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P.T. was great, but it was free.

Would a $60 product in the same vein have been even remotely popular? Nope. I'm not really even sure if I would have enjoyed the P.T. experience if it was multiplied 20 times its size and bloated up to 15-20 hour game.

It left a great impression precisely because it had a novel concept and did not overstay its welcome. Plenty of other indie-horror games on the PC have benefitted from similar circumstances (novelty, low-cost, short-length).

The fact that Konami was touting celebrity-involvement and big production budgets makes me think the final product would have been far more boring, commercial, and conventional. You don't start casting big name actors if you're planning on going against the grain and generating something for the small niche of horror enthusiasts and fans of obtuse impossible puzzles. Part of what made the stupid obtuse puzzles fun was that we were all suffering through them and collaborating to solve the mystery. We were also laser focused on a few short sections of the game. Once the game became an expensive product you have to pay for, that sense of community involvement would disappear. The community would be 10 times smaller, and everyone would be focused on different puzzles since we would all be at different places in the game.

 

[Hibiki Kurosawa]

Well, I've had mine downloaded for some time. It really is tremendous. If this marks a sign of the end of Silent Hills, at least we got P.T. out of it. Still a shame.

 

[ForsakenLotus]

Proud to say I watched the press conference and played PT that night. Was a special week. I honestly wish PT could just remain on the store, but business is business.

 

[Bowl0l]

I will download P.T. today.. Thanks for the warning.

 

[MattyG]

 

[Sephiroth_GR_]

"Dad was such a drag...

Every day he’d eat the same kind of food, dress the same, sit in front of the same kind of games..

Yeah, he was just that kind of guy.

But then one day, he goes and kills us all!

He couldn’t even be original about the way he did it...

I’m not complaining... I was dying of boredom anyway

But guess what? I WILL be coming back, and I’m bringing my new toys with me."

-Hideo Kojima on leaving Konami

lol nice!

 

[BRocknRolla]

This is one of the scariest things I've ever played. Made me tense in the dark for a solid week after playing it. It's a shame this project probably won't amount to more than this, but I'm glad we at least got something from it.

 

[Nuke Soda]

That sad !

Pretty much what I look like at the mention of Silent Hills anymore.

 

[Fantastical]

I never got to play it.

 

[Pathfinder]

Such a shame...

If you have a PS4, download it now.

It's worth way more than most $60 AAA titles on the market today. It's an unforgettable experience that will haunt you long after you're done with it.

 

[Javin98]

Saw this thread and immediately made a PSN account to keep this game in my download list. Hopefully I'll still be able to play it when I have a PS4.

 

[Sami+]

Best game of 2014. Fuck Konami.

 

[ZombieVito]

Knowing my luck the game will be removed from my download list.

Go to fucking hell Konami.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

Did we ever find out how to complete PT without

Spoiler

a microphone?

I spent all night one night playing PT blind with my girlfriend, never looking up any of the puzzles or sequences. We wasted hours in the final sequence only to find the game was not only uncompletable, but at the time nobody was sure how to even trigger

Spoiler

all three baby laughs. We could trigger one baby laugh by two distinct means. One by walking slowly down the hallway and one by looking at the radio. But we could never get a second laugh to occur. All information at that point was people scratching their heads saying to say "Jareth" into your microphone.

Last I knew, nobody knew how to complete the game on purpose. This has bugged us ever since.

 

[D1renegade]

I was too afraid to finish this.

 

[MattyG]

Did we ever find out how to complete PT without

Spoiler

a microphone?

I spent all night one night playing PT blind with my girlfriend, never looking up any of the puzzles or sequences. We wasted hours in the final sequence only to find the game was not only uncompletable, but at the time nobody was sure how to even trigger

Spoiler

all three baby laughs. We could trigger one baby laugh by two distinct means. One by walking slowly down the hallway and one by looking at the radio. But we could never get a second laugh to occur. All information at that point was people scratching their heads saying to say "Jareth" into your microphone.

Last I knew, nobody knew how to complete the game on purpose. This has bugged us ever since.

This is what worked for me, first try:

Spoiler

1.) Wait for the clock to strike midnight. After the haunting ends, walk 10 steps to trigger the first laugh.

