 FPS at high settings.
I do appreciate all the help, by the way!
Sorry, just had to make sure what model power supply you had, as "ATX12V V2.01" is not a model number and only refers to the fact that it's a regular computer power supply. From the link you gave me, I was able to find out that it's the Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 500 watt model, or at least very similar. Unfortunately, that power supply is not very good, two different reviews gave it a failing mark for poor quality (HardOCP and Hardware Secrets). Also, it only has a single 6 pin GPU power cable - if you kept the power supply, you would need to use GPU power cable adaptors with other graphics cards (except for something more efficient like the GTX 960), and those power cable adaptors aren't recommended.
I recommend you upgrade the power supply, especially for a graphics card upgrade. You still haven't mentioned a budget, so I'll assume you have somewhere around $200 to spend on both the graphics card and power supply. In that case, it looks like you will be looking at the R9 280 (not the 280X) and a 550~650 watt power supply. I recommend the following for just about $200 after rebates, hopefully you don't mind rebates.
XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation ($165 after $30 rebate) | HardOCP's review gave it a gold award, while Bit-Tech's review said it was affordable, quiet, and effective.
EVGA 600B 600 watt PSU ($35 after $20 rebate) | Alright budget-level power supply, not very high quality but passes the bar adequately. The cheapest model I can recommend. Techpower found it decent but somewhat lacking.
If you don't mind paying about $15 more, consider this 650 watt power supply instead, it is inexpensive yet very good quality, and will comfortably support just about any future single graphics card upgrade.
XFX TS 650 watt PSU ($52 after $20 rebate) | This XFX power supply is actually made by Seasonic, one of the best power supply manufacturers there are. Jonny Guru rated it very highly in his review.
I find it odd that you couldn't run those 4 games very well. Your PC as it is seems to meet the minimum or recommended specs easily. For playing games at 1080p and 60FPS, I'd recommend something like the R9 290 which currently are about $270 at the cheapest, but have dipped as low as $240 in recent months. You might be better served by holding off for now and saving a bit more money - AMD's R9 3xx line is due out in the next month or two, the R9 280/280X could be replaced or drop in price, or you may be able to get an R9 290 for cheaper.
Not worth an upgrade then.
Careful. That xfx is too big for the node 304.
CommandThrower
Member
Thanks again for all the info, I will definitely buy a new power supply. My budget(for a video card) is $200, and you've given me some good options. But...
...this goes back to my initial concern regarding the AMD video cards--or at least the ones that I've been recommended so far; they just seem to be too big for my case. They might fit, but I don't know if that's *guaranteed*. That ASUS card from before and the earlier Sapphire card I think are guaranteed fits, just because they're about half an inch bigger than my current card.
Still, that Sapphire card is a solid option. You've given me some good choices to ponder in the next month or so.
zeroeffect
Member
Haven't posted here in awhile...was hoping you guys could help with something. Built a new PC few months back, been great. On 2 small occasions when I boot my PC up from a cold boot it will load Windows 8 and go to a black screen with no display. Since I built this in October it only did this twice and they were months apart...so I'm not sure what to think of this. Last one was a few weeks back. I didn't think much of it until I started playing SWTOR. Every now and then I get a random driver crash in that game where my display drivers have to recover. The screen will often go to a solid color, shows the SWTOR loading, and then recovers. On one instance it went to a black screen where I had to reboot the PC.
I googled this problem and it seems to be something that was never fixed in the game and specifically on 980 drivers it appears to be a problem. The issue is I'm confused because when I play other games like Dragon Age Inquisition I haven't noticed a single issue....so I'm not sure if it's hardware related or specifically to the game. It has me worried I might have a persistent hardware problem and I'm leaning to possibly GPU.
I can't seem to replicate the problem in any other game though and these are really the only 2 problems that have cropped up since I built it in October. Thoughts?
i7 4790k
EVGA ACX 2.0 980
16GB RAM
Is it possible that RAM could be causing display drivers to crash at all? I speculate that I might have a bad RAM stick based on the 2 issues I've had with it booting up to Windows and going black. I'm thinking GPU or memory. Possibly PSU too? Thanks.
