giancarlo123x
Banned
Me either. But let's all get mad anyways.
Or just ignore the shit out of it easily like im going to.
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Mortal Kombat X is selling "Easy Fatalities" for money [Also unlockable w/ Krypt]
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Or just ignore the shit out of it easily like im going to.
D1renegade
Member
Lol! This is good.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
It's stupid as fuck but it's not something that affects the game so while laughable, it's not a big deal.
You can only nickel and dime people if they want to be.
You can only nickel and dime people if they want to be.
FeenixRising
Banned
How is that pay 2 win though? It's a fatality, you already won!
The issue is game designers might artificially extend the grind time or difficulty to account for the microtransaction, similar to Forza or Diablo 3 RMAH.
literally not pay to win but okay
Naughty_Doge
Member
Wat
How is monetizing something that doesn't affect gameplay at all worse than preventing people from playing the full game they paid for?
J
Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
Unlocking navigators requires to beat Score Attack in Risky with said character, which is not near as easy as a regular Arcade Run but less insane than in P4A.
Omega Ultimus
Member
I'm almost certain this was put in as a joke.
How does this evolve to "pay2win"? These are optional, end-match flourishes.
HarryDemeanor
Member
You've never played or even seen a single video of MK gameplay I take it.
And at the moment it's just simplifying fatality inputs, if this is seen as acceptable, they'll continue to push the bounds of what is seen as being acceptable.
There was a huge controversy over people being able to hack all the DLC characters in SFxT to be playable as they were 100% complete on the game disc.
The Xtortionist
Member
The winner of the match is already decided before this even becomes relevant during gameplay.
Rain City Gamer
Member
Too good not to quote
Phat Michael
Banned
Exactly. it literally doesnt affect the game at all. Like, not one bit. It saves you 2-3 button presses and its not like the fatalities arent shown in the menu system.
There are two types of consumable in the game -
1) Easy Fatality (Trigger plus a button)
2) Skip Fight (just use it and it advances you forward if you are stuck)
Both are unlockable.
Both are plentiful.
You start the game with some already in your possession.
You earn them not just in the crypt, but in story mode and as faction rewards as well i believe.
They are REALLY easy to get, and you dont have to use them. They do not affect any one elses game play. You dont have to buy them, and there is no real benefit to buy them.
You literally have to win on your own before you can even use these things, and you don't have to pay for them, or even use them.
No, it most certainly isn't. These are just shortcuts for purely cosmetic actions that already aren't particularly difficult to execute. They are nowhere near comparable to stripping finished characters from a game for extra profit.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I'm never a huge fan of microtransactions, but this is minimally offensive to me. It doesn't offer an in-game advantage, so whatevs.
NRS did that, too! Goro's a finished character who's locked away on the disc and they stuck him right there on the character select screen with a big "BUY NOW" prompt. That bugs me way more than this goofy paytality thing.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
If they added in a new category of finishers called paytalities that were DLC I would be 100% on board with it.
Johny Cage shows up in a lambo, then beats the victim to death with stacks of hundred dollar bills.
Cassie Cage wins. PAYTALITY
*Cash register noises*
I still don't see why people DO have a problem with this.
Are these the same people that get mad when companies sell cosmetics? Why are they entitled to everything for free?
Locked characters? Extra strength? YES! Those are fights worth fighting!
But this? All this is, is a way to make an input that you do AFTER YOU WIN easier.
I think people would just get mad that they lost to someone who can't pull off a fatality on their own, which by the way are incredibly easy already.
The fear mongering is stupid. "Easy fatalities today! Humans marrying dogs tomorrow!"
LurkerPrime
Member
Every time a developer can choose between "fun" or "profit" and decides on the latter is a dark day for video games. Don't just sit down and take this, konsumers.
Does it say anywhere on the store page that they can be earned in-game?
But yeah, I guess it isn't a scam... it's just scummy as hell.
Bethesda were truly visionaries.
Does it say anywhere on the store page that they can be earned in-game?
But yeah, I guess it isn't a scam... it's just scummy as hell.
Bethesda were truly visionaries.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
This is a big accusation here. Do you have information on how long it would take to complete every thing in MK?
Omega Ultimus
Member
I actually meant how this is comparable to withholding on-disc characters that players paid for.
eh, he's preorder incentive just like costumes and whatnot. He costs $0 if you buy the game at launch which was the whole point. if you care about the character, you didn't pay for him.