2.) Wait for another haunting to start. Near the end of the haunting, after Lisa stops crying, but before the haunting is over, whisper "Jarith" into the microphone. It will take 5-10 seconds for the voice recognition of P.T. to register that you whispered it correctly. This should trigger the second laugh. If not, wait for another haunting and try again. (Note: The Grate Debate was able to get this to work 30 times in a row)

3.) After the 2nd laugh the controller should start to vibrate shortly. When it does, stand perfectly still, and continue to stand still until you hear the third and final baby laugh. Soon afterwards, the phone will begin to ring. Zoom in on the phone until you hear "You've been chosen". Then leave by exiting the hallway as normal to trigger the ending teaser.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

I literally hugged the walls as much as possible trying to avoid it and pressed the pause button constantly every-time I felt I saw or heard something that would make me say "NOPE!".

This game scared my silly. PT is hands down the most oppressive nerve raking uneasy gaming experience I ever had. I tried to play it again alone, and found I didn't have the guts to do it. Last time I played and completed it was with a friend.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

This is what worked for me, first try:

But how did you trigger the second laugh, is what I'm asking? The

Spoiler

microphone

method? That's the one everyone, including myself, gets stuck on. Getting the third laugh afterward is basically automatic.

Edit: Saw you edit. I just hate that you need an

Spoiler

external tool to actually complete the game.

So much wasted time.

 

[Coxy]

"development halted due to inexplicable bug"

 

[Mexican Sting]

Damn, not planning on getting a PS4 for a while, thanks for the heads up, guys. Added to my DL list!

 

[Patchy]

P.T. was great, but it was free.

Would a $60 product in the same vein have been even remotely popular? Nope. I'm not really even sure if I would have enjoyed the P.T. experience if it was multiplied 20 times its size and bloated up to 15-20 hour game.

It left a great impression precisely because it had a novel concept and did not overstay its welcome. Plenty of other indie-horror games on the PC have benefitted from similar circumstances (novelty, low-cost, short-length).

The fact that Konami was touting celebrity-involvement and big production budgets makes me think the final product would have been far more boring, commercial, and conventional. You don't start casting big name actors if you're planning on going against the grain and generating something for the small niche of horror enthusiasts and fans of obtuse impossible puzzles. Part of what made the stupid obtuse puzzles fun was that we were all suffering through them and collaborating to solve the mystery. We were also laser focused on a few short sections of the game. Once the game became an expensive product you have to pay for, that sense of community involvement would disappear. The community would be 10 times smaller, and everyone would be focused on different puzzles since we would all be at different places in the game.

What?

 

[normalmode]

Has there ever been a PSN game that was not re-downloadable after it was delisted?

 

[jayu26]

Has there ever been a PSN game that was not re-downloadable after it was delisted?

I think that has happened to some demos. Since this is categorized as a demo...

 

[Morrigan Stark]

It was great, but I never saw the credits or "finished" it. I was stuck in the final loop I think.

The things people posted in spoiler tags

Spoiler

like saying a name in the microphone

baffle me. How are you supposed to know that?

 

[Tizoc]

Hmm gotta make sure I got ti from both EU and US PSN, thanks for the heads up.

 

[MattyG]

The things people posted in spoiler tags

Spoiler

like saying a name in the microphone

baffle me. How are you supposed to know that?

It's pretty crazy, and too hard to explain. Just watch this.

There's also a follow up that revises some of these theories.

 

[Machinehead]

I've tried the

Spoiler

whispering Jarith as soon as Lisa stops saying anything

for half an hour to no success.
Next time I fire it up, I'll try the method of

Spoiler

staying close enough so she comes after you, but keeping enough distance not to get caught

. I hope it works.

 

[InfiniteNine]

Well I didn't

Spoiler

say a name

but I did sing Snake Eater into the mic while playing.

 

[Shadow_Lord]

"Dad was such a drag...

Every day he’d eat the same kind of food, dress the same, sit in front of the same kind of games..

Yeah, he was just that kind of guy.

But then one day, he goes and kills us all!

He couldn’t even be original about the way he did it...

I’m not complaining... I was dying of boredom anyway

But guess what? I WILL be coming back, and I’m bringing my new toys with me."

-Hideo Kojima on leaving Konami

 

[Chakan]

Konami is killing both Metal Gear AND Silent Hill at the same time. I can't even tell how pissed I am atm.

 

[ProvenDeadly]

So if I just download and delete it, I see it in my library. Even when it's not available in the store, as long as it is in my library, I can download it?

 

[Chakan]

So if I just download and delete it, I see it in my library. Even when it's not available in the store, as long as it is in my library, I can download it?

As long as the file is still on the servers, yes.