I googled this problem and it seems to be something that was never fixed in the game and specifically on 980 drivers it appears to be a problem. The issue is I'm confused because when I play other games like Dragon Age Inquisition I haven't noticed a single issue....so I'm not sure if it's hardware related or specifically to the game. It has me worried I might have a persistent hardware problem and I'm leaning to possibly GPU.
I can't seem to replicate the problem in any other game though and these are really the only 2 problems that have cropped up since I built it in October. Thoughts?
i7 4790k
EVGA ACX 2.0 980
16GB RAM
Is it possible that RAM could be causing display drivers to crash at all? I speculate that I might have a bad RAM stick based on the 2 issues I've had with it booting up to Windows and going black. I'm thinking GPU or memory. Possibly PSU too? Thanks.
opticalmace
Member
Do you need to reapply thermal paste over time?
My 2500K hits mid-high 60s at 1.3V (4.3GHz), just curious if those temps are a tad high. I have a Hyper 212+ cooler.
My 2500K hits mid-high 60s at 1.3V (4.3GHz), just curious if those temps are a tad high. I have a Hyper 212+ cooler.
longdi
Banned
Need to state your ambient room temps and what type of loads that reaches mid-60s?
Objectively Bad Opinion
Member
It might be your GPU. Luckily, you have another GPU to test with. Install Intel's drivers and enable the iGPU, use it for a day or so just to rule your 980 out.
Or if you have another video card, using that might be less painful
opticalmace
Member
Ambient is ~23C, 100% load.
Hm, I think I last cleaned it out in the fall (with compressed air). I haven't changed the paste since I got it about 3.5 years ago.
Hi guys, i need a new desktop pc. Mostly game. No overclock
My choices:
i5 4690k
gigabyte z97x-sli
evga sc 2.0 gtx 970
cm hyper 212 evo
corsair 4 gb *2 vengeance
corsair spec 01-red led
corsair vs 650
and ssd
or
i5 4690k
msi z97 gaming 3
msi gaming gtx 970
cm hyper 212 evo
corsair 4 gb *2 vengeance
corsair spec 01-red led
corsair vs 650
and ssd
But i cant decide which one i choose evga gpu+ gigabyte mobo or msi mobo+msi gpu
I have dell u2414h 1080 monitor.
I'm living in Turkey. So prices are very high 1 dollar =2.5 Turkish Liras
Max 1000 dolar.
Thanks.
My choices:
i5 4690k
gigabyte z97x-sli
evga sc 2.0 gtx 970
cm hyper 212 evo
corsair 4 gb *2 vengeance
corsair spec 01-red led
corsair vs 650
and ssd
or
i5 4690k
msi z97 gaming 3
msi gaming gtx 970
cm hyper 212 evo
corsair 4 gb *2 vengeance
corsair spec 01-red led
corsair vs 650
and ssd
But i cant decide which one i choose
evga gpu+ gigabyte mobo or msi mobo+msi gpuI have dell u2414h 1080 monitor.
I'm living in Turkey. So prices are very high
1 dollar =2.5 Turkish Liras Max 1000 dolar.
Thanks.
longdi
Banned
If its 100% load with 23c ambient, it looks fine or at least you dont face system shutdown due to overheating, no?
If it is just gaming, than yeah its a bit hotter than norm.
Taking out the heatsink, re-applying a new layer of TIM and cleaning your case insides is a quick 30mins job either way.
longdi
Banned
Hi guys, i need a new desktop pc. Mostly game. No overclock
My choices:
i5 4690k
gigabyte z97x-sli
evga sc 2.0 gtx 970
cm hyper 212 evo
corsair 4 gb *2 vengeance
corsair spec 01-red led
corsair vs 650
and ssd
or
i5 4690k
msi z97 gaming 3
msi gaming gtx 970
cm hyper 212 evo
corsair 4 gb *2 vengeance
corsair spec 01-red led
corsair vs 650
and ssd
But i cant decide which one i choose
I have dell u2414h 1080 monitor.
I'm living in Turkey. So prices are very high
Max 1000 dolar.
Thanks.
