Poor Haloes, what have they done to you?
Haha yea, still though... as nasty as that sounds, it's up to them how they monetize their own product. I'd rather they take the cosmetic route, but whatever.
Poor Haloes, what have they done to you?
I know nothing about this project. Will this be the only version that is getting released or are newer versions planned, once Microsoft releases the updates to the official version?
This will really strip any customers away from the official release in Russia. Why would anyone play that one when they can get this? And people are supporting this?
Now THIS I can see Microsoft getting pissy over.https://campaign.evolvehq.com/
Check out that flow of cash donations:
And the players on Evolve's own app:
Because this doesn't have any of the other new weapons, perks, armor or abilities.
That's how they are making their money and all that is absent in the current nodded version.
So if anyone wants to play that they can play the Russian version, but you also have to pay for that stuff too.
So right now no one is taking money away because all the stuff you have to pay for isn't even there.
Now THIS I can see Microsoft getting pissy over.
https://campaign.evolvehq.com/
Check out that flow of cash donations:
And the players on Evolve's own app:
Isn't this basically piracy and theft?
Profiteering off others work under the guise of 'restoring justice'?
Seems legit.
This is what happens when the word free becomes so abused with marketing double-speak.
Only the free parts of a free-to-play game have released here but its still considered piracy and theft. I don't know the legal basis for any of this, for or against, but it feels a little ironic, and on its face no worse than running an ad-blocker in your web browser.
Profiteering off others work under the guise of 'restoring justice'?
Seems legit.
This is literally the first version that supports online multiplayer.
Expanding upon this version, they will likely be adding in weapon skins and the other various things that aren't currently enabled yet.
Also, do you really want perks and abilities? This version feels like Halo 3, and I'm certain they'll be keeping it that way for the better.
I'm supporting the version of the game that I can play. I wanted to be able to play Halo 3 on PC for the past 8 years, and now I can.
I would have even settled for Halo: MCC if not for all of the issues at launch. I don't care if they're fixed now. Too little, too late. I gave them $300 for a console, and $60 for a game that wasn't fixed until several months after launch. I'm not supporting 343i anymore than I already have. The game still has performance issues I'm not willing to tolerate, and the way they've mistreated the Forge community is awful.
Like I said, I'm supporting whatever version I can play, and unfortunately for Microsoft and Saber, that's the version that everybody else is considering piracy. I don't care if you consider it piracy, I understand where you're coming from in that regard. But telling me I shouldn't be supporting this is ridiculous.
Microsoft is the one that's mishandling this entire thing. They haven't spoken up regarding anything that's happened since it leaked. They've been trying to shut everything down, but they can't. It's too late for them to fix this, and what they should be learning from this is that they should just give us a complete release of MCC for $60. What they're probably going to do is continue with the release of Halo: Online, and when that flops because we already have this, they're not going to give us anything.
Microsoft forced our hand. And they're continuing to do so by ignoring us after everything that's happened.
Did you really just use the term "xbox-720" unironically? Really?*releases as broken as the X-box 720 release*
"Nah, we're cool with your pre-Alpha Halo 3-but-not-really release. We good."
This entire situation is extremely gross. Even removing the dev team's logo. Ugh...Profiteering off others work under the guise of 'restoring justice'?
Seems legit.
And after this people will wonder why MS aren't porting Halo to PC. This one isn't even out and it's pirated already. Good job guys.
Piracy didn't stop them from releasing the first two Halo games on PC.And after this people will wonder why MS aren't porting Halo to PC. This one isn't even out and it's pirated already. Good job guys.
Profiteering off others work under the guise of 'restoring justice'?
Seems legit.
This entire situation is extremely gross. Even removing the dev team's logo. Ugh...
i wish there was a master gaming ethics thread so people can take their moral superiority crap in there and leave other threads alone
this is looking promising, i will give it a go in few days
So?
Oh, I see what this thread is.
But why are you guys still in here if all you're going to do is tell us what we're doing is wrong? We don't really care.
I'm playing Halo 3 on PC.
Wait. We're not talking about the same thing I think. This is Evolve app's website, not the ElDewrito or whatever. Evolve is a tunneling/party service for PC games in the vein of Xbox Connect, XLink Kai, Tunngle, Hamachi, etc. etc.
By this logic every console exclusive from every company should be released on PC. Since they're not, these companies have obviously decided that console sales/subscription services/brand image are more important than PC port sales.Microsoft should have simply released the MCC collection on PC and make a shit ton of money instead of bothering with this F2P garbage.
Not everyone (what a shocker I know !) is interested in the Xbox One so no lost sale.
Isn't this basically piracy and theft?
Didn't know there was a rule against this until seeing the GoT thread in OT.So, to be clear, you're admitting to playing a pirated game right now and you don't care who knows it?
Huh...
Moral super---?? You know devs are on gaf right? I hope the mods are watching this thread.
So, to be clear, you're admitting to playing a pirated game right now and you don't care who knows it?