 

[Blues1990]

I don't understand Konami's logic. Do they realize how badly they are pissing off people right now?

News Flash: They don't give a damn.

 

[JigglesBunny]

I won't be able to finish the Demo again now without crying.

Thanks Konami. I hope you enjoy crushing dreams.

 

[faridmon]

I am sure its part of the plan for Konami to focus on Contra 5, Gradius ultimate Castlevania: Losrd of Shadows 3, Suikoden 6, Yu-Gi-Oh (1 for 3ds, 1, for Vita and one for digital services) and Rocket Knight collection, before they can fun the next Silent Hill.

 

[Bam]

P.T. was by far one of the best horror experiences I've had in recent years and finding out that it was a teaser for a new Silent Hill got me so damn excited.

Shit, hearing all the new stuff about Kojima not being with Konami anymore has seriously crushed all hope whatsoever. Do we even know if the game is still in development or what?

 

[Chalupa Batman]

Has there ever been a PSN game that was not re-downloadable after it was delisted?

The Midnight Show DLC for The Saboteur was completely removed. That's the only instance I've ever heard of.

 

[Sagroth]

I remember downloading PT literally minutes after the conference it was announced at wrapped up. I played it that very day, and while I got stuck on the last part(as everyone did), I found it an amazing and intense experience. When I found out the next day what it really was, I was beside myself with hype. I was ready to forgive Konami for all the past failures and mistakes. This was everything I could have ever hoped for.

With this though, they are finally dead to me. With Silent Hills dead, they have nothing left to offer me. At least PT was one hell of a swan song.

 

[akidnamededdy]

News Flash: They don't give a damn.

This is the worst part.

They are sitting on top of a pile of brilliant IP (Silent Hill, Metal Gear, Castlevania, on and on and on) and they are apparently making enough doing casino games or whatever the fuck that they could not give less of a shit about it. Just letting it all wither away.

 

[Shining Sunshine]

Holy crap. They are bent on destroying Kojima's legacy or something.

 

[Ants]

oh my god dude this is the funniest shit in the universe

this thread keeps on giving

 

[Blues1990]

This is the worst part.

They are sitting on top of a pile of brilliant IP (Silent Hill, Metal Gear, Castlevania, on and on and on) and they are apparently making enough doing casino games or whatever the fuck that they could not give less of a shit about it. Just letting it all wither away.

If you ask me, it's their loss. There will be someone that can easily fill the void that Konami have left behind. At the very least, we can revisit their past efforts at any given time. (Speaking of which, I'm going to play Contra: Shattered Soldier.)

 

[Seth Balmore]

If Konami are indeed canning Silent Hills, I hope they have the decency to make a statement about it. Stuff like taking down the demo out of the blue like that smells of "people will forget about this eventually, right?"

 

[Hoho for breakfast]

PT was absolutely brilliant. The game, the announcement and everything about it. I really hope there's still a future for SH.

 

[EatinOlives]

So let me see if I can remember this correctly,

PT was a demo based on an upcoming SH game directed by Kojima and built on the Fox engine? So now that Kojima is out there's next to no chance that the game'll actually get made?

 

[matrixman92]

kojima and del toro should still make a horror game that just isnt called silent hill

 

[Ants]

So let me see if I can remember this correctly,

PT was a demo based on an upcoming SH game directed by Kojima and built on the Fox engine? So now that Kojima is out there's next to no chance that the game'll actually get made?

P.T.'s removal has nothing to do with Kojima's removal from Konami. It was scheduled at the time the demo first launched.

Konami can do whatever they please with Silent Hills, and will likely at least salvage what work was done somehow. While it assuredly won't be the game it once would have, there's nothing stopping them from making it. Kojima doesn't own the engine Konami created.

 

[EatinOlives]

P.T.'s removal has nothing to do with Kojima's removal from Konami. It was scheduled at the time the demo first launched.

Konami can do whatever they please with Silent Hills, and will likely at least salvage what work was done somehow. While it assuredly won't be the game it once would have, there's nothing stopping them from making it. Kojima doesn't own the engine Konami created.

Wasn't Kojima supposed to have directed the full game or was that a rumor?

I mean I'm asking since it seems like many contribute Kojima's departure with the unlikelihood that a full game with this engine will ever come out. Was Kojima's involvement integral to the demo/game?

 

[Big Chungus]

is that some sort of spoiler for sh2?

was thinking of playing it soon

 

[ramoisdead]

I better download this soon then.