I think the first consideration is how good is giga/evga/msi support in turkey?
Other than that, both boards used intel chipset and are perfectly fine these days. Although from past, giga uses good components but their bios is abit flaky while msi bios tends be simpler and more stable but uses a mix of analog/digital component hence less precise tweaking. Not sure about their later z-series.
Please also be advise msi will be re-releasing new z-series motherboards with usb3.1 support in the coming weeks. Could pay to wait it out.
Let's see what I got:
I'm running a laptop from 2009 ($600~$700, Exotic PC, Compal FORCE). This has a:
Intel Core 2 Duo (Mobile) Penryn T8100 @ 2.1 Ghz
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 512 Mb.
This thing can actually get 60FPS on Devil May Cry 4 reliably when set up correctly.
At the same time, it apparently doesn't hit the minimum specs for some newer games like MGS: Rising. Oddly enough, the CPU in this thing is removable, but I don't believe the GPU is, so I'm considering upgrading.
Not sure if I should get another laptop, or a desktop. I may be going to grad school soon, in which case I'll need a laptop; I should probably wait till I find out. That said, any recommendations on what I should be thinking about now?
I'm running a laptop from 2009 ($600~$700, Exotic PC, Compal FORCE). This has a:
Intel Core 2 Duo (Mobile) Penryn T8100 @ 2.1 Ghz
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 512 Mb.
This thing can actually get 60FPS on Devil May Cry 4 reliably when set up correctly.
At the same time, it apparently doesn't hit the minimum specs for some newer games like MGS: Rising. Oddly enough, the CPU in this thing is removable, but I don't believe the GPU is, so I'm considering upgrading.
Not sure if I should get another laptop, or a desktop. I may be going to grad school soon, in which case I'll need a laptop; I should probably wait till I find out. That said, any recommendations on what I should be thinking about now?
Sorry, I started writing that post initially intending to recommend this XFX 550 watt power supply ($49) which is 140mm long just like your Cooler Master 500 Watt model and the EVGA 600B. Then I saw the XFX 650 watt model for only a few dollars difference, and rewrote the post for that PSU without considering that it'd be a different size, I guess I missed some critical thinking when I wrote that post at about 4am local time for me.
Fractal officially says that power supplies greater in length than 160mm would interfere with the power supply. The EVGA 600B and the XFX 550 watt model should be short enough to fit with a long graphics card like the above-mentioned Sapphire R9 280X and XFX R9 280, I think Fractal would have accounted for the power cables coming out of the PSU.
I won't lie, as I have recommended, the parts will be a tight fit, but that comes with the size of the case. For the sort of performance you want at a cheaper price level, large graphics cards are the norm. That said, I wouldn't consider the Asus simply because it is expensive. An R9 280 that costs as much as another R9 280X? Not a good buy.
How about this Sapphire R9 280 Dual-X ($173 after $20 rebate) as a compromise? It's cheaper than the Asus, and shorter at 261mm (10.31 inches).
What are the price difference between the two choices?Hi guys, i need a new desktop pc. Mostly game. No overclock
My choices:
i5 4690k
gigabyte z97x-sli
evga sc 2.0 gtx 970
cm hyper 212 evo
corsair 4 gb *2 vengeance
corsair spec 01-red led
corsair vs 650
and ssd
or
i5 4690k
msi z97 gaming 3
msi gaming gtx 970
cm hyper 212 evo
corsair 4 gb *2 vengeance
corsair spec 01-red led
corsair vs 650
and ssd
But i cant decide which one i choose
I have dell u2414h 1080 monitor.
I'm living in Turkey. So prices are very high
Max 1000 dolar.
Thanks.
Be careful, the Corsair Carbide Spec-01 is said to only fit CPU coolers for 150mm height or smaller, while the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo is 159mm tall. Vortez's review of the Corsair Carbide Spec-01 said they were barely about to fit the 158mm tall Noctua NH-U12P and that larger coolers would be a struggle to fit.
evga+gigabyte moba version is cheaper approx 10 dolar.
I need to change to case then. Thanks!
Is there a specific retailer you're using for your parts? Do they have a website?
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