Huh...
If you play a f2p online-only game off of that game's servers then yes, you are pirating it. I don't see how anyone can think otherwise.So to be clear, you are implying that people who play this modified release of a unreleased region locked free2play game are pirates?
I don't have skin in the game either way, but yourself along with rest of the moral super police in this thread are equally on some high horse. 'Neither group is being objective, and the only thing your side of the argument is doing is shitting up a perfectly interesting thread.
Halo: Online doesn't have any servers yet.If you play a f2p online-only game off of that game's servers then yes, you are pirating it. I don't see how anyone can think otherwise.
Halo: Online doesn't have any servers yet.But but but ... It's in Russia so it doesn't count! Or something like that, based on the convoluted pro-piracy argument here.
Microsoft should have simply released the MCC collection on PC and make a shit ton of money instead of bothering with this F2P garbage.
Not everyone (what a shocker I know !) is interested in the Xbox One so no lost sale.
But but but ... It's in Russia so it doesn't count! Or something like that, based on the convoluted pro-piracy argument here.If you play a f2p online-only game off of that game's servers then yes, you are pirating it. I don't see how anyone can think otherwise.
By this logic every console exclusive from every company should be released on PC. Since they're not, these companies have obviously decided that console sales/subscription services/brand image are more important than PC port sales.
“[Fable Legends] is just the first of our first-party games that will be coming to Windows 10, and we’ll have more to announce,” said Spencer
So that's to keep the old Halo PC games online? CE and 2?
My mistake if that's the case. Wasn't inmeditaely clear that's what it was for.
This is literally the first version that supports online multiplayer.
Expanding upon this version, they will likely be adding in weapon skins and the other various things that aren't currently enabled yet.
Also, do you really want perks and abilities? This version feels like Halo 3, and I'm certain they'll be keeping it that way for the better.
I'm supporting the version of the game that I can play. I wanted to be able to play Halo 3 on PC for the past 8 years, and now I can.
I would have even settled for Halo: MCC if not for all of the issues at launch. I don't care if they're fixed now. Too little, too late. I gave them $300 for a console, and $60 for a game that wasn't fixed until several months after launch. I'm not supporting 343i anymore than I already have. The game still has performance issues I'm not willing to tolerate, and the way they've mistreated the Forge community is awful.
Like I said, I'm supporting whatever version I can play, and unfortunately for Microsoft and Saber, that's the version that everybody else is considering piracy. I don't care if you consider it piracy, I understand where you're coming from in that regard. But telling me I shouldn't be supporting this is ridiculous.
Microsoft is the one that's mishandling this entire thing. They haven't spoken up regarding anything that's happened since it leaked. They've been trying to shut everything down, but they can't. It's too late for them to fix this, and what they should be learning from this is that they should just give us a complete release of MCC for $60. What they're probably going to do is continue with the release of Halo: Online, and when that flops because we already have this, they're not going to give us anything.
Microsoft forced our hand. And they're continuing to do so by ignoring us after everything that's happened.
watHow did Microsoft force your hand? Do you have a doctor's note saying if you don't play Halo then you will contract ebola?
You can't buy stuff from them game if you lived outside of RU anyways. Its a Russian only game.It is absolutely worse because these players are not apart of the official community. Whether they planned to purchase the paid add-ons or not they added to the online user base.
As I understand it, the software was freely available on the official website. As I understand it, the "modders" have simply reversed engineered dll calls in order to enable dormant code from Halo3 which was included in said freely available release.If you play a f2p online-only game off of that game's servers then yes, you are pirating it. I don't see how anyone can think otherwise.
If that community finds that the for-profit elements of the game in the Russian version compelling that option exists. This project (and again, I don't know the legality of it) doesn't use the Halo Online servers, won't get official updates, and doesn't have the pay-to-win elements so its not piracy of the service.It is absolutely worse because these players are not apart of the official community. Whether they planned to purchase the paid add-ons or not they added to the online user base.
So to be clear, you are implying that people who play this modified release of a unreleased region locked free2play game are pirates?
I don't have skin in the game either way, but yourself along with rest of the moral super police in this thread are equally on some high horse. 'Neither group is being objective, and the only thing your side of the argument is doing is shitting up a perfectly interesting thread.
Halo: Online doesn't have any servers yet.
So if the company's business model is selling the game for $60 the audience can just go ahead and steal it in your opinion?If that community finds that the for-profit elements of the game in the Russian version compelling that option exists. This project (and again, I don't know the legality of it) doesn't use the Halo Online servers, won't get official updates, and doesn't have the pay-to-win elements so its not piracy of the service.
The client, which runs on a user's system, has been disassociated from its official servers and its premium elements and made available for tinkering. If that's enough to destroy the model this game was going to run with, that seems like an inherent risk in taking that approach, not some evil being done to it.
But I may be biased in that I don't see how an audience holds any responsibility to protect a company's business model.