You don't know what this word means
Exactly. Stripping Goro from the game as a pre-order incentive (and extra profit after release) is awful and is the real type of DLC we need to be condemning.
That doesn't logically follow for anyone who doesn't have a tinfoil hat on.
Gunslinger
Member
If this was capcom right now how fast you think the Angry Joe rant video would come out?
This is incredibly icky.
I get that "Easy fatalities" are available to get in-game and that this is just a way for people to skip the playtime if they don't have time themselves.
But it's just so incredibly icky.
This literally costs them nothing, it's practically key-rebinding. This could easily be a toggle-able option in a menu, if it's not already something that's just a simple boolean in the code. If anything it probably cost them more to implement this via microtransaction.
There was a time when this shit was just a cheat code away. Hell, they could have even advertised this as a feature for disabled players, that'd be a hell of a PR move in today's climate.
I don't get how people can see this as anything other than sticky, icky bullshit that really shouldn't set a precedent.
I get that "Easy fatalities" are available to get in-game and that this is just a way for people to skip the playtime if they don't have time themselves.
But it's just so incredibly icky.
This literally costs them nothing, it's practically key-rebinding. This could easily be a toggle-able option in a menu, if it's not already something that's just a simple boolean in the code. If anything it probably cost them more to implement this via microtransaction.
There was a time when this shit was just a cheat code away. Hell, they could have even advertised this as a feature for disabled players, that'd be a hell of a PR move in today's climate.
I don't get how people can see this as anything other than sticky, icky bullshit that really shouldn't set a precedent.
Tbh. Didn't pre-order and won't be buying Goro.
It is insulting that a company has decided this is something they can get away with selling. That someone in a board room has sold the idea that this is something that consumers will actually buy.
It's insulting to anyone who plays games, because the people behind this have such a low perception of us, that they believe this is something we'll buy.
That's my main problem with this. That, and the horrific idea that if it actually does sell enough, we'll see more of it.
It's insulting to anyone who plays games, because the people behind this have such a low perception of us, that they believe this is something we'll buy.
That's my main problem with this. That, and the horrific idea that if it actually does sell enough, we'll see more of it.
Yeah there's nothing wrong or scandalous about this.
17 Seconds
Banned
I haven't played a MK game in forever, but the reason fatalities were always fun was because it felt like you accomplished something by nailing the buttons in one shot. Now you can do it with money. Just because you aren't forced to buy it doesn't mean it can't mentally affect your enjoyment. I coudl definitely see stuff like this ruining the fun when playing with friends.
Again, this is a small example of an increasingly problematic trend. This time it's "only" something cosmetic, but more and more games are pushing the line. Take COD:AW, for example. They sell the "Supply Drops" which can give you significantly better weapons. Oh, but you can earn these (at a super slow rate) without paying, so it's okay! No. it's not. It's taking advantage of people's addictive personalities , and giving an unfair advantage to those people who can't help themselves. Instead of just getting good at the game and seeing the rewards, you have to spend more money.
DownGrader
Member
Reminds me of touch-screen shortcuts for combos in Wii U and 3DS Tekken games... except they were at least free.
let's be real if you knew your opponent just spent $$ to perform a fatality wouldn't you feel better about it and not worse
Seijuro
Member
Microtransactions/DLC in general are a big problem, though, as someone in this thread before said, stuff like Goro is the real problem, but I don't understand the outrage about this...
EASY fatalities (for which you just press R2 & square I believe) shouldn't be the normal way to end the match and should be finite you can always use the
NORMAL fatality combination (like in every MK before).
EASY fatalities (for which you just press R2 & square I believe) shouldn't be the normal way to end the match and should be finite you can always use the
NORMAL fatality combination (like in every MK before).
People will buy this and there's nothing wrong with that. So what if they perform a fatality on you? You already lost the match.
Navigators and announcers are apparently two different things. What that DLC pack includes is usually only unlocked by beating score attack mode on the hardest difficulty with that specific character, though the Nanako one requires beating it with two different characters.
Of course, a lot of those Navs carried over from the first game, which also had them as DLC but were even harder to unlock naturally.
Ultimately there's DLC that saves time for the player, which I can somewhat understand I guess, and there's ones like this, which save time but not to the tune of like dozens of hours. Plus, consumable vs. not.
Knowing FROM, they will only sell a difficulty increaser.